2021-22 ISU Challenger Series announced

[litenkyckling]

I think they will be fine with the four comps. Its not like they have much competition in reality.

I think the issue is more to do with world standings points - at this point in time they will be in the 3rd to last group in the OG RD.

 

[kirkbiggestfan]

I'd love a tidbit to know whether they've kept the Tango FD

Gadbois is very well trained at keeping that private. Romain is a very experienced ice-dance politician. Even the Armenian team would not tell me! We'll have to wait a bit more for the official release.

As far as World Standings, there are a lot of points to gain in the GPF in Osaka and Euros in Estonia. That is another logistic nightmare to deal with before the Olympics.

 

[Sylvia]

Copying over these relevant posts from the JGP thread:

https://twitter.com/figureskatingm1/status/1432961406593236993

So... Japan won't send any skaters to JGP, Lombardia or Autumn Classic (Miyahara will withdraw).

They're planning to send skaters to Asian Open, but that will depend on circumstances then.

Satoko has been training in Japan for months. Possibly the plan was for her to go back to Canada to resume training there, and that is why they entered her at ACI. It now seems they have decided to keep their athletes training at home, hence the withdrawal.

 

[Wyliefan]

Fear/Gibson are out of ACI.

https://twitter.com/AnythingGOE/status/1433097180164890635

 

[Karen-W]

Fear/Gibson are out of ACI.

https://twitter.com/AnythingGOE/status/1433097180164890635

Dang... at this rate, ACI might be in danger of not being considered a Challenger in dance as well!

At what point does Skate Canada open up some dialogue with the USFS and ISU about just transferring all of their entries in all 3 disciplines to US Classic and give it Challenger status instead?

 

[Sylvia]

Autumn Classic International's original list of entries updated through today (Sept. 1): https://results.isu.org/events/fsevent00110961.htm

Men (4)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Nam NGUYEN CAN 1
2 Conrad ORZEL CAN 1
3 Joseph PHAN CAN 1
4 Daniels KOCKERS LAT 2
5 Kirills KORKACS LAT 2
6 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 2
7 Donovan CARRILLO MEX 3 (listed for U.S. Classic in Boston the same week)
8 Camden PULKINEN USA 4

Women (13)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Emily BAUSBACK CAN 1
2 Gabrielle DALEMAN CAN 1
3 Alison SCHUMACHER CAN 1
4 Shan LIN CHN 2
5 Marilena KITROMILIS CYP 3
6 Eliska BREZINOVA CZE 4
7 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 5
8 Seoyeon JI KOR 6
9 Siwon LEE KOR 6
10 Young YOU KOR 6
11 Mariia BOLSHEVA LAT 7
12 Angelina KUCHVALSKA LAT 7
13 Anete LACE LAT 7
14 Joelle Peijen LIN TPE 8
15 Jenny SHYU TPE 8
16 Starr ANDREWS USA 9
17 Karen CHEN USA 9

Ice Dance (9)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Tina GARABEDIAN / Simon PROULX SENECAL ARM 1 (listed for U.S. Classic)
2 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 2
3 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 2
4 Haley SALES / Nikolas WAMSTEEKER CAN 2
5 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 2
6 Hong CHEN / Zhuoming SUN CHN 3
7 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 3
8 Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ ESP 4
9 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 5
10 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 6
11 Charlotte LAFOND-FOURNIER / Richard Kang In KAM NZL 7
12 Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS USA 8

 

[RoseRed]

Dang... at this rate, ACI might be in danger of not being considered a Challenger in dance as well!

At what point does Skate Canada open up some dialogue with the USFS and ISU about just transferring all of their entries in all 3 disciplines to US Classic and give it Challenger status instead?

They're still fine for dance at the moment. 9 entries from 5 countries. Even if the two Chinese teams end up WDing, it would still be good. They need a minimum of 6 entries from 4 countries. So hopefully not going to be a problem.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Fear/Gibson are out of ACI.

https://twitter.com/AnythingGOE/status/1433097180164890635

Can you help me keep up to date. if both of those teams live and train in Canada, at least I think they are still training there, why are they withdrawing from ACI?

 

[Sylvia]

Lombardia Trophy original list of entries - updated through Aug. 22 (singles) & Aug. 25 (dance): https://results.isu.org/events/fsevent00110957.htm

Note: A starting order/results page was published on Aug. 31 but the entries links are not working yet

Men (25)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Luc MAIERHOFER AUT 1
2 Maurizio ZANDRON AUT 1
3 Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE 2
4 Konstantin MILYUKOV BLR 3
5 Larry LOUPOLOVER BUL 4
6 Radoslav MARINOV BUL 4
7 Matyas BELOHRADSKY CZE 5
8 Tomas Llorenc GUARINO SABATE ESP 6
9 Arlet LEVANDI EST 7
10 Aleksandr SELEVKO EST 7
11 Roman GALAY FIN 8
12 Romain PONSART FRA 9
13 Adam SIAO HIM FA FRA 9
14 Adrien TESSON FRA 9
15 Graham NEWBERRY GBR 10
16 Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO 11
17 Nikita STAROSTIN GER 12
18 Mate BOROCZ HUN 13
19 Andras CSERNOCH HUN 13
20 Daniel GRASSL ITA 14
21 Nikolaj MEMOLA ITA 14
22 Daniels KOCKERS LAT 15
23 Kirills KORKACS LAT 15
24 Davide LEWTON BRAIN MON 16
25 Matthew SAMUELS RSA 17
26 Leon AUSPURG SUI 18
27 Tomoki HIWATASHI USA 19
28 Yaroslav PANIOT USA 19

Women (39)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Stefanie PESENDORFER AUT 1
2 Lara ROTH AUT 1
3 Sophia SCHALLER AUT 1
4 Ivelina BAYCHEVA BUL 2
5 Kristina GRIGOROVA BUL 2
6 Maria MANOVA BUL 2
7 Yae-Mia NEIRA CHI 3
8 Olusa GAJDOSOVA CZE 4
9 Eva-Lotta KIIBUS EST 5
10 Nataly LANGERBAUR EST 5
11 Kristina SHKULETA-GROMOVA EST 5
12 Laura KARHUNEN FIN 6
13 Emmi PELTONEN FIN 6
14 Maia MAZZARA FRA 7
15 Lea SERNA FRA 7
16 Nina POVEY GBR 8
17 Kristen SPOURS GBR 8
18 Nargiz SULEYMANOVA GER 9
19 Alexandra MINTSIDOU GRE 10
20 Regina SCHERMANN HUN 11
21 Bernadett SZIGETI HUN 11
22 Ivett TOTH HUN 11
Julia LANG HUN 11 S
23 Lucrezia BECCARI ITA 12
24 Lara Naki GUTMANN ITA 12
25 Ginevra Lavinia NEGRELLO ITA 12
26 Mariia BOLSHEVA LAT 13
27 Angelina KUCHVALSKA LAT 13
28 Anete LACE LAT 13
29 Romana KAISER LIE 14
30 Lindsay VAN ZUNDERT NED 15
31 Nayra Rosalia JUNCO METZGER PER 16
32 Victoria VELARDE PER 16
33 Ekaterina KURAKOVA POL 17
34 Julia SAUTER ROU 18
ADDED: Dasa GRM SLO
35 Antonina DUBININA SRB 19
36 Alexia PAGANINI SUI 20
37 Shaline RUEGGER SUI 20
38 Yasmine Kimiko YAMADA SUI 20
Livia KAISER SUI 20 S
39 Alysa LIU USA 21
40 Audrey SHIN USA 21

Ice Dance (23)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Chantelle KERRY / Andrew DODDS AUS 1 (staying in USA & will compete at U.S. Classic)
2 Ekaterina KUZNETSOVA / Oleksandr KOLOSOVSKYI AZE 2
3 Alicia FABBRI / Paul AYER CAN 3
4 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSEN CAN 3
5 Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER CZE 4
6 Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVIN ESP 5
7 Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN FIN 6
8 Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS FIN 6
9 Loicia DEMOUGEOT / Theo LE MERCIER FRA 7
10 Evgeniia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUD FRA 7
11 Julia WAGRET / Pierre SOUQUET-BASIEGE FRA 7
12 Jennifer JANSE VAN RENSBURG / Benjamin STEFFAN GER 8
13 Emese CSISZER / Axel LAMASSE HUN 9
14 Mariia IGNATEVA / Danyil SEMKO HUN 9
15 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Adam LUKACS HUN 9
16 Chiara CALDERONE / Francesco RIVA ITA 10
17 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 10
18 Carolina MOSCHENI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 10
19 Carolina PORTESI PERONI / Michael CHRASTECKY ITA 10
20 Aurelija IPOLITO / Luke RUSSELL LAT 11
21 Paulina RAMANAUSKAITE / Deividas KIZALA LTU 12
22 Jenna HERTENSTEIN / Damian BINKOWSKI POL 13
23 Maria Sofia PUCHEROVA / Nikita LYSAK SVK 14
24 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 15
25 Molly CESANEK / Yehor YEHOROV USA 15

 

[wickedwitch]

Autumn Classic International's original list of entries updated through today (Sept. 1): https://results.isu.org/events/fsevent00110961.htm

Men (4)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Nam NGUYEN CAN 1
2 Conrad ORZEL CAN 1
3 Joseph PHAN CAN 1
4 Daniels KOCKERS LAT 2
5 Kirills KORKACS LAT 2
6 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 2
7 Donovan CARRILLO MEX 3 (U.S. Classic)
8 Camden PULKINEN USA 4

Pre-emptively feeling bad for the one who ends up not medaling.

 

[Karen-W]

Pre-emptively feeling bad for the one who ends up not medaling.

If only Canada gave pewter medals, lol.

 

[Colonel Green]

At what point does Skate Canada open up some dialogue with the USFS and ISU about just transferring all of their entries in all 3 disciplines to US Classic and give it Challenger status instead?

Never, because that doesn't benefit them in any way.

Can you help me keep up to date. if both of those teams live and train in Canada, at least I think they are still training there, why are they withdrawing from ACI?

Papadakis & Cizeron are apparently going to do French Masters de Patinage as their first event, and may or may not do a later Challenger.

We haven't been given any explanation for Fear & Gibson withdrawing.

 

[Dobre]

I think the issue is more to do with world standings points - at this point in time they will be in the 3rd to last group in the OG RD.

Well, they're obviously not going to be way down there. There's never that much reason to worry about where a top team is in WS points at the start of the season. (Though if things get cancelled for the crud, then it happens & we all just have to recognize that the WS point system will be off the rocks). The European teams will have major international points in Europe. And if you're going to the GPF, that's extra there which most teams can't get. Even if P&C end up in the 2nd to last group in the Olympic Games, that's something that happens every Olympiad to top skaters. It's not ideal, but if you have the reputation--which they clearly do--the marks usually come in. Plus, then you don't have to go up right after your major competition brings in a record-breaking score. Which happens during the Olympics. It will matter much more what P&C's head-to-head results are coming in from events during the season.


If P&C have something to worry about in skipping the Challenger Season, it would be facing tough head-to-head competition on the GP. If they do not compete internationally elsewhere, their first non-home event will be against Hubbell & Donohue (and Stepanova & Bukin) in neutral territory in Italy.

This would not be a great place to learn that your level 4 spin is actually only going to get approved for a level 1.

(Ditto goes for Hubbell & Donohue if they do not do a CS. In their case, their first GP would be a head-to-head with Chock & Bates at SA).

 

[ostile17]

Autumn Classic International's original list of entries updated through today (Sept. 1): https://results.isu.org/events/fsevent00110961.htm

Men (4)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Nam NGUYEN CAN 1
2 Conrad ORZEL CAN 1
3 Joseph PHAN CAN 1
4 Daniels KOCKERS LAT 2
5 Kirills KORKACS LAT 2
6 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 2
7 Donovan CARRILLO MEX 3 (listed for U.S. Classic in Boston the same week)
8 Camden PULKINEN USA 4

Women (13)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Emily BAUSBACK CAN 1
2 Gabrielle DALEMAN CAN 1
3 Alison SCHUMACHER CAN 1
4 Shan LIN CHN 2
5 Marilena KITROMILIS CYP 3
6 Eliska BREZINOVA CZE 4
7 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 5
8 Seoyeon JI KOR 6
9 Siwon LEE KOR 6
10 Young YOU KOR 6
11 Mariia BOLSHEVA LAT 7
12 Angelina KUCHVALSKA LAT 7
13 Anete LACE LAT 7
14 Joelle Peijen LIN TPE 8
15 Jenny SHYU TPE 8
16 Starr ANDREWS USA 9
17 Karen CHEN USA 9

Ice Dance (9)
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Tina GARABEDIAN / Simon PROULX SENECAL ARM 1 (listed for U.S. Classic)
2 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 2
3 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 2
4 Haley SALES / Nikolas WAMSTEEKER CAN 2
5 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 2
6 Hong CHEN / Zhuoming SUN CHN 3
7 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 3
8 Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZ ESP 4
9 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 5
10 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 6
11 Charlotte LAFOND-FOURNIER / Richard Kang In KAM NZL 7
12 Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS USA 8

I wish at least JSF entered the ice dancers, since they are all based in North America.
I don't get it!

 

[Sylvia]

I wish at least JSF entered the ice dancers, since they are all based in North America.
I don't get it!

Maybe Komatsubara/Koleto don't feel ready to compete yet? At least Muramoto/Takahashi are entered in a Florida club competition this weekend - thanks for the info you posted in the latter's cheer thread : https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...hashi-cheer-thread.107785/page-2#post-6043533 (eta: @YukiNieve has posted the info in the U.S. Club Competitions thread in Kiss & Cry)

 

[danafan]

Nebelhorn entries are finally up.

http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent00110963.htm

 

[Jeschke]

Turkey entered 2 guys on equal level - that might get in the end regarding Olympic spots race!

 

[Jeschke]

So dear organizers, can you finally give some details about audience?

ETA: Small audience contingent allowed - whatever that means

 

[Hedwig]

No info on that yet, but I'd assume it's probably the same as previous years.

Will it be open to the public? Nebelhorn isnt so I am thinking about coming to Finland.

 

[Miezekatze]

The latest nebelhorn info is that as of now people can spontanuously buy tickets at the rink, but nothing is guaranteed.

 

[Sylvia]

I've bolded all the skaters entered for the Olympic qualifying competition in this thread: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...es-pairs-ice-dance.108202/page-5#post-6047040

 

[Hedwig]

FGour entries in ice dance for Germany. Is that allowed?

 

[Hedwig]

The latest nebelhorn info is that as of now people can spontanuously buy tickets at the rink, but nothing is guaranteed.

Yes. I am not doing 7 hours by train for maybe then having to go hiking.

 

[Jeschke]

The latest nebelhorn info is that as of now people can spontanuously buy tickets at the rink, but nothing is guaranteed.

Yeah that info is seriously for those wanting to attend from further away.

 

[Hanna]

Will it be open to the public? Nebelhorn isnt so I am thinking about coming to Finland.

I already bought my ticket. So yes! At least unless something changes drastically... but right now they're considering opening up more rows and not the other way around. Please come to Finland! We'll have our usual great crew along with @Finnice and others!

 

[SmallFairy]

Soooo....at the moment CAN is sending Sadovsky and RUS is sending Aliev
So much heartbreak in the making.

 

[seabm7]

ACI has now pairs included:

http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent00110961.htm

I think in this way, they are trying to preserve the CS status.

 

[SmallFairy]

In general, the rooster is awesome, no wonder. Too bad Norway aren't even trying. I mean, Iceland and India is....

Of course, Krasnopolski will be there, with another partner.

 

[Jeschke]

In general, the rooster is awesome, no wonder.

Of which list are you speaking?

 

[Sylvia]

ACI has now pairs included:

http://www.isuresults.com/events/fsevent00110961.htm

Thanks!

Autumn Classic International Pairs: http://www.isuresults.com/events/cscan2021_Pairs.htm
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Chloe CHOINARD / Livio MAYR AUT 1
2 Vanessa JAMES / Eric RADFORD CAN 2
3 Lori-Ann MATTE / Thierry FERLAND CAN 2
4 Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN 2
5 Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD CAN 2
6 Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 3
7 Jessica PFUND / Joshua SANTILLAN SUI 4 (based in Florida)

01/09/2021 15:41:47 UTC