The Dance Hall 7: Tripping the Light Fantastic 2019-2020

[Dobre]

This is a general discussion thread for all things ice dance. A place where fans of all ice dance teams have the chance to discuss their favorite heart-stopping moments, tear-inducing mistakes, what you have to do in order to actually lose points for mucking up your sliding choreo element, whether Maria was really from Buenos Aires, and whatever else the ice dance world throws at us.

We all survived the FSU Crash of Worlds 2019!

-If you missed last season, you may feel free to catch up on all 4,000+ posts here:
https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/the-dance-hall-6-were-all-off-our-rockers-2018-2019.103823/

Continue.

 

[Cayuse]

Smiling at the title!

 

[dramagrrl]

(hopefully) Has a dance team already announced a program for next season to the selection referenced in the thread title?

 

[skatfan]

(hopefully) Has a dance team already announced a program for next season to the selection referenced in the thread title?

Not that I’ve heard but I do have some ideas as you can tell

 

[MarieM]

If someone DOES skate to that, I'll be delighted

 

[Dobre]

(hopefully) Has a dance team already announced a program for next season to the selection referenced in the thread title?

Nope. I just happen to like the way it sounds. And it means "to dance" so it feels appropriate.

-Thus far the only program announcements I've seen are for Mama Mia (Sales & Wamsteeker), Grease (Smart & Diaz), Malaguena/flamenco (Carreira & Ponomarenko), and Chicago (Zagorski & Guerreiro).

 

[Miloune]

Thanks for the new thread, the old one was getting toxic haha

BRING THE NEW STUFF WE ARE READY!

 

[Ka3sha]

-Thus far the only program announcements I've seen are for Mama Mia (Sales & Wamsteeker), Grease (Smart & Diaz), Malaguena/flamenco (Carreira & Ponomarenko), and Chicago (Zagorski & Guerreiro).

+ we have “Hello, Dolly!” (Hurtado/Khaliavin) now

 

[Colonel Green]

We all survived the FSU Crash of Worlds 2019!

I survived it with intrepid calm, as I was asleep at the time.

 

[Dobre]

+ we have “Hello, Dolly!” (Hurtado/Khaliavin) now

I'm trying to imagine them in it and not quite succeeding (this is probably because I haven't seen the film for years and then only once); but I'm just so glad it's something I haven't seen done by figure skaters a slew of times that I find myself quite happy about it.

 

[Bigbird]

+ we have “Hello, Dolly!” (Hurtado/Khaliavin) now

Oh My Goodness. Just how will I get through this? I think I need to take a break and only watch the really important tournaments provided I'm still alive, namely GPF and Worlds.

 

[CassAgain]

Wasn't there a junior team from Japan but trained at Gadbois in the last couple of years that had a Hello, Dolly! program?

 

[VGThuy]

Oh My Goodness. Just how will I get through this? I think I need to take a beak and only watch the really important tournaments provided I'm still alive, namely GPF and Worlds.

I for one am excited. The songs “Put on your Sunday’s Clothes” and “Dancing” are perfect for this rhythm.

https://youtu.be/RyTiDEf4Fxc

https://youtu.be/NKoB4U1-Zpo

 

[Bigbird]

I for one am excited. The songs “Put on your Sunday’s Clothes” and “Dancing” are perfect for this rhythm.

https://youtu.be/RyTiDEf4Fxc

https://youtu.be/NKoB4U1-Zpo

The camp is just so yikes...I just can't right now. You can imagine Kiril dancing to this?

 

[VGThuy]

The camp is just so yikes...I just can't right now. You can imagine Kiril dancing to this?

It's not camp. It requires the ability to actually dance to a rhythm, so I'm glad ice dancers are taking on this challenge. Jerry Herman is an excellent composer and the lyrics have a rhyme scheme and character most songwriters wish they could do.

 

[happycamper2554]

The camp is just so yikes...I just can't right now. You can imagine Kiril dancing to this?

I'm so excited to see what sinitsina and katsalapov are going to do. In my mind nikita is going to rock a musical.

 

[mjb52]

I'm so excited to see what sinitsina and katsalapov are going to do. In my mind nikita is going to rock a musical.

Hope that Australian horror goth Grease is still available! .

 

[Bigbird]

I'm so excited to see what sinitsina and katsalapov are going to do. In my mind nikita is going to rock a musical.

Oh yes. Oh yes.

And P/C, haha. Please, let them do something cheeky and uniquely French

 

[Colonel Green]

"Big Spender" fits the Teatime Foxtrot rhythm, so I'm expecting at least one age-inappropriate junior dance program set to that.

 

[hlp728]

Wasn't there a junior team from Japan but trained at Gadbois in the last couple of years that had a Hello, Dolly! program?

Yep, Fukase and Tateno used Hello, Dolly for a FD. https://youtu.be/Ob9b46tv8UQ

Great choice by Sara and Kirill. Which version will they use is what I’m wondering, as well as which songs are they picking? Will it be Bette, Carol, Barbra, etc.? “Before the Parade Passes By” would work as a march if they chose that as one of their songs. Sara’s costumes were fabulous this year, so I’m excited to see what she wears as Dolly. I hope she wears something like the gold dress and gloves Barbra Streisand wears in the movie. Now, I’ve got to watch the movie again.


Did anyone else see Popova’s IG stories? I thought she said Cabaret was their RD music, but I’m not well versed in Russian so I may be wrong.

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[Sylvia]

Wasn't there a junior team from Japan but trained at Gadbois in the last couple of years that had a Hello, Dolly! program?

Good memory! It was the Senior FD of Rikako Fukase/Aru Tareno in 2017-18 (their last season together): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00035073.htm
She (Fukase) is listed on IPS as of January 2019.

Did anyone else see Popova’s IG stories? I thought she said Cabaret was their RD music, but I’m not well versed in Russian so I may be wrong.

Looks like it - here's a screen cap of Betina Popova's IG story: https://twitter.com/sywtwfs/status/1123257686588624897

 

[Ka3sha]

Hurtado/Khaliavin had been working on their FD with Antonio Najarro
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw7gYvvhc58/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw-A42hgi3b/

 

[Bigbird]

Hurtado/Khaliavin had been working on their FD with Antonio Najarro
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw7gYvvhc58/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw-A42hgi3b/

Why would anyone do Flamenco right after a tango RD? It's latin overload for the judges Zhulin, I'm looking at you. This doesn't look anywhere as strong or interesting as what she had with Diaz in 2015 does it? Zhulin, again I'm looking at you.
So we have two flamenco's so far right, them and C/P?

 

[Lara111]

Why would anyone do Flamenco right after a tango RD? It's latin overload for the judges Zhulin, I'm looking at you. This doesn't look anywhere as strong or interesting as what she had with Diaz in 2015 does it? Zhulin, again I'm looking at you.
So we have two flamenco's so far right, them and C/P?

Kind of less work and better results since they do the same dance for the second year in a row.

 

[VGThuy]

But tango and flamenco are different dances with different sorts of movement and character.

 

[RoseRed]

But tango and flamenco are different dances with different sorts of movement and character.

Didn't they already do a sort of Flamenco themed program in the Olympic season though? I guess the Don Quijote music was more ballet than flamenco, so it's different enough.

But it's a bit of a disappointing choice to me, honestly, because I liked their modern FD this year a lot better than the Don Quijote.

I'm actually more excited to see C/P's flamenco than theirs.

 

[VGThuy]

Maybe they want to make a statement that they are the more “Spanish” of the two teams vying for the championship title and Worlds berth.

 

[Dobre]

Clips of Oona & Gage Brown's exhibition version of their Junior free dance (her assisted lift of him at the end drew big applause) at the Ice Theatre of New York's "Spring Unplugged" show on May 2nd: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw_IL1enHFy/

This post in the U.S. dance thread brought up a question I've been having this past season. I've been wondering if the increased GOE points might create a higher level of reward for reverse lifts than we have seen since IJS came into effect. My mom, who is/was a Parsons fan, was saying mid-season that she really thought Michael and Rachel should just switch the one low lift they had been having difficulty getting much +goe on. That they might really bring it in by reversing the lift.

It seems to me like reverse lifts went out of favor when it became clear that they wouldn't be worth more technical points under IJS than a regular lift; but now that choreographic lifts are an element and the GOE reward from them has proved to be a place-changer for a team like Fear & Gibson (and I suspect made a difference for a few others, maybe Nguyen & Kolesnik?), I wondered if we might see the reverse lifts start bringing in their due. Thoughts?

 

[sharsk8s]

This post in the U.S. dance thread brought up a question I've been having this past season. I've been wondering if the increased GOE points might create a higher level of reward for reverse lifts than we have seen since IJS came into effect. My mom, who is/was a Parsons fan, was saying mid-season that she really thought Michael and Rachel should just switch the one low lift they had been having difficulty getting much +goe on. That they might really bring it in by reversing the lift.

It seems to me like reverse lifts went out of favor when it became clear that they wouldn't be worth more technical points under IJS than a regular lift; but now that choreographic lifts are an element and the GOE reward from them has proved to be a place-changer for a team like Fear & Gibson (and I suspect made a difference for a few others, maybe Nguyen & Kolesnik?), I wondered if we might see the reverse lifts start bringing in their due. Thoughts?

For teams that are physically capable of doing it (both the browns and parsons don't have huge physical differences) and it would match the program concept, I say go for it. But don't do it just for the sake of doing it. The Browns lift is very well executed and I really enjoy it, but with so many of the top teams having large height/weight differences I don't see it becoming too common on the senior level, perhaps on the junior level.

 

[Ka3sha]

Maybe they want to make a statement that they are the more “Spanish” of the two teams vying for the championship title and Worlds berth.

Don't know if they are trying to make a statement , but it seems that Sara tries to work with Spanish choreographers and musicians as much as possible.
Last year they worked with Iker Karrera, Spanish choreographer , who specializes in contemporary. They are working with Najarro again and also , as far as I understand, use some 'fresh' flamenco music written by David Peña Donates. She also said that one of Spanish fashion designers want to work with H/K on their costumes for the next season.
It's pretty great actually as Spain is still a kind of new place on the figure skating map, and all those talented people probably can bring something new to our favorite sport

I think that flamenco is a good choice for them (especially for Sara) , but Spain has such a rich culture, that I just wish they chose something more interesting and different from what we have already seen on the ice.
Just few weeks ago Sara and Kirill said that they were considering skating to soundtrack to one of Pedro Almodovar's movies..
Wishful thinking , but I can easily imagine them skating to something like 'Na Floresta' - Nacho Duet's one-act ballet.