Hold on to your fascinators, it could be a snarky ride! It's Royal Wedding Day! Wheeee!

[aftershocks]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...-cressida-bonas-attend-his-wedding/625612002/

^^ Pictures and discussion of Chelsy and Cressida. I noticed Chelsy live, but I didn't see Cressida when she arrived. Both looked stylishly and comfortably dressed, as well as fairly relaxed, albeit with some underlying nerves.

That quote by Chelsy I've heard before (about the difficulty of dealing with the OTT media attention and paps). However, this is the first time I've seen her quoted as saying the bolded part:

"I found it tough. ... It’s not something you get used to. That part was quite hectic, it’s not like that any more."

Hopefully, Chelsy doesn't mean to imply that the media pressure is less these days than it was when she was dating Prince Harry. Probably, she was merely sighing with relief that she is not experiencing that intensity anymore. It's obviously still very intense for Meghan and previously has been for whomever Harry chose to date, albeit that Harry has learned from his prior relationships about the importance of tight security to keep the over-intensity at bay as much as possible. But that still doesn't deter the tabloids from writing made-up trash, and hounding their target's relatives and former friends.

 

[Lorac]

Meghan probably lost a bit of weight in the months leading up to the wedding, and she's been said to have had several re-fittings of her wedding dress as a result. I didn't notice anything ill-fitting with Meghan's wedding dress though. It had simple, classic lines with a boatneck bodice. Like the majority of her sartorial choices, it worked beautifully for her. Her style is casual, elegant and understated yet always appropriate, albeit not always what others like for her. Kate had also lost a lot of weight in the lead-up to her wedding, like many brides do.

Here's the white halter dress by McCartney, for the evening reception. Again, it looks great on Meghan:
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celeb...dleton-second-royal-wedding-dresses-compared/

Thanks for that but I am going to get really pissed off really quickly if we keep getting comparisons to Kate in a derogatory manner on a regular basis. Kate looked lovely in her evening gown for her 2nd wedding reception yet according to that article she was over dressed.

 

[skatesindreams]

The other unforgettable portion of the wedding was the young cellist.
What a privilege to hear him!
I'm grateful that Meghan called him; and that he was able to re-arrange his schedule.

 

[oleada]

Chelsy Davy arrived with her brother. At times, she seemed pensive, and somewhat overly eager to appear relaxed, which is understandable. It's nice of Prince Harry to invite two of his more serious former girlfriends. I missed seeing Cressida Bonas and Priyanka Chopra during the arrival of guests. I now see that they were both present. Priyanka looked stunning, particularly with the hat she wore. I also love that gorgeous mustard-yellow outfit with hat that Amal Clooney wore.

Initially, I think Victoria Beckham looked a bit peeved walking into the church because she and her hubby were walking a bit behind Amal and George Clooney. Amal was an absolute standout with what she was wearing, while Victoria was elegant and stylish but overshadowed in Amal's wake.
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Victoria always looks like that. She hates her own smile. #formerspicegirlsuber

 

[skatefan]

I think Bishop Curry was one of the best parts of the ceremony.

Who wants the same old, same old blah blah blah boring reverend sermon?

I thought it was priceless to see him giving a sermon to the Royals.

You GO Bishop Curry!

Complete disagree. It was patronising and political imo.

 

[aftershocks]

Thanks for that but I am going to get really pissed off really quickly if we keep getting comparisons to Kate in a deritigary manner on a regular basis. Kate looked lovely in her evening gown for her 2nd wedding reception yet according to that article she was over dressed.

I completely disagree with the article's implication. I'm sorry I linked it. I hadn't read it closely. Kate and Meghan obviously have different styles, that are in some ways complimentary to each other, instead of 'better than.' I was merely trying to locate a picture of Meghan's evening dress. And I certainly was not making a negative comparison between Kate and Meghan with my comment. That stuff gets so old fast. I realize some people try to keep stirring a competition up online. OTOH, there are many royal followers who equally admire Kate and Meghan. I think both royal Duchesses will continue to have each other's backs.

Many royal fans forget to take a step back and realize that we can't believe everything we read about the royals, and that whatever knowledge we think we have could be inaccurate in whole or in part. As Harry said during the engagement interview: "People think they know me..." That's a result sometimes of remembering the day he was born, and having watched him grow up, and feeling some familiarity with his personality. Still, we aren't privy to what the royals are like in private, nor to their inner circle relationships.

 

[Frida80]

I was mostly following on twitter, but reading this thread was great too. I'm still over the moon of everything. I still can't over the moment he first saw her. Once he teared up, it finally did me in.

I think all men are currently mad at Harry, because he just set the bar so high.

 

[Loves_Shizuka]

I think Serena Williams nailed both her day and this night outfit:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi9_HushVdx/?utm_source=ig_embed

Looks fab

 

[Lorac]

I think Serena Williams nailed both her day and this night outfit:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi9_HushVdx/?utm_source=ig_embed

Looks fab

Agreed. That evening dress is gorgeous.

 

[aftershocks]

...

Obama may be a powerful black speaker, but he is not a black preacher. Of course their speeches would be different.

I wouldn't characterize President Obama as 'a powerful black speaker.' He's simply a powerful and eloquent speaker. Full stop. Just like AdaRipp noted that the headlines about him changed from 'Gay Olympic athlete,' finally to 'Olympic medal-winning athlete, Adam Rippon.' No need for stereotypical labeling. Obama doesn't need to be a 'black preacher.' I'll bet anything though that Obama (as well as Oprah Winfrey) could have delivered a bang-on, boffo wedding address for Meghan & Harry (not only because Obama knows Harry well either). It's because Obama is a good writer, and a thoughtful, reflective speaker who understands his audience, and the importance of conveying an appropriate and resonant message effectively. The same goes for Oprah.

The problem for Curry is that he approached his wedding address as if he felt that he was there to perform and pose in an over-dramatic fashion, rather than meet the moment with eloquence. No matter how good you feel Curry is on those Youtube video sermons, keep in mind that this was a royal wedding, not an opportunity for Sunday morning sermonizing and making overwrought political statements. I think Archbishop Welby's reasoning for recommending Curry was well-intentioned, but faulty. I'd rather have seen the black female minister, who offered that brief prayer, be the one to have given the ceremonial address for the happy couple. I agree that some speeches at traditional royal weddings can be boring, but they don't have to be if well-crafted with the couple themselves kept in mind, front-and-center. The same goes for a non-traditional guest minister such as Bishop Curry. Although he was not boring, I found his OTT delivery annoying and disappointing. The spirit wasn't moving him. As I said earlier, he over-wroughtly and ineffectually tried to move it. He went off the rails and lost me, so I will have to go back and look at a transcript of everything he said (some of which was overly repetitive). IOW, he failed to hit the sweet spot with his message and his delivery.

 

[Sylvia]

Was there a seating chart published of that front part of the church where people had assigned seats?

Found one here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itting-best-seats-Harry-Meghans-marriage.html

 

[aftershocks]

According to the British commentators on CNN, it was approved by HMQ, in any case.

HMQ likely approved a transcript of Bishop Curry's remarks. As I said, his well-intentioned words are not the problem. It's the lack of focus and the excessive shouting, which is not needed when the spirit is sublimely moving a preacher, as opposed to a preacher trying too hard. This, added to Curry's off-track ad-libbing, led to him missing the mark. If Curry hadn't missed the mark, he and Archbishop Welby wouldn't have needed to be awkwardly questioned afterward. Everyone would be simply singing praises with tears in their eyes rather than hemming and hawing, defending and soft-pedaling. Similar to when Mrs. Obama once affectionately touched the Queen (which goes against protocol), the Queen is not going make a fuss about Curry's less than stellar wedding address.

Harry and Meghan are clearly on Cloud 9 and nothing is fazing them. Curry tried to reign it back in a bit, and then he resorted to humor when the congregation became restless. Harry and Meghan laughed it off. Many attendees were likely relieved when Curry brought his remarks to a close. No matter a preacher's ethnic background, there can be eloquent, resonant preaching in whatever rousing style, and then there can be over-dramatic posturing that misses the mark.

To each their own. In addition to the Kingdom Choir, and the memorable moments that shone between Meghan and Harry, I completely fell in love with the accomplished young cellist. His performance was divine.

 

[Sylvia]

The young cellist Sheku Kanneh-Mason tweeted these photos: https://twitter.com/ShekuKM/status/997889043533910016

And retweeted this almost 10-min. video of his performance: https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/997815912773312512

 

[Loves_Shizuka]

Kanneh-Mason's cello performance was stunning. Real goosebumps moment for me.

Also, he's from the same town as me (Nottingham) You did us proud boy!

 

[liv]

Loved it.

I had tears upon seeing *the boys* arriving in their uniforms, thinking how happy I was for Harry.
I had tears seeing how Prince Philip walked unassisted after hip surgery which he got to be able to walk here (working in rehab myself, I was so proud of how well he has done in 6 weeks)
Amal, Priyanka looked great.
Lady Kitty Spencer is gorgeous... that skin!!!7
The York sisters got it right, unlike at William's wedding.
The flowers outside the entrance... lovely!
The twin Mulroney page boys... absolutely hilarious grins travelling with Meghan and entering the chapel, lol!!
Doria Ragland... proud mum!!
Meghan chose the right tiara for her and I guessed right about the gown. I told people yesterday it would be simple with no bling and it would beclassic... and it was. I mean, why fake bling on a dress when you can wear real, historic bling on your head? CNN had a critic who thought it was plain and I just laughed at her. Meghan has worn classic cuts in the past, so why change?
Not a fan of Curry, the sermon giver. Ok, the right message, but way too long and you could tell he was enjoying it too much. He was performing and it turned me off...I LOVED the look Zara Tindall was making... perfect WTH face.
Loved the young cellist. Talented young man.
Harry's face when she walked up the aisle... he is so in love!!!
Loved Meghan's second dress too. Elegant, not flashy, which is what I expect from her.

I think it was a beautiful wedding with perfect weather, stunning location.... just a happy day for all. I hope everything works out for them.

 

[overedge]

Complete disagree. It was patronising and political imo.

Kind of hard to talk about things that love can change without getting into the "political". I don't see what was patronizing about that. And yes, @liv, he was performing. So is the minister who stands up there and calmly reads the sermon. It's all performing.

Personally, as an Anglican, I thought it was great to see the acknowledgement of diversity within the Church - the recognition that that not all ministers within the same faith have to preach in the same way. I really enjoyed the Bishop's enthusiasm, his passion, his knowledge of Scripture, and his message. And as for the guests in the audience going -well, wake up to the fact that there's more than one way to preach.

 

[overedge]

Lady Kitty Spencer.

Who is that standing next to her? Could she at least have washed her hair for the big event?

 

[ballettmaus]

Is there any reason why William and Harrry wore different uniforms to William's wedding and the same one to Harry's or would it be merely a matter of William having had no preference as to what Harry wore while Harry might have asked him to wear this uniform?

 

[Sylvia]

Is there any reason why William and Harrry wore different uniforms to William's wedding and the same one to Harry's or would it be merely a matter of William having had no preference as to what Harry wore while Harry might have asked him to wear this uniform?

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a15053249/prince-harry-wedding-outfit/

ETA: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/style/prince-harry-william-uniforms.html

The palace describes Prince Harry’s outfit:
The badge on the left chest is Pilots’ Wings attained whilst serving with the Army Air Corps for flying Apache helicopters. The four medal ribbons below the Wings are, from left to right: K.C.V.O., Afghanistan with rosette, The Queen’s Golden Jubilee and The Queen’s Diamond Jubilee.
Prince William has his own badges:
The Wings are those attained flying helicopters whilst serving with the RAF, the two medals below from left to right are: Queen’s Golden Jubilee and Queen’s Diamond Jubilee.
The Duke of Cambridge is also wearing the Garter Star.
As an Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty The Queen, The Duke is wearing the EIIR cyphers on his shoulder straps along with a gold Aiguillette on his right shoulder.

More info on the other Royal Family members' attire: https://www.royal.uk/members-royal-family-have-arrived-wedding-prince-harry-and-ms-meghan-markle

 

[Aussie Willy]

Kanneh-Mason's cello performance was stunning. Real goosebumps moment for me.

Also, he's from the same town as me (Nottingham) You did us proud boy!

I can imagine that cello teachers are going to be in heavy demand after this and this guy is now a star.

I played cello so it was wonderful to see the instrument being played so beautifully. #cellosrock

 

[misskarne]

Kanneh-Mason's performance was absolutely divine, a real highlight.

Having a browse through social media this morning, it's interesting to see the split of opinions on Curry's sermon. The majority of people who seem to think it was fine are Americans. The majority of people who think it wasn't fine are non-Americans. Talk about a culture split.

I thought it was patronising, off-topic, repetitive, and over-the-top in delivery, and that the preacher seemed to forget it wasn't about him. Additionally, I feel like his message would have been much more effective if it had been delivered in about a quarter of the words. I also think if you have to start shouting you're not really making your point effectively.

I saw this morning that the sermon went for 12 minutes. It felt way longer last night, maybe because he did keep repeating the same things over and over.

 

[overedge]

The majority of people who seem to think it was fine are Americans. The majority of people who think it wasn't fine are non-Americans.

I'm clearly in the minority, then, as a non-American who thinks it was fine.

Bishop Curry has a different style of preaching, that's all. I've noticed that CoE ministers in the UK preach and conduct services quite differently than Anglican/Episcopal ministers in North America. And Bishop Curry is preaching in the style that's very common for the ministers in the tradition he's used to. None of those styles are wrong, they're just different.
The Church should be a big enough tent to contain them all.

 

[snoopy]

The only one who wowed me with their get up was prince Charles. He looked dapper.

Preachers are notorious attention hogs in the US. Does any other country other than Canada even have the concept of a televangelist?

 

[Lorac]

Is there any reason why William and Harrry wore different uniforms to William's wedding and the same one to Harry's or would it be merely a matter of William having had no preference as to what Harry wore while Harry might have asked him to wear this uniform?

William's wedding was more ceremonial and both the groom and best man wore highly ceremonial uniforms of the highest rank they both were at the time.

Harry wanted to wear the uniform of the Blues and Royals as that was the regiment he was part of when in Afghanistan. As he was no longer active in that regiment he had to request the Queen's permission to wear it. William followed suit as he would probably at the request of his brother. They were both the same rank - Major - the differences mainly being the Garter Star that William wore and additional gold Aiguillette on his right shoulder as he is Aide-de-Camp to the Queen.

 

[taf2002]

I just can't get behind the mullet hem on Amal Clooney's dress. Why ruin such a beautiful look?

I don't think that was a mullet hem. I think it was something separate (like a tail) that was attached to another part of her dress, probably her shoulder. I think everything about her look was stunning.

Yes, I think they will have more freedom relatively to William and Kate, and yet the various and sundry rules apply to them all. I have recently read an article that enumerated them. Her days of doing exactly what she wants are over. For instance, she can’t finish her meal if the Queen has stopped eating.

That rule about eating isn't just about the Queen. It is a rule of formal dinner parties. When the hostess stops eating everyone else does too. However, the hostess is supposed to look around & see if her guests need more time.

 

[skategal]

I'm clearly in the minority, then, as a non-American who thinks it was fine.

Bishop Curry has a different style of preaching, that's all. I've noticed that CoE ministers in the UK preach and conduct services quite differently than Anglican/Episcopal ministers in North America. And Bishop Curry is preaching in the style that's very common for the ministers in the tradition he's used to. None of those styles are wrong, they're just different.
The Church should be a big enough tent to contain them all.

I agree and I am also not American. Plus, my FB feed is full of other non-Americans who thought it was great!

 

[IceAlisa]

That rule about eating isn't just about the Queen. It is a rule of formal dinner parties. When the hostess stops eating everyone else does too. However, the hostess is supposed to look around & see if her guests need more time.

The Queen doesn’t look around. Per article she is a fast eater and insiders recommend keeping pace or you will leave the table hungry

 

[Skittl1321]

That second dress was amazing.

Can anyone explain why Meghan's Mom was in the second, not first row? I assume it was an honor to be in the Queen's position on the other side, but 2nd row seems weird.

 

[Skittl1321]

The Queen doesn’t look around. Per article she is a fast eater and insiders recommend keeping pace or you will leave the table hungry

But they so rarely eat with the Queen it's not like it is a huge restriction on one's life.

 

[overedge]

Preachers are notorious attention hogs in the US. Does any other country other than Canada even have the concept of a televangelist?

Maybe not homegrown ones, but IIRC several of the American televangelist shows (e.g. Hour of Power) are broadcast in Europe and Asia, and do quite well in getting $$$$ from viewers there.