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Are you sure you really don't eat only white chocolate?Maybe they moved on to bigger drugs. I only get high on Nutella.![]()
Are you sure you really don't eat only white chocolate?Maybe they moved on to bigger drugs. I only get high on Nutella.![]()
Yelim Kim at age 13 was facing up to a year suspension for missing a doping test. She was let off with a warning. She is on Twitter/Instagram condemning the decision for Valieva to continue competing.I understand why Richardson is aggrieved, but she's an adult and Valieva isn't.
Has there been an equivalent case with an athlete who is a protected person at this level of competition?
I'm not spouting. That`s my personal experience.
Because of this scandal I think Russian figure skaters will be more conscious about taking anything.Chelsea Liu has also posted on her IG - https://instagram.com/stories/chels...ce=ig_story_item_share&utm_medium=share_sheet
And the Russia-bots are already on the attack against Meagan Duhamel - https://instagram.com/stories/meaga...ce=ig_story_item_share&utm_medium=share_sheet
Filip Taschler & Lana Petranovic also shared Yuna Kim's IG post.
Okay, so you've shared it and shown yourself. Congratulations.I'm not spouting. That`s my personal experience.
IOC's response: https://olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-e...lowing-cas-decision-on-the-case-of-roc-skater
The IOC has to follow the rule of law and will therefore have to allow her to compete in the Women’s Single Skating competition on Tuesday, 15 February 2022 and, if qualified, on 17 February 2022.
The CAS has clearly expressed that the decision taken by the Ad-hoc Division today is not a decision on whether Ms Valieva violated the anti-doping rules. It was limited to the sole question of whether Ms Valieva could be provisionally suspended from the Olympic competition following a positive A-sample taken on 25 December 2021.
The management of the case after this positive A-sample has not yet been concluded. Only after due process has been followed can it be established whether Ms Valieva infringed the World Anti-Doping Code (WADC) and would have to be sanctioned.
This inconclusive situation led the IOC EB to the following decisions, after having had initial consultations with the National Olympic Committees (NOCs) concerned:
1. In the interest of fairness to all athletes and the NOCs concerned, it would not be appropriate to hold the medal ceremony for the figure skating team event during the Olympic Winter Games Beijing 2022 as it would include an athlete who on the one hand has a positive A-sample, but whose violation of the anti-doping rules has not yet been established on the other hand.
2. Should Ms Valieva finish amongst the top three competitors in the Women’s Single Skating competition, no flower ceremony and no medal ceremony will take place during the Olympic Winter Games Beijing 2022.
3. The IOC requests the International Skating Union (ISU), for reasons of fairness, to allow a 25th competitor to participate in the free skating part of the competition on 17 February, in case Ms Valieva is ranked in the first 24 of the short programme on 15 February.
4. The IOC will, in consultation with the athletes and NOCs concerned, organise dignified medal ceremonies once the case of Ms Valieva has been concluded.
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ETA link to ISU's initial response: https://www.isu.org/isu-news/news/1...re-skater-kamila-valieva-roc?templateParam=15
4 February 2022 Lausanne / Switzerland
Following the hearing of the Ad hoc Division of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in the arbitration procedures relating to Figure Skater Kamila Valieva (ROC), the International Skating Union (ISU) duly noted and will respect the ruling namely that the provisional suspension of Ms. Valieva remains lifted.
The ISU awaits to receive the award with grounds and needs time to assess before making any further comments.
ETA (2) that ISU's followup response has since been copied out in post #33 here: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...none-for-the-women.109428/page-2#post-6204855
You mean they'll be more conscious about taking anything that can be detected.Because of this scandal I think Russian figure skaters will be more conscious about taking anything.
IMO, the IOC cannot be blamed for a decision of the CAS. It is the CAS that is allowing a doping suspect to harm clean athletes....
How could IOC allow a doping suspect hold clean athletes hostage and impose irreparable harm to them?
This is hilarious. They're not even competing under the Russian flag, they're competing as ROC because they are banned because of Russia's state-run doping scandal. And you think this will make them more conscious about taking anything.Because of this scandal I think Russian figure skaters will be more conscious about taking anything.
"The Global Sport and Anti-Doping System Needs Immediate Reform" (Global Athlete statement on the Kamila Valieva ruling by CAS): https://twitter.com/GlobalAthleteHQ/status/1493125785930059777
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I mean CAS ruled that Valieva can compete in Beijing and IOC should follow the ruling and let her compete. But IOC now decided to delay both the team and women's ceremonies until the completion of doping investigation. That's a bad decision. They should continue to hold the ceremonies and award the medals to the other winners without the presence team ROC and Valieva.IMO, the IOC cannot be blamed for a decision of the CAS. It is the CAS that is allowing a doping suspect to harm clean athletes.
I mean CAS ruled that Valieva can compete in Beijing and IOC should follow the ruling and let her compete. But IOC now decided to delay both the team and women's ceremonies until the completion of doping investigation. That's a bad decision. They should continue to hold the ceremonies and award the medals to the other winners without the presence team ROC and Valieva.
It's totally justified to award the team silver and bronze and not yet award Team ROC the gold as they are under doping investigation.As awful as it is, until or unless the results are overturned, Russia is still the winner of the team event. The IOC really can't have a medal ceremony that would exclude any of the current medalists.
It's totally justified to award the team silver and bronze and exclude Team ROC as they are under doping investigation.
It is the IOC's position that Valieva broke the rules. If they believe that ROC therefore should not have the gold and that the American team should receive gold medals and the Japanese should receive silver, then it is understandable why they would not hold a medal ceremony giving them different medals. This is one of many reasons why the CAS decision was so bad. They only considered the impact on Valieva.It's totally justified to award the team silver and bronze and exclude Team ROC as they are under doping investigation.
No. The point is the doping investigation shouldn't impact the other winners and deprive of their glory on the biggest stage. They are not asking the IOC to award gold to USA and silver to JPN. Their rights shouldn't be taken away by a doping suspect or it will be irreparable.That's not the point. They're still, officially, the winners of the event. The IOC is doing the safe thing by not awarding the medals until the investigation is complete.
I don't think withholding medication from a sick child is something to be proud of.Arthur says Kamila should be held responsible even though she is 15. "Alysa has been tested since she was 12 or 13 years old and she knows what she is supposed to take and what she’s not supposed to take. Even when she was a junior, when she was 12, during nationals she got really sick and I didn't give her any medication because of concerns of doping. I didn't even give her any medication, she was so sick."
Well, but the point is that, in delaying the medal ceremony, the IOC and ISU clearly do believe that they will be depriving the rightful podium winners of their correct medals.No. The point is the doping investigation shouldn't impact the other winners and deprive of their glory on the biggest stage. They are not asking the IOC to award gold to USA and silver to JPN. Their rights shouldn't be taken away by a doping suspect or it will be irreparable.
Either way, there is irreparable harm to the other teams. And to the sport and the Olympics. Now that Valieva is not suspended, there is no good solution.Their rights shouldn't be taken away by a doping suspect or it will be irreparable.
I think the athletes would prefer to be awarded their silver and bronze now in Beijing and re-awarded the gold, silver and bronze later at home should the investigation confirm ROC's wrongdoing.It is the IOC's position that Valieva broke the rules. If they believe that ROC therefore should not have the gold and that the American team should receive gold medals and the Japanese should receive silver, then it is understandable why they would not hold a medal ceremony giving them different medals. This is one of many reasons why the CAS decision was so bad. They only considered the impact on Valieva.
No. The point is the doping investigation shouldn't impact the other winners and deprive of their glory on the biggest stage. They are not asking the IOC to award gold to USA and silver to JPN. Their rights shouldn't be taken away by a doping suspect or it will be irreparable.
I don't think withholding medication from a sick child is something to be proud of.
Have you checked with them? I'm pretty sure that at least two of them would like to receive the CORRECT medal, judging by the fact that Wakaba Higuchi liked the USOPC statement tweet and Chris Knierim has also tweeted on the subject (but maybe he hasn't communicated with his wife on the topic yet).I think the athletes would prefer to be awarded their silver and bronze now in Beijing and re-awarded the gold, silver and bronze later at home should the investigation confirm ROC's wrongdoing.
I think the athletes would prefer to be awarded their silver and bronze now in Beijing and re-awarded the gold, silver and bronze later at home should the investigation confirm ROC's wrongdoing.
Just the opposite. A medal ceremony w/o the gold winner is a clear message to the world that ROC is under doping investigation, which the best punishment to them under the circumstance.Well, but the point is that, in delaying the medal ceremony, the IOC and ISU clearly do believe that they will be depriving the rightful podium winners of their correct medals.
What's more, holding a ceremony where the 1st place spot is empty will only provide additional fodder for the Russian propaganda machine. It's better to not have it. Those skaters will get their medals and they'll have their moment to celebrate.
Well as a parent of a skater at this level it is a reality.I don't think withholding medication from a sick child is something to be proud of.
What's going on isn't fair to any of the skaters, and whatever happens next, I hope it will lead to changes that will be in their best interests.
Just the opposite. A medal ceremony w/o the gold winner is a clear message to the world that ROC is under doping investigation, which the best punishment to them under the circumstance.
Ashley Wagner's most recent tweet/thread:I don't think withholding medication from a sick child is something to be proud of.
What's going on isn't fair to any of the skaters, and whatever happens next, I hope it will lead to changes that will be in their best interests.
Oh, really? It's all over the news whether through TV, the web and published news sources. You'd have to have your head in the sand not to know.Until or if the IOC overturns the results, Russia is the winner. And I don't think the world is unaware that a doping investigation is going on.