2023 World Team Trophy - April 13-16 - Tokyo, Japan

[Karen-W]

I think TPTB and the fans in Japan would be WTF?? if Conti/Macii didn't get the nod.

I'd forgotten that Levito is/is likely not participating. Then, I revise my comment: the Japanese Fed and TV people probably don't care who the first or second Italian, French, US, or Canadian woman is. It's a showdown between Japan and Korea.

True - same logic says they won't care who the 2nd Canadian man is, lol.

For the exhibition, I'd invite Schott, since they'd have an additional potential spot if they invite Hendrickx and Fear/Gibson.

The problem with Schott is that she was a total non-factor on the GP - she finished 20th in the standings.

They could decide to invite one from each discipline - Vasiljevs was 13th in the GP standings and Britschgi was 20th. Efimova/Blommaert are the highest ranked pair still together at 12th, but I'd probably invite Golubeva/Giotopoulos Moore instead, especially since they won the JGPF.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I think the recency of Worlds in Japan might have more influence than the WS lists or the GP standings. Since the GP was so 2022.

 

[Karen-W]

I think the recency of Worlds in Japan might have more influence than the WS lists or the GP standings. Since the GP was so 2022.

Well, in that case, I'd definitely invite GoluGM for the exhibition (who were also invited to skate in the Worlds gala and had a tremendous reaction from the crowd this week).

I just can't see them inviting Schott when they've got Loena probably on speed dial, and Men is clearly the most popular discipline in Japan. Vasiljevs has a fan base and is coached by Lambiel, but Britschgi's on the rise.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Men is clearly the most popular discipline in Japan.

You're probably right, if they've invited Kvitelashvili to the Worlds gala, lol:

https://twitter.com/jasonbskates/status/1639843545766047744

Maybe he'll be the fourth choice for WTT.

 

[zebobes]

I know that Levito is really exhausted from her season, but I wonder if instead of being so competitive, she lets go and just enjoys skating it will help her end the season on a good note? At the same time, if she's injured, it's best to let her rest. It's just that the audience really responded to her at the gala, and continuing to build a reputation with the audience will be good for her future.

 

[beckab81]

I'd like to see them invite Miura over Tomono - I love Kazuki, but Miura won 4CC and Jr Worlds, it would be nice for him to have this as a reward of sorts. Actually surprised they didn't include Miura at the Gala.

 

[Evgeniafan]

True - same logic says they won't care who the 2nd Canadian man is, lol.

The problem with Schott is that she was a total non-factor on the GP - she finished 20th in the standings.

They could decide to invite one from each discipline - Vasiljevs was 13th in the GP standings and Britschgi was 20th. Efimova/Blommaert are the highest ranked pair still together at 12th, but I'd probably invite Golubeva/Giotopoulos Moore instead, especially since they won the JGPF.

Please invite Deniss.

 

[Karen-W]

I'd like to see them invite Miura over Tomono - I love Kazuki, but Miura won 4CC and Jr Worlds, it would be nice for him to have this as a reward of sorts. Actually surprised they didn't include Miura at the Gala.

Miura is the 5th Japanese man down in the WS - Uno 1, Tomono 7, Kagiyama 10, Sato 12, Miura 13, Yamamoto 15 - that's why I expect it to be Tomono.

 

[victorskid]

I'd like to see them invite Miura over Tomono - I love Kazuki, but Miura won 4CC and Jr Worlds, it would be nice for him to have this as a reward of sorts. Actually surprised they didn't include Miura at the Gala.

They featured up and coming Juniors as opening acts for the two halves of the Gala.

 

[Frau Muller]

Presumably Ruiter since she did win silver at Canadians.

I hope you’re right! Ruiter should be the most-pushed Canadian woman.

 

[Marco]

Sota has been the 2nd Japanese man all season internationally, even placing 2nd at GPF. It's sad that he can't get to redeem himself at WTT after a weaker Nationals / Worlds. I wonder if Yuma is feeling healthier?

 

[Vagabond]

Likely WTT entries by country....

USA - Malinin, Brown, Glenn, 2nd woman, ??? (Shin WS 16, Thorngren WS 17, K Chen WS 22, Bell WS 27, Seo WS 32, Tennell WS 34, Andrews WS 35), Knierim/Frazier, Chock/Bates

Can you imagine if she got the spot? This forum would implode.

 

[airgelaal]

Team Japan

Women:
Kaori Sakamoto
Mai Mihara

Men:
Shoma Uno
Kazuki Tomono

Pairs: Riku Miura / Ryuichi Kihara

Ice dance: Kana Muramoto / Daisuke Takahashi

Captain: Kaori Sakamoto

宇野昌磨、坂本花織、三浦璃来、木原龍一組らが出場　フィギュア国別対抗戦選手発表 - スポーツ報知

フィギュアスケート国別対抗戦（４月１３～１６日・東京体育館）の日本代表選手が２７日、発表された。

hochi.news

 

[Frau Muller]

This entire WTT is a Japanese Self-made Loser. Boredom of the Year award.

Just like the non-factor Collegiate thing in January. All for Japanese CA-CHING. $$$$$ who-the - F*** -cares?

The figure skating season ended two days ago. Enjoy your summer!

 

[LoisAGOEs]

This entire WTT is a Japanese Self-made Loser. Boredom of the Year award.

Just like the non-factor Collegiate thing in January. All for Japanese CA-CHING. $$$$$ who-the - F*** -cares?

The figure skating season ended two days ago. Enjoy your summer!

Well every team participating certainly cares considering it’s the event with the biggest prize money in the entire skating calendar.

 

[Tesla]

Well every team participating certainly cares considering it’s the event with the biggest prize money in the entire skating calendar.

Plus, it seems like all the teams have a ton of fun.

 

[MsZem]

Team Japan

...

Ice dance: Kana Muramoto / Daisuke Takahashi

Let us reflect upon Dai's first appearance at this event, eleven years ago

(this includes the famous "skaters of the world rejoice" KnC)

 

[livetoskate]

Let us reflect upon Dai's first appearance at this event, eleven years ago

(this includes the famous "skaters of the world rejoice" KnC)

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Great skate from Daisuke. Nice to see Chris Reed too.

 

[kwanette]

This entire WTT is a Japanese Self-made Loser. Boredom of the Year award.

Just like the non-factor Collegiate thing in January. All for Japanese CA-CHING. $$$$$ who-the - F*** -cares?

The figure skating season ended two days ago. Enjoy your summer!

Scott Moir, is that you?

 

[danafan]

Skate Canada published the assignments:

Men: Messing and Gogolev
Women: Schizas and Dupuis
Pairs: Stelatto-Dudek and Deschamps
Dance: Gilles and Poirier

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[tony]

This entire WTT is a Japanese Self-made Loser. Boredom of the Year award.

Just like the non-factor Collegiate thing in January. All for Japanese CA-CHING. $$$$$ who-the - F*** -cares?

The figure skating season ended two days ago. Enjoy your summer!

Not Frau speaking for everyone else yet again like we all share the same opinion.

The USFSA used to do this each and every year right after Worlds, too. And after the Grand Prix. And before the Grand Prix. And any other random time they could fit into the schedule.

The WTT is a favorite of many skaters, and it gives them an opportunity to compete in a different atmosphere without the pressures of Worlds.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

USA Assignments

Women - Thorngren, Seo

Men - Malinin, Ma

Pairs - C / H

Dance - C/ B


tee-hee

 

[Sylvia]

Just noticed that @aussieSKATES posted the ISU's March 27th WTT press release link in the wrong thread: https://isu.org/figure-skating/news...eam-trophy-in-figure-skating?templateParam=15

Japan leads the six countries that qualified for the ISU World Team Trophy in Figure Skating (April 13-16) in Tokyo (JPN). The host country that has their new World Champions Kaori Sakamoto, Shoma Uno and Riku Miura/Ryuichi Kihara on the roster will be joined by the teams from the USA, Canada, Korea, Italy and France. The ISU World Team Trophy is a biennal event.
Following a successful season and ISU World Championship, Japan tops the standings with 9453 points. The USA follow with 8721 points. Canada collected 5978 points to rank third. Korea stands in fourth on 5477 points. Italy qualified with 5260 points while France has 3943 points. Korea will take part for the first time in the ISU World Team Trophy.

The Announcement says entries by name are due "by Thursday March 30, 2023 – 20:00 (JST), local time Tokyo / JPN."

 

[Frau Muller]

Not Frau speaking for everyone else yet again like we all share the same opinion.

The USFSA used to do this each and every year right after Worlds, too. And after the Grand Prix. And before the Grand Prix. And any other random time they could fit into the schedule.

The WTT is a favorite of many skaters, and it gives them an opportunity to compete in a different atmosphere without the pressures of Worlds.

How are audiences, outside Japan, for these events?

 

[kwanette]

Not Frau speaking for everyone else yet again like we all share the same opinion.

The USFSA used to do this each and every year right after Worlds, too. And after the Grand Prix. And before the Grand Prix. And any other random time they could fit into the schedule.

The WTT is a favorite of many skaters, and it gives them an opportunity to compete in a different atmosphere without the pressures of Worlds.

The Cheese Fests? They were fun..Attended a few.

 

[kwanette]

USA Assignments

Women - Thorngren, Seo

Men - Malinin, Ma

Pairs - C / H

Dance - C/ B


tee-hee

Is this true?

USA Assignments

Women - Thorngren, Seo

Men - Malinin, Ma

Pairs - C / H

Dance - C/ B


tee-hee

This is true?

 

[Andrea82]

The figure skating season ended two days ago. Enjoy your summer!

No, the figure skating season ends in June with the much-awaited Hollins Trophy International. And we also still have Wolmar Spring Cup (7-8 April), Triglav Trophy & Narcisa Cup (12-16 April), Thailand Open Figure Skating Trophy (1-4 May), Oceania International Competiton (15-17 May) and Mexico Cup (16-20 May).

 

[Sylvia]

Is this true?

No.

The ISU's press release today (linked in post #53 above) states: "The USA has not yet announced their team, but newly minted World Ice Dance Madison Chock/Evan Bates, World Pairs silver medalists Alexa Knierim/Brandon Frazier and World bronze medalist Ilia Malinin as well as Jason Brown are expected to compete."

 

[ice coverage]

Projected Final Standings for WTT entrants: ...

Just noticed that @aussieSKATES posted the ISU's March 27th WTT press release link in the wrong thread: https://isu.org/figure-skating/news...eam-trophy-in-figure-skating?templateParam=15

Japan leads the six countries that qualified for the ISU World Team Trophy in Figure Skating (April 13-16) in Tokyo (JPN). The host country that has their new World Champions Kaori Sakamoto, Shoma Uno and Riku Miura/Ryuichi Kihara on the roster will be joined by the teams from the USA, Canada, Korea, Italy and France. The ISU World Team Trophy is a biennal event.
Following a successful season and ISU World Championship, Japan tops the standings with 9453 points. The USA follow with 8721 points. Canada collected 5978 points to rank third. Korea stands in fourth on 5477 points. Italy qualified with 5260 points while France has 3943 points. Korea will take part for the first time in the ISU World Team Trophy.

Thanks to Karen for crunching numbers for her projection, which correctly came up with the six qualifying countries.

The official order and point totals of the six qualifying countries have slight differences from her projection.
The reason is that for the points received for ISU Championships, Worlds results take precedence. Results from Four Continents and Euros don't count (even if the points gained would be higher), unless there would be zero points from Worlds to fill a box.

The wording from the WTT announcement is: "If Skaters/Couples of an ISU Member have not obtained World Standing points in the ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2023, then it is possible to use the ISU European Figure Skating Championships 2023 respectively the ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships 2023 and if needed the ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships 2023."

I have amended Karen's table to show how the official point totals add up.

GP/GPF/JPG Man 1

GP/GPF/JPG Man 2

GP/GPF/JPG Woman 1

GP/GPF/JPG Woman 2

GP/GPF/JGP Pair 1

GP/GPF/JGP Dance 1

ISU Champ Man 1

ISU Champ Man 2

ISU Champ Woman 1

ISU Champ Woman 2

ISU Champ Pair 1

ISU Champ Dance 1

TOTAL

JPN

800

720

800

583

800

236

1200

840 709 for Worlds 6th

1200

787

1200

446 418 for Worlds 11th

9612 9453

Uno

Yamamoto

Mihara

Watanabe

MiuKih

MuraTaka

Uno

Miura Tomono

Sakamoto

Mihara

MiuKih

KoKo Kana/Dai

USA

648

262

720

360

720

720

972

787

875

446 377 for Worlds 12th

1080

1200

8790 8721

Malinin

Pulkinen

Levito

Andrews

KniFraz

ChoBat

Malinin

Brown

Levito

Glenn

KniFraz

ChoBat

CAN

292

262

262

191

583

800

756 638 for Worlds 7th

402

362

339

875

972

6096 5978

Messing

Sadovsky

Schizas

Daleman

SDDes

GilPoir

Messing

Orzel

Dupuis

Schizas

SDDes

GilPoir

ITA

472

324

0

0

648

648

756 517 for Worlds 9th

496 377 for Worlds 12th

402 222 for Worlds 17th

0

972

1080

5798 5260

Grassl

Rizzo

n/a

n/a

ConMac

GuiFab

Rizzo

Grassl

Gutmann

n/a

ConMac

GuiFab

KOR

324

292

472

324

0

250

1080

496

1080

756 709 for Worlds 6th

0

450

5524 5477

Cha

Lee

Y. Kim

You

LimQuan

Cha

Lee

Lee

Y. Kim C. Kim

n/a

LimQuan

FRA

400

324

191

148

360

324

875

840 465 for Worlds 10th

174

0

496 305 for Worlds 14th

551 377 for Worlds 12th

4683 3943

Siao Him Fa

Aymoz

Meite

Schild

Les Kovs

LopBri

Aymoz

Siao Him Fa

Schild

n/a

Les Kovs

LopBri

 

[Karen-W]

USA Assignments

Women - Thorngren, Seo

Men - Malinin, Ma

Pairs - C / H

Dance - C/ B


tee-hee

I'd not complain about these assignments. I'm one of the few around here who liked Seo's late season new "Simple Gifts" SP. And who wouldn't want to see Hot Ghost and "this gentlewoman" again? Lol.