Hold on to your fascinators, it could be a snarky ride! It's Royal Wedding Day! Wheeee!

I wasn't sure about Oprah's dress initially, but I came to like it. I thought it was perfect for the occasion.
 
taf2002 said:
I was amused by all the reports of the people who "stole the show" from Meghan: George & Charlotte, Kate by wearing white (it was clearly light yellow), the Mulroney twins, Pippa, Amal, Serena, & various other guests stole the show by wearing beautiful outfits.
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Oh, that's so ridiculous! (I didn't even think that the top of Pippa's dress looked all that flattering on her, it looked rather unfortunate to me.) If anything, Charlotte may have stolen the show a little bit after the ceremony but I think that bride and groom were clearly the center of attention.

I want to love Meghan's dress but I can't. I love that it's simple and I love the top but something about the cut of the skirt bothers me. I did love the veil and tiara though. I thought they looked great on her.

(Why did Oprah have to have a dress made overnight? :confused:)
 
IceAlisa said:
I see nothing wrong with that if you’ve maintained good relationships.

The countess Spencer was indeed stunning. Oh! She’s Canadian!
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My experiences with exes is limited to my mother’s exes - maintaining good relationships was not something that I ever witnessed!

I liked Oprah’s dress, although it was too pale a color, I think it would have looked better in a jewel tone. It is a challenge to dress curvy figures with huge boobs. :shuffle:
 
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Having a browse through social media this morning, it's interesting to see the split of opinions on Curry's sermon. The majority of people who seem to think it was fine are Americans. The majority of people who think it wasn't fine are non-Americans. Talk about a culture split.
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Please, no. You are so wrong.
Maybe you're not looking at the right social media, or maybe you should consider that social media opinions are incomplete. I'm not on social media, nor are lots of the people I know....and most of us (all Americans) thought the Curry address was disgraceful. The concept started out OK but the length, delivery, obvious ad-libbing after the first few minutes, and especially the showboating was intolerable.

From my trawling through social media, I get the opposite impression, that it's mostly non-Americans who thought the sermon (which it was, rather than an address) was alright and that it's mostly Americans that are finding fault with it. Plenty of us were just embarassed. Worse yet, I keep hearing about how this is typical American preaching--it isn't. There are even plenty of black preachers that do not embrace the Curry theatrical style, so you can lay those stereotypes to rest.

The problems with Curry were outlined fully and correctly by @aftershocks above; it became all about him and his "performance" rather than a tailored address focused on the couple and the event at hand. I think his delivery missed the mark and cut his effectiveness. While I think the outline of his remarks were approved by the couple and the Queen as required, I don't think any of them signed up for what they actually got.
 
Sheku Kanneh-Mason tweeted a clip of his sister, Isata, playing the end of Rachmaninov's 2nd Piano Concerto in rehearsal -- hopefully soon a figure skater will be skating to hacked up excerpts of her playing :). (Hmmm, paging Wilkinson/Boyadji...)

https://twitter.com/ShekuKM/status/997902932820586498

I hope this is Kanneh-Mason's Kiri Te Kanawa moment on steroids -- for her pre-social media -YouTube performance, we needed re-runs and VCRs at the time -- and what a lovely gesture to Prince Charles, an amateur cellist.
 
ballettmaus said:
(Why did Oprah have to have a dress made overnight? :confused:)
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I read that the original dress was white, which is traditionally not ok, though I gather that the "rule" is not a big deal anymore in the US.

I didn't love Oprah's dress -- it seemed choppy. Some diagonal draping would have been prettier, imo.

I'm surprised at so many female guests who wore dark and dreary colors. Other than the slit down the front, Sullen Spice would have been fit for a funeral.
 
I didn't watch the wedding so don't have an opinion on how the sermon was delivered but do have an opinion on who it is to be addressed/appreciated. IMO, the only people that it needs to be meaningful in how it was delivered are Meghan and Harry. It's meant to be for them.
Presumably, Meghan and Harry planned the wedding they wanted and invited the rest of the attendees including the televised audience to share in their day.
 
jiejie said:
Please, no. You are so wrong.
Maybe you're not looking at the right social media, or maybe you should consider that social media opinions are incomplete. I'm not on social media, nor are lots of the people I know....and most of us (all Americans) thought the Curry address was disgraceful. The concept started out OK but the length, delivery, obvious ad-libbing after the first few minutes, and especially the showboating was intolerable.

From my trawling through social media, I get the opposite impression, that it's mostly non-Americans who thought the sermon (which it was, rather than an address) was alright and that it's mostly Americans that are finding fault with it. Plenty of us were just embarassed. Worse yet, I keep hearing about how this is typical American preaching--it isn't. There are even plenty of black preachers that do not embrace the Curry theatrical style, so you can lay those stereotypes to rest.

The problems with Curry were outlined fully and correctly by @aftershocks above; it became all about him and his "performance" rather than a tailored address focused on the couple and the event at hand. I think his delivery missed the mark and cut his effectiveness. While I think the outline of his remarks were approved by the couple and the Queen as required, I don't think any of them signed up for what they actually got.
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Oh please:rofl:

You are trawling though the wrong social media, my friend. In my review, Americans adore Bishop Curry, no one is embarrassed by him, and more people are coming to our churches. Yes! :40beers:So what people on a FS Board think really doesn’t matter to me, as long as what was preached was heard. Because it is a *religious* ceremony. In a *church*. ETA: So darned tootin it was preaching, what else should it be? In the finest African American tradition, at least of the churches I have attended in Eastern PA. And as bonus, we get more folks in the pews. :)

And as someone from a long line of stiff upper lip Irish Anglicans, I think finding Bp. Curry to be too theatrical or too “long” says way more about the very few sad and angry posters I saw on social media saying that than it does about him.
Kind of like saying Jason Brown is “too happy” or “too smiley”. Like, huh???

And since this is not some store front preacher, but a bishop whose sermons are well publicized and all over the Internet, if the Royal Family didn’t know what they were getting, that’s on them. But Meghan knew. And judging from her reaction, she loved it. And since it’s her wedding, that’s all that counts;)
 
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I'm not a fan of bling on a wedding dress so I thought Meghan's was gorgeous. I would have liked it to be a little more form-fitting on her & a little white-on-white embroidery wouldn't have hurt but it was still beautiful. And the veil was exquisite. I expect that most of that $270,000 price tag was for the veil. 53 hand-embroidered flowers have to cost a lot.
 
KCC said:
I'm just now watching & listening to the young man playing the cello. Just beautiful! (And I like his fun socks, too.)
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About his socks: https://www.romper.com/p/the-cellis...-prove-he-was-ready-to-steal-the-show-9145077

For anyone who wants to warch or re-watch, I've cued up the official royal wedding YT stream to start with the cellist's performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N42MQJX4KoY&t=113m0s
Sylvia said:
During the Signing of the Register the following is played by Mr Sheku Kanneh-Mason [eta: 19-year-old cellist] and the Orchestra:
Sicilienne Maria Theresia von Paradis (1759–1824) arr. Chris Hazell (b.1948)
Après un rêve Gabriel Fauré (1845–1924) arr. Chris Hazell
Ave Maria Franz Schubert (1797–1828) arr. Chris Hazell
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skatesindreams said:
I hope you are able to access this:
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/the-kanneh-masons-the-family-that-plays-together/
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Thank you, @skatesindreams! :) I missed the CBS This Morning broadcast this morning and this 9-minute video plays for me - what an enjoyable profile on a talented family of classical musicians!! (only the seventh and youngest sibling, age 8, currently is not studying at Royal Academy of Music, senior or junior)
 
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taf2002 said:
I'm not a fan of bling on a wedding dress so I thought Meghan's was gorgeous. I would have liked it to be a little more form-fitting on her & a little white-on-white embroidery wouldn't have hurt but it was still beautiful. And the veil was exquisite. I expect that most of that $270,000 price tag was for the veil. 53 hand-embroidered flowers have to cost a lot.
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I wonder what it would have cost if it had fit her a little better.
 
I also had no problem with the fit of the dress -- I thought it looked lovely. Since my TV is tiny, ancient, and definitely low res, I've been enjoying seeing detailed photos online, especially the ones from the BBC, which had a great article about the dress, veil, tiara, bouquet, and even a bit about the shoes. About that exquisite veil -- hundreds of hours for embroidering the 55 flowers, with the seamstresses taking a break to wash their hands every 30 minutes.

ETA: I loved Doria Ragland's attire. There was one photo of her leaving the chapel with Prince Charles and Camilla, and the contrast between her outfit and Camilla's did Camilla no favors.
 
What I loved about the Royal wedding is that when all is said and done - they are family! I fell in love with Doria and was so touched just watching her take it all in. I am not sure why she was seemingly sitting alone but somehow, it felt right, as the bond between a mother and the child she has known since before birth, is second to none. We all know the royal family has had some very trying times but it felt like they were all so solidly thrilled for their beloved grandson, son, step son, brother, cousin, whatever. Charles, escorting Meghan those last few steps, also seemed quite appropriate to me. I am sure she wanted her own father to be with her but under the circumstances it felt like such a loving, accepting gesture. She is now one of them. Princess Charlotte's winsome waves and Prince George's pout were also so endearing. My youngest daughter married young to a man who should have been a good choice but it soon became apparent they were not suited at all and she divorced him after having two young boys. She has recently remarried to a wonderful man. I dream of the day, impossible as it seems now, that we might put hurt and hard feelings aside and be there for her two boys as they reach milestones in their lives.
 
Having read through this thread, I must say that I am astonished how many posters have apparently never been to a church wedding. You folks need to diversify your social circles.

aftershocks said:
Skittl1321 said:
Have you been to a historically black church before?
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I grew up in an African-American family and culture, and I've attended many black churches.
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Snap! :respec: :notworthy:
 
Vagabond said:
Having read through this thread, I must say that I am astonished how many posters have apparently never been to a church wedding. You folks need to diversify your social circles.
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I have. The priest was funny and engaging. Unlike a Jewish wedding it started on the dot, which was a cultural shock to me.
 
jiejie said:
Please, no. You are so wrong.
Maybe you're not looking at the right social media, or maybe you should consider that social media opinions are incomplete.
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Maybe you should follow your own advice.

Btw, the Washington Post disagreed with your assessment:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...el-curry-from-chicago/?utm_term=.7c1c5a459805

https://www.washingtonpost.com/vide...7bcc1327f4b_video.html?utm_term=.ef73777ba1bb

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ente...7bcc1327f4b_story.html?utm_term=.8abd782bd55d
 
Vagabond said:
Having read through this thread, I must say that I am astonished how many posters have apparently never been to a church wedding. You folks need to diversify your social circles.

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We Episcopalians run into that a lot. You mean that beautiful stone structure with the red doors isn't a *museum*, where I can just nod off to general platitudes and Olde English words;). You like, are going to talk about God????"
I tend to think "Meghan and Harry were uncomfortable at Bishop Curry's sermon" equals "*I* was uncomfortable, with all that, like, God talk. Like where's the Olde English words?":D

And some headlines from African American blogs and press

Michael Curry brought chu'ch up into the Royal Wedding, and we're all here for it (The Grio)

https://thegrio.com/2018/05/19/bishop-michael-curry/

A Black Preacher Gave a Word, and four other Blackity-Black moments from the Royal Wedding (the Root)

https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/a-black-preacher-gave-a-word-and-4-other-blackity-blac-1826164868

How Meghan Markle made sure her blackness was represented at the Royal Wedding (Essence)

https://www.essence.com/celebrity/royal-wedding-meghan-markle-black-african-american-representation

Royal Wedding gets a little Black Girl magic and a black sermon (Detroit Free Press)

https://www.freep.com/story/news/co...edding-global-classroom-power-love/626988002/

Before I get accused of going on too long, I'll stop here:lol:
 
IceAlisa said:
I have. The priest was funny and engaging. Unlike a Jewish wedding it started on the dot, which was a cultural shock to me.
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ROFL. I have been known to invite people to dinner at “Jewish 6:30” which is 7.

My daughter’s wedding started 15 minutes past announced time, meaning the WASPs were impatient and the Jews were still in the ladies’ room.
 
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