I thought about putting Hubert first - the program was so interesting and different, but the "creative" approaches to the spiral sequence and footwork were perhaps a bit too creative. I still thought she had the best presentation of the day.
Kwan was tight and seemed slightly off her music to me.
I love Slutskaya, but wow, was she gifted. She was just going through the motions.
No one had lurve for Jo Carter . She literally had one mistake - like most others. And her elements were very good.
I felt what she was trying to do, but I don't think it was effective at all. She moved as if she didn't know what she was doing. As 'creative' as those sequences were, there was hardly any real substance there. Plus the flip deserved a 0.3 if not a 0.4 deduction.
Axel landing was on the inside edge, loop landing didn't have a tremendous runout, flying spin was just okay, first part of combo spin was extremely weak, and the footwork was pretty much all one direction if not ALL one direction even if it was flashy.
Sorry, I just read this.What country would you like to represent?
UZB, SVK, GER, BLR, ITA, CAN, FRA, and HKG are filled on your panel.
I quite liked the program. If it had been in the final or penultimate group, it probably would have gotten higher marks.No one had lurve for Jo Carter .
Sorry, I just read this.
Hadn't thought about it... Chile, perhaps? (Seriously, I'm fine with anything. You can choose.)
FSU judges 1998 World Figure Skating Championships
Panel 1 results
I changed the composition of the panels slightly, based on order received. This way I could get the first panel compiled now. I will get the second panel's marks compiled tomorrow night, after the Monday night deadline.
1) Skater whom the FSU panel places most above where she finished
2) Skater whom the FSU panel places most below where she finished
3) Skater with the largest difference between highest and lowest ordinals, according to the FSU panel
4) Whether or not the FSU panel has at least one skater with a 13-placement ordinal spread, as the actual panel did
5) # / % of the final free skate group that would be the same, according to the FSU panel
6) Whether or not first place ordinals are unanimous from the FSU panel
7) Skater with the widest range of required elements marks from the FSU panel
8) Whether any skater has a range of at least 1.2 for required elements, which (I believe) was the widest range of the actual panel.
9) Whether the FSU panel's results would have caused any flip-flops
10) Whether the results of the FSU would be the same using TOM or OBO calculation methods .
Nope, one for Rechnio!
And now the next important question:
When will we do an IJS event? And which?
Sorry, this weekend went away from me, and I wasn’t able to finish, but I did give Joanne Carter a 3.8 in tech. I guess that was too low even compared to Louis’ metric, haha. I counted one point in deduction froM the BV in tech. I wrote these notes for her:
Bad carriage; 2/2 with flutz; easy steps to loop wild exit leg not too big; hunched back; not enough revolutions in combo spin first part; bad positions; spirals just ok not held but 3 positions; steps in one direction easy; great layback; weird 2a landing but done long set up; good flying camel.
That means if she had done the 3lutz2toe and landed the loop and axel better, and had one more rev on the combo spin, your starting / maximum technical merit mark for her would have been 4.8?
Were any of our judges as bullshit crazy as the HUN judge back in 98?
I also don’t know how anyone could give Kwan less than first place[....]
Poth's ordinals, 10th to 23rd. I think even my 17th place ordinal might have been generous.Everything was weak.
ITA's 3.4 for Derochie made me laugh out loud. But I'm curious, why so much lower than everyone else? I think she's a fairly solid skater.
I do wonder if Carter's lower placement might be a bit of IJS bias towards popping/doubling out: ie, it's better to rotate and fall than stand up and double. I remember liking her somewhere else but I don't think this program did her any favors at all.
I thought she was a clear first, but a narrow first. There were issues: flutz (really floop - I'd have called it 3Lze with a -3 in today's system), wonky double axel, poor layback....
*Hubert's solo jump was basically a full deduction, with few steps and a hand down; plus the step sequences were a bit "WTF" in a way that I can't decide was hysterically bad or hysterically good but didn't deserve full marks in either instance.
exceptionally weak layback and spiral sequence (no back stretch, no leg stretch, spirals couldn't hit an arabesque position and were held for half a second each).
Liashenko's flip also lacked steps and may have been two-footed.
I was surprised that the actual panel rated her as highly as it did. I thought she skated like a weak junior. Were they blinded by the triple-triple attempt?
I marked her in the "two serious errors" camp: the double flutz and no steps / long pause leading into the loop.
And also - what you said about Derochie below also apply to Hubert:
I suppose I am the odd one out for her anyways, and the burden should be for me to explain - but for the record I just feel quite bad that she was placed behind Poth, Fontana and Ruh who were clearly not on the same league.
I am willing to be of some help here:Good question. Anyone who would be interested in sharing some of the workload? Honestly, I would be happy to compile the results and judge, if someone could to facilitate: (a) which event to judge; (b) watch parties, etc.