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That was a lovely wedding the only jarring note was the address that turned into full blown sermon by Bishop Curry. It was clear that even Meghan was a little embarrassed by the length and some of it's content. Apart from that it was really beautiful. And love how Charlotte loves to wave :D
 
That was a lovely wedding the only jarring note was the address that turned into full blown sermon by Bishop Curran. It was clear that even Meghan was a little embarrassed by the length and some of it's content. Apart from that it was really beautiful. And love how Charlotte loves to wave :D
I didn't see it clear that she was embarrassed by it.

That seemed pretty standard for a wedding with a sermon to me. No doubt he was told how much time he could have at a tightly scripted event.

Granted I had a Catholic, not Anglican wedding, but the homily from the priest was about the Gospel, it wasn't an "address" it was part of the mass that my wedding took place in. As an extremely important bishop he was sharing a message of religion to meditate on as they entered their marriage. It was appropriate and the delivery was tied to her culture.

If you watch his sermons on YouTube, that was pretty on brand. They knew what they would be getting
 
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So Meghan looked beautiful as always (she could wear a sack and still look good). I liked the simplicity and elegant cut of her dress. But ... it seemed like the top of the dress was not very well fitted on her. It looked a bit loose in the chest and arm areas, like there was too much material. I think the dress would have looked better if it had been tailored more closely. Otherwise she looked beautiful though, and I loved the tiara.
 
I didn't see it clear that she was embarrassed by it.

That seemed pretty standard for a wedding with a sermon to me. No doubt he was told how much time he could have at a tightly scripted event.

I saw her glance across at Harry a couple of times with a look which to me was a tiny bit of embarrassment in it. But hey we all read body language differently.

And it was suppose to be an address not a sermon.
 
I saw her glance across at Harry a couple of times with a look which to me was a tiny bit of embarrassment in it. But hey we all read body language differently.

And it was suppose to be an address not a sermon.

Maybe she was embarrassed for his family who she knew would be made into GIFS while trying to contain their giggles at being exposed to a new style of preaching?

I just don't think anyone who has ever heard him speak before would be even a tiny but surprised by what he said. She picked him. He's the head of eh Episcopal Church in the US. It's not like he is an unknown entity and this was a big surprise.

Have you never chuckled at what was said at a wedding. I know mine had a big laugh when the line a good wife is a quiet wife was read.
 
The Most Reverend Michael Curry isn't "just any" Bishop.
He is the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church in the USA.
Requested by Meghan.

It was an extraordinary ceremony.
A reflection of their love and commitment to each other; as well as to the work they will be doing.

The ceremony was beautiful, the couple are extraordinary, and nothing can take away from the depth of their love and their bond. The Kingdom Choir's rendition of Stand By Me was wonderful and moving to witness. I found Curry a bit OTT and unnecessarily scene-stealing and stepping on his own message, rather than crafting his message in a powerful and eloquent way that put the couple first.

I had read when Curry was first announced as the speaker that Archbishop Welby had suggested Curry (who had recently been appointed head of the Episcopal Church of the USA). Curry was previously not known by either Meghan or Harry. Obviously they did both meet Curry in the lead-up to their wedding. But they didn't have any knowledge of him previously. They simply went along with Archbishop Welby's recommendation.

There may have been a feeling by Welby that since Meghan's father was raised Episcopalian, it would be a nice touch to include the current head of ECUSA, particularly since he happens to be African-American. I doubt Meghan was raised Episcopalian. More likely Meghan went to a Protestant Church as a child. Her maternal grandfather was a Baptist minister. The Episcopal Church is the American equivalent of the Anglican Church, so that connection was surely also part Welby's thinking.
 
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I am Episcopalian and Bishop Curry is our PB.

I don’t consider him conservative, he is liberal politically and theologically, representative of our denomination. ETA: certainly compared to the anti LGBT crowd, which unfortunately still makes noise

And I LOVED it. Preach it, Bishop, preach.:cheer2: That was very short and toned down for a Bp. Curry sermon. Meaghan knew exactly what she was getting and loved it too.
That *is* a wedding sermon in the African American tradition of our church, and if you don’t want it, don’t invite Bishop Curry. Which would be your loss;)
 
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I've only seen pictures online so far. We DVR'd it but I haven't watched any of it yet. Thoughts so far:

Veil was gorgeous, dress ok, tiara fantastic
Children absolutely adorable, esp Charlotte
Best dressed - Doria, Pippa, Serena (best she's ever looked IMO), Kate, Eugenia & Beatrice, Spencer cousin (forgot her name), Amal Clooney, the Queen, pretty much everyone except Harry's old GFs.

I wondered about Meghan's veil over her face. I thought that was only done in 1st marriages. I hate that tradition anyway.
 
Best dressed - Doria, Pippa, Serena (best she's ever looked IMO), Kate, Eugenia & Beatrice, Spencer cousin (forgot her name), Amal Clooney, the Queen, pretty much everyone except Harry's old GFs.
Lady Kitty Spencer.

I just can't get behind the mullet hem on Amal Clooney's dress. Why ruin such a beautiful look? Eugenie's dress was too casual (yes, I know it was bespoke). Doria Ragland looked stunning. Kate recycled one of her better outfits. Carole Middleton looked stylish as always.

Of the Suits cast: Gina Torres!
 
Geez I'm listening to an American who married into the UK aristocracy - goodness only knows what her name is but God she's awful. Apparently we Brits don't go down to breakfast in our pjs and Meghan is going to have to learn to eat with a knife and fork as Americans only eat with a fork in their right hand.:rolleyes:
 
She's an accomplished woman in her thirties who is now a Duchess. She can do whatever she wants.
It’s an ironic thing to say, considering she had just entered one of the most covered and regulated families. She can do what she wants as long as she doesn’t do the million things forbidden to a British royal
 
To await, with pleasure:
Meghan will make a speech at tonight's reception
From CNN’s Max Foster in Windsor
The Duchess of Sussex, Meghan Markle, will make a speech at the evening reception, Kensington Palace tells CNN’s Max Foster.
The smaller evening reception is for around 200 friends and family hosted by Prince Charles, Harry's father, at Frogmore House, a country house south of Windsor Castle.
 
I think Bishop Curry was one of the best parts of the ceremony.

Who wants the same old, same old blah blah blah boring reverend sermon?

I thought it was priceless to see him giving a sermon to the Royals.

You GO Bishop Curry!

Curry went overboard either with over-excitement or over-enthusiasm. As written, his message of the importance of love is right, but his delivery and posturing made it more about him than about the couple. Fortunately, the wedding itself and the star power of the couple and power of the meaning behind their union withstood Bishop Curry's grandstanding. If Bishop Curry hadn't overstepped the bounds, but rather delivered a powerful and effective address, then the 'Stand By Me,' rendition might not have been lumped together with his address as off-putting to royal traditions. The Kingdom Choir was very moving, and I felt they hit all the right notes. It was a song chosen by Meghan and Harry and it was beautifully sung.

If Curry had truly been an effective and powerful speaker (in the vein of MLK, Obama, Bill Clinton, and even Oprah Winfrey), there would be no need for people taking up for him, and others trying to soft-peddle the amused, shocked and uncomfortable looks on some faces. Curry IMO was disappointing, while the overall wedding, the venue, and the couple's love for each other was transporting. The mistake is equating Curry's grandstanding as a reflection of black culture. If he'd delivered a powerful and eloquent message focusing more on the couple, the spirit would have moved everyone. AMEN.
 
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It’s an ironic thing to say, considering she had just entered one of the most covered and regulated families. She can do what she wants as long as she doesn’t do the million things forbidden to a British royal
I don't get the sense that QE2 cares much about Meghan's hair.

There are protocols that the royals follow, but this still leaves quite a bit of room for one's own style, approach and priorities. Meghan and Harry's wedding suggests that they'll find their own way as a royal couple - and given that he's not a future king, they should have more scope for that than Will and Kate.
 
I think Doria is my best-dressed pick for the guests, too. Her dress-and-coat ensemble checked all the boxes--flattering, attractive, beautifully made. And with the embroidery, it was a bit creative, without being too adventurous. I think it's hard to strike the right fashion look for royal weddings--you want to look festive and nice, but not stand out too much or wear anything too bizarre. (This is not the Met Costume gala event. :lol: ) I also think lighter colors feel the most appropriate for a spring afternoon wedding.
 
I don't get the sense that QE2 cares much about Meghan's hair.

There are protocols that the royals follow, but this still leaves quite a bit of room for one's own style, approach and priorities. Meghan and Harry's wedding suggests that they'll find their own way as a royal couple - and given that he's not a future king, they should have more scope for that than Will and Kate.
Yes, I think they will have more freedom relatively to William and Kate, and yet the various and sundry rules apply to them all. I have recently read an article that enumerated them. Her days of doing exactly what she wants are over. For instance, she can’t finish her meal if the Queen has stopped eating.
 
Curry went overboard either with over-excitement or over-enthusiasm. As written, his message of the importance of love is right, but his delivery and posturing made it more about him than about the couple, unfortunately. The wedding itself and the star power of the couple and power of the meaning behind their union withstands Bishop Curry's grandstanding.

If Curry had truly been an effective and powerful speaker (in the vein of MLK, Obama, Bill Clinton, and even Oprah Winfrey), there would be no need for people taking up for him, and others trying to soft-peddle the amused, shocked and uncomfortable looks on some faces. Curry IMO was disappointing, the wedding and the couple's love for each other was transporting. The mistake is equating Curry's grandstanding as a reflection of black culture. If he'd delivered a powerful and eloquently delivered message, the spirit would have moved everyone. AMEN.

Have you been to a historically black church before? I didn't see this as posturing or grandstanding. It was very much like when I went to church with my friends growing up in the south. And very much like every video I see of him preaching. It wasn't an act for the wedding.

Obama may be a powerful black speaker, but he is not a black preacher. Of course their speeches would be different.
 

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