Russian figure skating news in 2023

[caseyedwards]

I, too, admire abuse, doping, limping crossovers, godawful choreography, homophobia, and body-shaming.

Well it’s all part of figure skating unfortunately

 

[TAHbKA]

It seems totally political. Ok, Tutberidze - can understand, the gold/silver of the last 2 Olympics is hers. Why TAT all of the sudden? Why not in 1998? Why not in 2002? And if TAT or Tutuberidze for the Olys' medals - why not Moskvina? And if Gleikhengauze - why not Dudakov?
Zhulin - I mean as an ex husband of the current wife of putin's spokesman he of course deserves an order of distinction.

 

[caseyedwards]

It seems totally political. Ok, Tutberidze - can understand, the gold/silver of the last 2 Olympics is hers. Why TAT all of the sudden? Why not in 1998? Why not in 2002? And if TAT or Tutuberidze for the Olys' medals - why not Moskvina? And if Gleikhengauze - why not Dudakov?
Zhulin - I mean as an ex husband of the current wife of putin's spokesman he of course deserves an order of distinction.

Maybe because she’s getting on in years and how much longer really is left but it seems like she’s going to live forever

 

[barbarafan]

Bagin retired.

Tutberidze, TAT, Gleikhengauze and Zhulin received and order of distinction ( the article says ‘from Putin’) was presented by the minister of sports.

They are distinct all right

 

[Vagabond]

Why TAT all of the sudden? Why not in 1998? Why not in 2002?

Tarasova was living in the United States at the time.

 

[Dobre]

Thou shalt not compare scores from different dance competitions.

Particularly not when a. next to none of the same athletes are competing and b. we don't yet know how scoring will run for a new season with new requirements.

I mean a virtual tie with the Browns in the RD and eleven points over an FD by the Browns that included a fall on the footwork tells us not much. It was important for all the teams that went to Lake Placid to get out there. Davis & Smolkin needed to attend because they've been out a season and really need to be ready for the Challenger series. The CS and senior Bs may be all they have before Europeans & if they want even a chance of changing that, they have to try to win an early CS. Hence, they've got to be ready before the CS.

If we see D&S go up head-to-head against Taschlerova & Taschler, Turkkila & Versuis, Lopareva & Brissaud, Carreira & Ponomarenko, Reed & Ambrulevicious, Green & Parsons, or Lajoie & Lagha that will tell us something.

That score at LPIDI would have beat CarPon for 10th in Saitama. Another 2 points would have beat TurkVer and 5.5 would have had them ahead of the Taschlers.

All teams that were behind Davis & Smolkin during their last season. If D&S drop behind any of them, it may well mean no top 10. Smart & Dieck, I'm guessing, are likely to have a learning season. But Canada has a 3rd berth and Lajoie & Lagha + Hawayek & Baker could well push down the teams in the top ten a couple spots. (And that's not counting Stepanova & Bukin if the ban gets lifted). That would make the Taschlers and/or Turkkila & Versluis the bellweather teams for the top 10. I'd hypothesize you've got to defeat both.

 

[Karen-W]

Davis & Smolkin needed to attend because they've been out a season and really need to be ready for the Challenger series. The CS and senior Bs may be all they have before Europeans & if they want even a chance of changing that, they have to try to win an early CS. Hence, they've got to be ready before the CS.

If we see D&S go up head-to-head against Taschlerova & Taschler, Turkkila & Versuis, Lopareva & Brissaud, Carreira & Ponomarenko, Reed & Ambrulevicious, Green & Parsons, or Lajoie & Lagha that will tell us something.

I'm not sure winning an early CS is all that likely... GuiFab have already announced they're starting their season at Lombardia and surely at least one or two of GilPoir, FBSoer or LajLag will debut at Autumn Classic. Chances are good that a couple more top 5-6 teams will choose Nebelhorn for their debut and we can expect TurkVer (and probably at least a couple top IAM teams) at Finlandia. Nepela Trophy might be the best shot for DavSmo to win an early CS. I think the chances of winning somewhere like Warsaw Cup again are much higher and any of the pre-GP CS events.

 

[TAHbKA]

Buynova's husband died

 

[Dobre]

I'm going to put my Davis & Smolkin response in the OES thread because they aren't representing Russia anymore.

 

[Karen-W]

I'm going to put my Davis & Smolkin response in the OES thread because they aren't representing Russia anymore.

OES not the new Georgian News thread?

 

[Dobre]

I wasn't aware there was a Georgian News thread. Feel free to copy & move the conversation again if you'd like.

 

[Karen-W]

Kostornaia & Kunitsa got married -

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[TAHbKA]

An interview with Khudaberdieva - she says she had bullemia from the age of 12 till last year. Among other things...
Last year before the nationals she had a flu, then a food poisoning and they were one on top of the other.

 

[On My Own]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696464255380275705

?!

(It's a long thread)

 

[Rukia]

This is very disturbing. I hope she is safe.

 

[Fairuza]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696464255380275705

?!

(It's a long thread)

She has been spotted on a CCTV, but she hasn’t been found yet.

 

[On My Own]

This is very disturbing. I hope she is safe.

Especially this part:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696508591618875616

She has been spotted on a CCTV, but she hasn’t been found yet.

It's in the thread far down - I'm happy she seems safe, and hope she can be brought home safely (hopefully not to coach, but home).

 

[Fairuza]

They’ve just found her in a cinema. She’s ok, nothing untoward has happened to her.

 

[Wyliefan]

Thank God.

Now is it too much to hope there will be some kind of investigation into the way her coach treats her?

 

[Fairuza]

Thank God.

Now is it too much to hope there will be some kind of investigation into the way her coach treats her?

That’s very unlikely. But I do hope she gets some professional help from psychologists.

 

[Wyliefan]

That’s very unlikely.

I know. It was wishful thinking.

 

[Karen-W]

It's absolutely tragic and awful that Russian society and culture is such that no investigation of her coach or her living situation is likely to ensue after this incident.

 

[karmena]

Could I ask what has happened, to whom? I cannot read on Twitter/X

 

[Wyliefan]

Alina Gorbacheva, the Russian national junior champion, went missing. It was said that she ran off after a fight with her coach. But she's been found safe.

 

[Fairuza]

Could I ask what has happened, to whom? I cannot read on Twitter/X

Alina Gorbacheva, the junior champion went missing for well over 24 hours. They only managed to find her with the help of the police and volunteer groups.

 

[Fairuza]

And we are back to where we were before: Alina’s running away has nothing to do with the figure skating, she just wanted to walk around the city. She is back with her beloved coach.

 

[On My Own]

How many would even believe that though?

Alina Gorbacheva RUS on Instagram: "Прошу прощения, что заставила всех нервничать и переживать за меня. Сейчас все в порядке, я дома с любимым тренером и мамой. Не волнуйтесь, мой поступок никак не связан с фигурным катанием и с Софьей Анатольевной,

4,997 likes, 536 comments - alinochka_gorbachevaAugust 30, 2023 on : "Прошу прощения, что заставила всех нервничать и переживать за меня. Сейчас ..."

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Literally looks like she's at the "blink twice if you need help" stage. (ETA: the post, via google translate, seems to have a sentence saying "don't believe the media and bloggers", so yeah, probably not written by Gorbacheva herself)

Also...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696552176477487184

Can someone just snatch his VPN away?

 

[On My Own]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696667140156281186

But don't assign any responsibility to the dopers though...

 

[Frau Muller]

How many would even believe that though?

Alina Gorbacheva RUS on Instagram: "Прошу прощения, что заставила всех нервничать и переживать за меня. Сейчас все в порядке, я дома с любимым тренером и мамой. Не волнуйтесь, мой поступок никак не связан с фигурным катанием и с Софьей Анатольевной,

4,997 likes, 536 comments - alinochka_gorbachevaAugust 30, 2023 on : "Прошу прощения, что заставила всех нервничать и переживать за меня. Сейчас ..."

www.instagram.com

Literally looks like she's at the "blink twice if you need help" stage. (ETA: the post, via google translate, seems to have a sentence saying "don't believe the media and bloggers", so yeah, probably not written by Gorbacheva herself)

Also...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696552176477487184

Can someone just snatch his VPN away?

What’s the big deal with Yagudin…because she craved a pastry? Наслаждайтесь своим тортом!

 

[Spikefan]

It’s all so toxic.