I dont think so. Japan is sooo deep and they have so many deserving skaters. So it makes sense to spread the wealth and their B team is still likely to content for medals.Really surprised that the Japan Fed is sending their B team singles skaters to 4CCs, and sending all the top singles skaters only to Worlds. I don’t think they did this in the past during non-Olympic years. I wonder what the rationale is …. Unfortunately, just feeds into devaluing the event as equivalent to Europeans.
Much less pressure for ladies as well as men? No need to stay on your feet constantly and build up your reputation with several contenders gone and half the remaining field injured.So what is different this year? The altitude in CS?
And less depths. The field is insane just now. Especially in ladies. The 4cc team could have been sent to Worlds, no questions asked.Much less pressure for ladies as well as men? No need to stay on your feet constantly and build up your reputation with several contenders gone and half the remaining field injured.
I don't think Uno will show up again though, he already has his 4CC gold.
"Maybe it's not what I say, but I don't really understand the selection criteria, but there are parts that don't make me happy. I want to do my best.
"It's not for me to say any more. If I say something strange based on my temporary feelings, I won't comment for now."
Yosuke Takeuchi, director of the strengthening department, who responded to the press interview after the press conference, explained in detail the reasons for the selection. When asked about Uno's remarks, he said, "I'm not sure exactly what part I'm dissatisfied with. I will post the selection criteria before the season starts, and after the All Japan Championships, while maintaining fairness in competitions within the year. In terms of words, there are some things that I don't understand specifically, but if I talk clearly, I think they will understand."
When asked if he would discuss it with Uno himself in the future, he said, "It's not that I won't accept it, but I would like to hear what you have to say."
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B) Top 2 ISU Grand Prix Final entrants [Mihara 1st, Watanabe 4th, Sakamoto 5th (corrected); Uno 1st, Yamamoto 2nd, Sato 4th, Miura 5th]
C) His/Her top 3 ISU season best scores at the end of the All Japan Championships
③ Comprehensively judging from those who satisfy any of the following, including the players selected in ①② above,
We will select until we reach 3 people.
A) ② is a player who falls under A) B) C) and was not selected for ②.
B) Top 3 ISU World Standings at the end of the All Japan Championships
C) Top 3 ISU Season World Rankings at the end of the All Japan Championships
D) At international competitions dispatched before the All Japan Championships and domestic competitions[*1] designated by the strengthening department
Season Best Total Element Score [*2] Top 3
1 | Shoma UNO | JPN | ISU Grand Prix Final 2022/23 | 10/12/2022 | 304.46 | S |
3 | Sota YAMAMOTO | JPN | ISU Grand Prix Final 2022/23 | 10/12/2022 | 274.35 | S |
4 | Kao MIURA | JPN | ISU GP Skate America 2022 | 22/10/2022 | 273.19 | S |
8 | Shun SATO | JPN | ISU GP Grand Prix Espoo 2022 | 26/11/2022 | 262.21 | S |
13 | Kazuki TOMONO | JPN | ISU GP NHK Trophy 2022 | 19/11/2022 | 251.83 | S |
15 | Koshiro SHIMADA | JPN | ISU GP MK John Wilson Trophy 2022 | 12/11/2022 | 247.17 | S |
16 | Tatsuya TSUBOI | JPN | ISU GP Grand Prix Espoo 2022 | 26/11/2022 | 244.90 | S |
1 | Mao SHIMADA | JPN | ISU JGP Solidarity Cup 2022 | 30/09/2022 | 217.68 | J |
2 | Kaori SAKAMOTO | JPN | ISU GP Skate America 2022 | 23/10/2022 | 217.61 | S |
3 | Mai MIHARA | JPN | ISU GP MK John Wilson Trophy 2022 | 13/11/2022 | 217.43 | S |
7 | Rinka WATANABE | JPN | ISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2022 | 17/09/2022 | 213.14 | S |
8 | Hana YOSHIDA | JPN | ISU JGP Egna-Neumarkt 2022 | 15/10/2022 | 208.31 | J |
9 | Ami NAKAI | JPN | ISU JGP Baltic Cup 2022 | 07/10/2022 | 205.90 | J |
10 | Mone CHIBA | JPN | ISU JGP Solidarity Cup 2022 | 30/09/2022 | 205.82 | J |
15 | Mana KAWABE | JPN | ISU GP Grand Prix Espoo 2022 | 26/11/2022 | 197.41 | S |
18 | Rion SUMIYOSHI | JPN | ISU GP Grand Prix de France 2022 | 05/11/2022 | 194.34 | S |
21 | Rika KIHIRA | JPN | ISU GP Grand Prix Espoo 2022 | 26/11/2022 | 192.43 | S |
World Figure Skating Championships representative Uno "There are some parts that I am not happy about" The federation "keeps fairness":
フィギュア世界選手権代表 宇野「うれしく思えない部分もある」 連盟は「公平性を保っている」 - スポニチ Sponichi Annex スポーツ
全競技終了後、来年3月の世界選手権(さいたまスーパーアリーナ)の代表が発表され、男子は全日本優勝で決定した宇野昌磨(トヨタ自動車)のほか、全日本5位ながら今季GPファイナル2位の山本草太(中京大)と全日本3位の友野一希(上野芝ク)に決まった。全日本2位の島田高志郎(木下グループ)は外れ、四大陸選手権の代表となった。www.sponichi.co.jp
Kawabe got the gifts last season...They could have let Mana have 4CCs. She's had a rough season, but she did win a GP medal, and she did beat Rinka here.
The Japanese men actually have more competition at the Junior level than senior; Memola and Broussard just beat them. Given Miura’s potential I understand the assignment.I think the only assignments that I question are:
1) Rinka Watanabe getting both Worlds and 4CCs - but, it's not as though Sumiyoshi or Kihira were appreciably better than her over the season or at Nationals. As inconsistent as Watanabe is, especially in the SP, I fully expect her to blow it either in Colorado Springs or Saitama and she's going to be lucky to get decent WS points from one of the events, but not both.
2) Kao Miura getting both Jr Worlds and 4CCs - I think a strong argument can be made to have sent Nakamura to Jr Worlds, but it seems like the JSF is really intent on getting three spots back for next year, so they're hedging their bets that Miura will help guarantee that. The Jr Worlds men's field is rather deep, but inconsistent as heck.
Oh, I don't disagree with the rationale for sending Miura to Jr Worlds. Between Memola, Broussard, Yampolsky, Nordeback, and at least one decent Korean man and another American man, it's a potential minefield to regain three spots, as well as locking up JGP allocations for next season.The Japanese men actually have more competition at the Junior level than senior; Memola and Broussard just beat them. Given Miura’s potential I understand the assignment.
I’d like to have seen Kihara get 4Cs because she was skating cleanly even at lower difficulty, but JSF has its plans.
I think it's fair to say that the Taschlers and KazRev are going to finish top 10/9 at Euros, so they'll certainly pass MuraTaka on the WS list. DemLeM - top 8 at Euros is probably the highest they'll finish and it's certainly possible, but not as certain as the other two finishing top 10/9 respectively.
- Dance: Muramoto/Takahashi are 15th on the WS list now, with two couples not skating (Sinitsina/Katsalapov and Papadakis/Cizeron), and barring very unusual circumstances, only three of the four US couples and two of the three Canadian couples who are/could be above them will be at Worlds, so that's the equivalent of 11th before Euros/4C's WRT starting groups at Worlds.
- If they didn't skate at 4C's,
- Taschlerova/Taschler would pass them with a Top 10 at Euros
- Harris/Chan would pass them with a Top 9 at 4C's
- Kazakova/Reviya would pass them with a Top 9 at Euros
- Demorgeot/LeMercier would pass them with a Top 8 at Euros
- Lim and Quan would need to win 4C's to pass them
- The current estimations for the Dance field at Worlds this year, based on @Karen-W 's and @Andrea82 's posts in the TES Minimums and Dance Hall threads is 30, unless some other teams get the TES minimums in time, so they'd have to be in the Top 15 after Euros and 4C's to skate in the later group, and if two teams drop out (and no more enter), Top 14.
- 11th would be cutting it close if they didn't skate at 4C's, where there are also cash and prizes. Plus, I'm guessing Zoueva wants them to get as much mileage as possible before Worlds.
Zhou definitely will not be competing this season - yes, he's announced that he's taking the season off; and Brown will not be at 4CCs since he's skating in Art on Ice the same week.
- Men:
- There's been a bit of back-and-forth about who is eligible and competing for the Men's field, but, so far, it's been 34 at best and 31 at worst (32 before Carillo announced his surgery). 33 or 34 would been 17 in the later half and 32 or 31 would mean 16 in the later half.
- With Kagiyama and Chen not skating, Tomono is the equivalent of 10th in WS before Euros/4C's. Since he won't be at 4C's,
- Two of three of Zhou (who I don't think is competing, but I don't know if it's official, so Top 19), Pulkinen (Top 18), and Brown (Top) could pass him at 4C's
- Aymoz and Britschi (tied) would pass him with a Top 5 at Euros
- If a Selevko's wasn't skating, Levandi could pass Sato with silver or gold at Euros.
- Yamamoto is more vulnerable; he effectively starts at 13th, after Kagiyama, Chen, and one of four Americans are removed:
- Aymoz and Britschi need Top 17 at Euros to pass him
- Sadovsky needs Top 6 at 4C's (assuming he's on either team)
- A. Selveko needs to win Euros/M. Selevko needs Top 5/Levandi needs Top 9 to pass Yamamoto
- Egadze would need Top 5 at Euros
Brezinova won't be at Euros - Czech fed already named Vrankova to the team and Brezinova just had some sort of minor knee surgery last week after Four Nationals.
- Women: Sakamoto can only be passed by Hendrickx at Euros.
- The Women's field at Worlds looks to be 30 at worst, but I'm not sure what the best is. It would mean 15 in the first half, if 30, 16 in the first half if 31 or 32.
- Mihara is 4th, but without Scherbakova, 3rd for Worlds starting order purposes.
- Yelim Kim and Haien Lee will pass her by finishing the competition
- Levito will need 11th or above to pass her with a Top 11
- Shizas or Thorngren would need to win 4C's
- Kurakova or Schott would need to win Euros
- Watanabe is 20th, but less four RUS women and Karen Chen, or 15th for the purposes of Worlds SP starting order. If she weren't skating at 4C's,
- Up to six of skaters could pass her with variations on winning to Top 6, the higher-ranked being Taljegard , Repond, Feigin, Serna, van Zundert and Brezinova with more down the list.
- There are 4C's skaters from countries where they wouldn't be replacing skaters aleady above her and beyond the maximum Worlds spots who could catch her at 4C's. They could be spoilers for points at 4C's.
She only can get WS points from one of those competitions anyway.As inconsistent as Watanabe is, especially in the SP, I fully expect her to blow it either in Colorado Springs or Saitama and she's going to be lucky to get decent WS points from one of the events, but not both.
None of the skaters have any championship points yet for this season, so incremental points aren't a factor, are they? They're all going to get the full points from Euros/4CCs and incremental points will only affect the WS of skaters who compete in both the continental championships and Worlds.ETA: I'd forgotten to calculate incremental championship points, so I made some changes:
Sumitada, who turns 21 in a few days, competed in the Senior men's event at last year's Nationals as well, finishing 13th (he has an ISU bio for singles though he has yet to compete in singles internationally): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00112054.htmJunior Sumitada Moriguchi was a surprise finisher in seventh at 241.63.
It was a beautiful quad loop (I remember thinking when watching live early this morning 'wow, what a gorgeous, effortless-looking 4Lo to start!').Uno skated to "Air on the G String" and began with a beautiful quad toe loop, ...
A bit premature but, yes, they're the favorites heading into Saitama.In the absence of world champions Riku Miura and Ryuichi Kihara, ...
Sorry - I worded my comment somewhat inelegantly. I know she can only get WS points from one of the ISU Championships. My educated guess is that she bombs one of them and she'll get minimal points from that event, so the other one, which she will probably do better at, will earn her the higher points and will be used for WS.I've just bumped up the latest ISU World Standings thread in case people want to continue the non-Japanese WS standings discussion there.
ETA:
She only can get WS points from one of those competitions anyway.
The Japanese skaters aren't skating in a vacuum, so what the non-Japanese skaters earn at Euros/4C's impacts the SP/RD start orders for Worlds.I've just bumped up the latest ISU World Standings thread in case people want to continue the non-Japanese WS standings discussion there.
ETA:
She only can get WS points from one of those competitions anyway.
If they have two slots already, 100% from 2022 and 70% from 2021, they can only earn incremental points in 2023: they drop the lower of the two and add the 2023 points from Euros/4C's, if higher than the lower of the two they already have.None of the skaters have any championship points yet for this season, so incremental points aren't a factor, are they? They're all going to get the full points from Euros/4CCs and incremental points will only affect the WS of skaters who compete in both the continental championships and Worlds.
I remember. But in this case I don't think it would be nearly as much of a gift. She did beat Rinka here. And sending her to 4CCs over Rinka would be a far cry from sending her to the Olympics over Mai.Kawabe got the gifts last season...
Uno is not someone who has ever shied away from competition. My guess is he would have quite liked the chance to win a second 4CCs crown. I think that title is one that he valued, because, as he himself noted in Anaheim in 2019, it was his biggest international outright victory until he won Worlds last year.