Royalty Thread #7: Do They Get Frequent Flier Miles?

[PDilemma]

Heresy, I know:

I preferred the Duchess of Sussex' attire today, (more appropriate to a sporting event) to that of the Duchess of Cambridge. I'm aware that the DoC is expected to dress more formally/conservatively at these functions.

I admire Meghan for attempting to find a style of her own, within the strictures and requirements of her new position, even if some don't approve.
She has done well, thus far; and will grow more comfortable with her role/choices, over time.

I think at nearly 37 one has had enough time to learn that your pants shouldn't drag on the ground.

 

[MsZem]

I was looking at the coverage of the Wimbledon outfits for a glimpse of the offending trousers, and from this I learned that Emma Watson was taking style tips from both Meghan and Gareth Southgate

 

[skatesindreams]

I think at nearly 37 one has had enough time to learn that your pants shouldn't drag on the ground.

Should we "bow" to your perfection?
Have you ever worn bell-bottom trousers?

 

[Vagabond]

I think at nearly 37 one has had enough time to learn that your pants shouldn't drag on the ground.

You aren't her half-sister by any chance, are you?

 

[MacMadame]

I think at nearly 37 one has had enough time to learn that your pants shouldn't drag on the ground.

-There are no shoulds in fashion.

-That's the style these days. They are wide and they just slightly brush the ground or are just above it.

-They weren't actually dragging on the ground in the pix I saw. There was one where she scrunched down to chat with a child where they looked draggy but she wasn't walking in them.

-If they do get dirty, she's a freaking Duchess and so can get another pair if her staff can't get any stains out.

Not to mention, I read 4 different articles about her going to Wimbledon and not one said her pants were too long. They all said things like "Meghan & Kate Stun in Chic Wimbledon Looks".

Conclusion: her pants aren't actually too long; it's just you being negative about Markle.

 

[aftershocks]

It can't be too surprising that in a thread about royalty, people will be knowledgeable about royalty... I'm not sure why it's so challenging and time-consuming to type a correct title than an incorrect one; it's not like this is what will make a post too long. But to each their own.

To each their own, indeed! As I've always said myself on a number of occasions.

I think there are many more royalty experts on another forum that's specificially dedicated to discussing royalty around the world, than there are here on FSU. As far as writing out long titles being a factor in making posts too long, that never entered my mind. Obviously, it's fine to be as correct and proper as possible on every occasion. On Internet forums, hmmm, good luck with that. As it is, there's all kinds of jargon and abbreviations used to reference ice dance and pairs partners. Yep, I know none of them are royal, except perhaps for Diva Aliona. In any case, I'll likely reference The Duchess of Sussex first, and then switch off to Meghan, Megs, Duchess Meghan, M&H, or whatevs. As far as Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge (or more appropriately HRH The Duchess of Cambridge), at least she's no longer being referred to by the tabloids as 'Waity Katie.' An awful moniker for a perfectly delightful lady who will one day become Queen Catherine. On Prince George's birth certificate, it was written out for mother: 'Catherine Elizabeth' followed by 'HRH the Duchess of Cambridge.' Her occupation: 'Princess of the United Kingdom.'

Speaking of the beautiful royal Duchesses, here's video of their fun day at Wimbledon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsGmE_KkVfk They both look elegant and at ease to my eyes
Some still photos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGpNnz11VM (Obviously this outing is not the first time either have appeared in public as royals without their husbands, as erroneously mentioned)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RudHjtk3hxo (More videos and still photos examining Kate's and Meghan's body language Interesting but speculative, and I think Meghan is not adopting Harry's persona at all )
Another clip stated that the Duchesses met with former women's champions at a luncheon before match play began.

Re the long Ralph Lauren pants, eh. I've seen Meghan wearing these type of long pants before, in Scotland earlier this year, and a similar pair of wide leg long white trousers at a pre-Harry event some years ago. It's a style and it works for some people. I have a pair of black pants that fall similarly, but they don't have quite as wide pant legs. Any type of pants and pants cuffs are gonna get dirty anyway, especially if they're white. As MacMadame said, Meghan don't have to worry in the least these days about washing and caring for her clothes. It's surely nice to be freed up from taking care of mundane tasks. She's got other more weighty matters and logistical planning to take up her time, in addition to spending quality private time with her new hubby.

Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, is the styling of the Dowager (i.e. setting aside the other titles for a moment and the whole will be king part,

Thanks. Then Wiki is way way wrong with their 'Meghan, Duchess of Sussex' compromise. Jeez, there should be a proper university course offered to study up on all this British royal protocol/ British royal titles nonsense.

The principalities of Monaco and Liechtenstein kept it simple, sweet for Princess Grace, and Princess Angela respectively.

 

[Lacey]

Maybe, just a very little maybe, Meghan's shirt/blouse was loose because she is...don't want to start a rumor here, but does the real press get in here...with child...and needs subtly looser clothes because it's early. What do you think?

So, missed if this had already been covered in this huge thread and it is a minor part of who they are and what they are called, but is it true that Kate is called Princess Catherine and/or also Duchess of Cambridge, but Meghan can only be a Duchess (of Sussex) and never a Princess of anything because she was not to the manor born? Wow, that might be the snobbiest thing I ever said. Sorry if I insulted anyone.

 

[Parsley Sage]

Kate is not Princess Catherine. Technically speaking she is Princess William as Meghan is Princess Harry/Henry.

Meghan was seen drinking wine or champagne in Ireland the past few days so I doubt that's why she's wearing loose clothing.

 

[attyfan]

As I understand it (from Dorothy Sayers books), a woman who marries into a title is known by title, husband's first name and it is only title, the woman's first name if she is born to it. So, Kate is Princess William because she married a royal, but wasn't born one; her daughter is Princess Charlotte, because she was born into royalty.

 

[aftershocks]

^^ The British make title designations more complicated than do some other European monarchies and principalities.

maybe, Meghan's shirt/blouse was loose because she is...don't want to start a rumor here, but does the real press get in here...with child...and needs subtly looser clothes because it's early. What do you think?

^^ I doubt it @Lacey. With all of the travel, public events, and humanitarian projects the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are going to be involved with in the coming months, I don't see them trying for a baby just yet. Surely they want some time to simply enjoy being married too, prior to bringing pregnancy and babies into the picture. Some have suggested that perhaps Meghan might have gotten some of her eggs frozen, just in case. Since the technology is available, that's a possibility.

... an embarrassment that we have to claim him.

I getcha. He's absolutely shameful. Especially the way he galumped around cluelessly, incapable of understanding simple courtesy and subtle direction to walk behind and on the other side of the Queen, instead of blocking her during the troop review gaffe.

BTW, I'll never 'claim' Trump as anything but a fool. I abhore rather than 'claim.' And we all unfortunately must endure his travesty presidency.

I saw a clip the other day which pointed out some of the other U.S. presidential gaffes during visits to England, including President Obama giving a tribute to the Queen during a state dinner. When the British national anthem began playing, he kept talking. I'm not certain why the music began playing before he finished, or whether he was supposed to have waited to give the tribute after the music started and ended. Another strange gaffe is when President Carter reportedly kissed the Queen Mother on the lips. That sounds more like something Trump would do. Maybe Carter simply missed the air kiss as she was turning her head, and their lips touched.

The Kennedys were said to have once greeted the Queen in the wrong way, or maybe I just saw that on Netflix's The Crown. Of course, Michelle Obama (who is very touchy feely and loves giving hugs to deserving people) once placed her arm around the Queen affectionately and supportively, not realizing that's simply not done. The Queen responded in kind, in order to downplay Mrs. Obama's heartfelt, yet inappropriate gesture. Nothing more was made of it by royal courtiers, but some in the press had a field day.

 

[RoseRed]

Will Kate's title change when William is first in line? I assume it will when he takes the throne.

 

[aftershocks]

^^ Of course, but that won't happen for awhile yet. There will be King Charles III and Queen Camilla first.

AFAIK, The Duchess of Cambridge will be known as Queen Catherine, when her husband ascends to the throne. She will be a Queen Consort, but I don't know if 'Her Majesty' will automatically precede her title as it does for the present reigning monarch.

ETA: Oh I see you mean once Charles becomes King, what titles will William and Catherine hold. The Duke of Cambridge will become The Prince of Wales, and Catherine will be known as The Princess of Wales, unless she decides not to use that designation, as was decided by and for Camilla, who uses The Duchess of Cornwall instead, in deference to Diana PofW.

 

[Parsley Sage]

William does not automatically becomes Prince of Wales. Charles has to make him Prince of Wales.
He does become Duke of Cornwall and Duke of Rothesay when Charles becomes King.

 

[Kruss]

Dumb question, but I assume that means William will then no longer be Duke of Cambridge?

<------- (Still learning the ways of British and royal titles...)

 

[MsZem]

None-British royal happenings:

Princess Victoria's birthday celebration in Sweden (bonus Princess Estelle here). Prince Oscar was thrilled to be there. Really, super-excited. Can't he just have a ball to kick around? It doesn't have to be flag colors!

The Dutch royal family's summer photocall. I believe the King may have been inspired by Voronov's red velvet pants.

Danish Crown Prince family & animals. Mary, of course, looks fabulous.

 

[ballettmaus]

^What is Victoria wearing? (And I don't mean the traditional Swedish garments )

 

[Lorac]

Dumb question, but I assume that means William will then no longer be Duke of Cambridge?

<------- (Still learning the ways of British and royal titles...)

Once Charles becomes King then William will gain the titles that go with being heir to the throne and still retain his current title - so he would become Duke of Cornwall, Rothesay and Cambridge - and will be known as Duke of Rothesay in Scotland and Duke of Cornwall elsewhere (as these two titles are senior to the dukedom of Cambridge). If he is then made Prince of Wales he will still hold the titles. When he becomes King the titles of Duke of Cornwall and Rothesay go to his eldest son - George - and the Dukedom of Cambridge merges with the crown - meaning that it won’t pass to his son, but become available to be re-granted to someone else, if he so chooses.

 

[MsZem]

^What is Victoria wearing? (And I don't mean the traditional Swedish garments )

The Daily Mail claims it's a Zadig and Voltaire dress (this one?). I would have put my money on it being recycled from Queen Silvia's wardrobe circa 1982.

 

[Kruss]

@Lorac, thank you!

 

[JJH]

So, Camilla loses the Duchess of Cornwall title when Charles becomes King and William becomes the Duke of Cornwall? What are her possible titles other than Queen?

 

[Parsley Sage]

So, Camilla loses the Duchess of Cornwall title when Charles becomes King and William becomes the Duke of Cornwall? What are her possible titles other than Queen?

When Charles and Camilla married, there was talk she would use the title "Princess Consort"

 

[Lorac]

So, Camilla loses the Duchess of Cornwall title when Charles becomes King and William becomes the Duke of Cornwall? What are her possible titles other than Queen?

At the time of their wedding in 2005 it was announced that when Charles ascends the throne Camilla would be known as HRH The Princess Consort instead of Queen Consort - that was done to appease all those who felt Camilla had no right to be Queen Consort. Of course who knows what may happen in the future as Camilla has increased in popularity - only time will tell.

 

[quartz]

The Daily Mail claims it's a Zadig and Voltaire dress (this one?). I would have put my money on it being recycled from Queen Silvia's wardrobe circa 1982.

I love this dress but I would not accessorize it like Victoria did. I’d be wearing tights, slouchy boots, big chunky jewellry, John Lennon style sunglasses, messy french braided hair, and a faded Levi’s jean jacket over top. This dress requires the full-on boho treatment.

 

[Winnipeg]

Her pants were too long, sorry.

Camilla more popular? Must have used a low baseline!

 

[cygnus]

So, Camilla loses the Duchess of Cornwall title when Charles becomes King and William becomes the Duke of Cornwall? What are her possible titles other than Queen?

She will be queen, whether or not she uses the title. Otherwise she could be "Princess Consort" or possibly Duchess of Lancaster (the monarch is automatically Duke of Lancaster).

 

[kittyjake5]

Meghan's father speaks to Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...-to-new-life-calls-royal-family-outdated.html

 

[AxelAnnie]

Princess Diana's Niece......GORGEOUS!

 

[MsZem]

I love this dress but I would not accessorize it like Victoria did. I’d be wearing tights, slouchy boots, big chunky jewellry, John Lennon style sunglasses, messy french braided hair, and a faded Levi’s jean jacket over top. This dress requires the full-on boho treatment.

Full-on-boho is probably not in Victoria's fashion range she should send the dress along to Tatiana Santo Domingo, who'd have a greater chance of getting it right.

 

[Lorac]

Pictures of the christening of Prince Louis have been released by the Palace:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44839803

Everyone looks very happy -and the kids are just adorable - Charlotte has such a cheeky grin

 

[Lorac]

Meghan's father speaks to Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...-to-new-life-calls-royal-family-outdated.html

Wow - bitter or what. I really don't get this guy - he seems hell bent on undermining Meghan at every turn which makes me wonder about all that occurred in the run up to the wedding and whether he was more aware of what he was doing than we have been lead to believe. I won't comment in full on the article - I'm sure there are others who will go into more detail on this - but I find it laughable when he seem to go on about the Royals not showing their knees and how outdated the dress code is. Well if he bothered to check pictures of other Royal ladies such as the Duchess of Cambridge he would see that showing the knees is totally allowed so his argument there just fails.

The Duchess of Sussex is still finding her feet in regards to her role. It isn't something she has had several years to get use to - like the Duchess of Cambridge - and regardless of what Harry and other members of the Royal Family told her it is something she had to experience for herself. She does look a little nervous in the larger family gatherings but that is to be expected and she will get more use to them over the years. However on the Irish trip she seemed more relaxed and on her trip with HM she looked relaxed so the 'pained' smile Thomas Markle claims he is seeing is something I'm not seeing.

Not sure what he aims to achieve from this interview but he really isn't helping himself or supporting Meghan who he claims to love!!