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Fixed that for ya!Can Boikova / Kozlovskii finally turn around their infamous "headcase" reputation away andprove their SC win wasn't flukeconsolidate their russian No.1 position so far this season ?
Fixed that for ya!Can Boikova / Kozlovskii finally turn around their infamous "headcase" reputation away andprove their SC win wasn't flukeconsolidate their russian No.1 position so far this season ?
Fixed that for ya!
I don't see B/K as being all that inconsistent, certainly not more than M/G. The former had some bad luck on the Grand Prix last season, which had as much to do with their assignments as anything else, but they beat M/G at Russian nationals, they won bronze at Europeans, and finished top six at Worlds. They were foot-perfect in their first Grand Prix, while M/G had problems.Boikova / Kozlovskii are inconsistent while Mishina / Gallaimov have had a stellar debut with being contenders also for NHK podium.
I don't see B/K as being all that inconsistent, certainly not more than M/G. The former had some bad luck on the Grand Prix last season, which had as much to do with their assignments as anything else, but they beat M/G at Russian nationals, they won bronze at Europeans, and finished top six at Worlds. They were foot-perfect in their first Grand Prix, while M/G had problems.
Er, no they didn't. B/K won SCI with 216.71, M/G got 207.58 in France, and most felt that B/K were underscored.yet M/G scored higher in their first GP even with Mishinas step outs
Er, no they didn't. B/K won SCI with 216.71, M/G got 207.58 in France, and most felt that B/K were underscored.
You are really, really setting yourself up for disappointment. You need to curb your fandom as you are really starting to annoy people. My suggestion for what it's worth: why don't you just wait till the end of the season to gush about what your favorites did because by then everybody will know exactly what that was. Which is all that counts. Because results are seldom what we hope they will be. There are simply too many variables.I'm comparing with B/K debut last season who were scoing in 180-190 range.
M/G already getting 200+ in their first season
So? If we're talking about who's more likely to be Russian #1 this season, B/K are in front right now. And in any direct head-to-head, B/K would reasonably expect the edge in components.I'm comparing with B/K debut last season who were scoing in 180-190 range.
M/G already getting 200+ in their first season
Headcase? When?The Question in CoR pairs ?
Can Boikova / Kozlovskii finally turn around their infamous "headcase" reputation away and prove their SC win wasn't fluke ?
WOW! what universe are you living in?I'm comparing with B/K debut last season who were scoing in 180-190 range.
M/G already getting 200+ in their first season
The Question in CoR pairs ?
Will Tarasova / Morozov continue to struggle and abandon their russian No.1 position to Mishina / Galliamov ?
Will Stolbova / Novosleov debut with a bang ?
Can Boikova / Kozlovskii finally turn around their infamous "headcase" reputation away and prove their SC win wasn't fluke ?
Boikova / Kozlovskii are inconsistent while Mishina / Gallaimov have had a stellar debut with being contenders also for NHK podium. B/K barely got 190 in GP last season and were non threats.
M/G have higher chance to be russian No.1 than B/K imo
a 2-3 points PCS difference in their first GP isnt big at all , M/G can make up technically as B/K are technically weaker.
I watched both Sui Han and M T M short programs: nothing similar in movement or mood whatsoever. Sui Han Nichol ‘channeling’ Savchenko? Sui Han Nichol ‘adopting’ poses of Manta Johnson? Nice try.
yet M/G scored higher in their first GP even with Mishinas step outs
I sooo agree! B&K have been nothing but strong and impressive.I have already answered your questions in the other post but I will do it again, to clarify.
If T&M lose their number one position in Russia, it will not be to M&G. B&K have been skating very well and they are likely to be the successors.
B&K were never Headcase, except in your mind. They have been very consistent since last season. Their SC win was no fluke at all, but you can continue to hate them if you wish. In fact M&G’s win could have been a fluke for the simple reason that they skated against a weak pairs field.
No, S&N are not likely to debut with a bang. They are not G&G. I expect several mistakes from them in their first international competition.
Um. Completely different music. Don’t know where you got your facts.
To be fair, M&G have no control over that. They can only beat whoever is there. They can’t control that both Zabijako/Enbert and James/Ciprés withdrew.M&G won in a weak field
B&K were never Headcase, except in your mind.
The relatively unusual thing this season is the prospect of there being five different gold medalist teams, if Tarasova/Morozov win Rostelecom. That's the scenario where two silver medals wouldn't be enough.
If T/M win in Russia and MT/M are 2nd at NHK (with M/G 3rd), then P/K would probably be out. They'd be tied on points with MT/M with 2 silvers each, but MT/M only need 194.66 to beat them on the score tiebreak. That's a perfectly plausible scenario.
For me, this opening move choreographed by Julie Marcotte for M-T/M is reminiscent of some moves in programs by Savchenko/Massot
https://youtu.be/22di5umzMbw?t=40 M-T/M sp Nebelhorn 2019
And there's a similar opening move here by Sui/Han. Not the same move, but it's similar:
https://youtu.be/edsXkkRu8Cc?t=38 Sui/Han sp opening CoC 2019
Plus Sui jumping up and straddling her legs around her partner's waist is very similar to moves we see in ice dance... of course famously taken to the sexy limit by V/M in Moulin Rouge
S/H's new sp is bluesy, yet somewhat similar in theme and even in costuming to M/T-M's last season's rock-themed Pink Floyd medley fp:
None of this means 'exact copying.' It means influences and inspirations, as well as spontaneous creativity by choreographers that might be similar to ideas and programs by other choreographers, or in some cases, directly influenced...
I'm comparing with B/K debut last season who were scoing in 180-190 range.
M/G already getting 200+ in their first season
How many pairs end their programs with a spin?
I'm not sure whether you are trying to downplay the importance of influences and inspirations that we are seeing in ice dance and pairs.
I contend that emulation or 'copying' is a positive thing which has always occurred and is a significant part of the growth of all figure skating disciplines, particularly today in pairs.
To be fair, M&G have no control over that. They can only beat whoever is there. They can’t control that both Zabijako/Enbert and James/Ciprés withdrew.
As someone who actually is a fan of Mishina/Galliamov, can we just agree to ignore this troll? I’m half convinced she’s trying to annoy everyone so much they root against them which is not what two hard working skaters deserve
This is definitely someone having fun at M&G's expense. It's quiet unfortunate.It is an Interesting observation that the troll is trying to turn other posters against M&G. That may very well be the case. I should just ignore ridiculous posts by this poster.
I like M&G too and I would like to see them develop over the next few years. I was not trying to belittle their win. They skated clean. They did their job. I just didn’t want to crown them Russia’s number one, yet.
I have to add that I love the skating of T&M (both T&Ms) and I never find them boring. Underperforming May be, because of their tremendous potential. I really liked Z&E last season. They (particularly Natalia) have lovely classical lines. They did try their style last season to separate themselves from others, but I like the pure pairs skating more.
It is interesting that a number of Russian teams are good technically, but don't project or connect well. For me the only Russians who were well-rounded technically and possessed interesting personalities on the ice are Gordeeva/ Grinkov, the Protopopovs (B/P), Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze, Rodnina with her partners, but she was the driving force especially in terms of fierce desire and athleticism, and Dmitriev with his partners, but his personality was the driving force which elevated both partnerships.
In addition, Max Trankov blossomed with Tat Volosozhar despite pairing too late in their careers to reach full creative potential. Stolbova/Klimov became a revelation when they tweaked themselves and got in shape for the 2014 Olympics. Prior to redefining themselves brilliantly in Sochi, Stol/Klim were a snore. I truly enjoyed Moskvina's work with Kavaguti/ Smirnov and with Bechke/Petrov. I liked Bazarova with Deputat* (though they never got off the ground apparently due to tech shortcomings), but she was such a bore with her first partner no matter how they were always held up around 6th place in the scoring at Worlds. Ashtakova/Rogonov were fun to watch, largely due to his charisma, but they too never reached their full potential as she apparently didn't want to skate anymore. *Deputat with Davankova in Juniors were a to-die-for pairing, but alas she grew too tall for him and they never made it to seniors together.
Sadly both T/Ms (Evgenia/Vlad & Totmianina/Marinin) are/were boring together, despite being so lovely and attractive, and technically skilled. Both could give fs pairs clinics. I just don't understand the lack of on-ice connection between both these teams. Ev/Vlad seem to project more in exhibitions, and in the beginning Tot/Mar seemed to have such a bright future. She was a bit quirky and seemingly shy, and he was more expansive with a beautiful smile. They were lovely to watch, but ultimately Zzzzzz. The fact they won OGM is a big so what, who cares in terms of pairs figure skating history.
In fact, Z/E remind me of Tot/Mar in the boring personality/ lack of connection respects, except maybe Tot/Mar were a bit more interesting and accomplished. In person, Z/E give off a sense of some lifeblood, and they are nice young people, and they try but IMO they are consistently overscored on PCS because of their long lines, tech abilities and Russian rep status. Some of the other 70s and 80s Russian teams to me are largely forgettable, although their names may still be familiar.