Hold on to your fascinators, it could be a snarky ride! It's Royal Wedding Day! Wheeee!

annie720 said:
Why does Victoria Beckham look like she's at a funeral?
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Not in those shoes.

IceAlisa said:
Yes, I think they will have more freedom relatively to William and Kate, and yet the various and sundry rules apply to them all. I have recently read an article that enumerated them. Her days of doing exactly what she wants are over. For instance, she can’t finish her meal if the Queen has stopped eating.
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I imagine that Meghan and Harry will eat most of their meals without the Queen.

Looking at Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie, it seems quite possible to be a British royal and still do your own thing.
 
clairecloutier said:
I think Doria is my best-dressed pick for the guests, too. Her dress-and-coat ensemble checked all the boxes--flattering, attractive, beautifully made. And with the embroidery, it was a bit creative, without being too adventurous. I think it's hard to strike the right fashion look for royal weddings--you want to look festive and nice, but not stand out too much or wear anything too bizarre. (This is not the Met Costume gala event. :lol: ) I also think lighter colors feel the most appropriate for a spring afternoon wedding.
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I missed Doria’s dress! Will try to find it. She’s a lovely looking woman, Meghan got her looks from her. She had tears in her eyes during most of the ceremony—touching
 
Skittl1321 said:
Have you been to a historically black church before? I didn't see this as posturing or grandstanding. It was very much like when I went to church with my friends growing up in the south. And very much like every video I see of him preaching. It wasn't an act for the wedding.

Obama may be a powerful black speaker, but he is not a black preacher. Of course their speeches would be different.
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I grew up in an African-American family and culture, and I've attended many black churches. Not all black preachers are great just because they are black. The best preachers know the power of resonant rise-and-fall vocal emphasis, as well as the power of silence and subtlety in their delivery (as opposed to OTT shouting, then reeling it back in, and then realizing you are going over your allowed time and desperately resorting to off-the-cuff humor). The most powerful message comes when a preacher allows the spirit to move them, instead of stomping on it, trying too hard and forgetting the focus of the sermon itself, which I thought was about an extraordinary couple who are deeply in love, getting married. Bishop Curry started out okay, but he quickly went too far off the rails, IMO.

Unfortunately, the right note was not hit by Curry, despite him intending to deliver a message of love and faith conquering all. Archbishop Welby's apparent well-meaning reasoning for recommending Curry backfired. IMO, it's not about shocked onlookers disliking a rousing sermon in a black church. Curry's over-enthusiastic grandstanding fell flat. He could have delivered a rousing sermon that was inspirational and profound about what the union between Harry and Meghan means for them, for Britain, and for people around the world, but he failed. Curry's posturing delivery veered off-track because it was tone deaf and seemed to focus on him feeling self-important, rather than hitting a home run for why everyone had gathered there. The ceremony was a celebration of the love of Meghan & Harry, and Curry failed to effectively tie that message together. So now, everyone is caught up in trying to defend the so-called melding of black culture with British royal culture. :duh:

When the presiding clergy (Curry and Welby) have to awkwardly explain and defend to the media what the message was that the main speaker was trying to deliver (in the aftermath of a royal wedding), then the message was not effectively crafted, much less well-delivered. Again, it's not about melding black culture with British royal culture either. It's about Curry striking out with good intentions.
 
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Thanks for the well reasoned response @aftershocks
I wouldn't think a black preacher is great just because they are black, but I'd be surprised a crappy preacher manages to rise to lead his denomination.

I liked the social justice sermon. I thought it fit with the interests of the couple.

I've certainly heard more bizarre at weddings.



Other thought...I'm enjoying photo captions. I saw one that was "Guest and Joss stone"

I also liked Chicago tribunes tweet. Northwestern grad marries British Guy
 
Skittl1321 said:
I liked the social justice sermon.
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Sure, but it wasn't effectively well-delivered, thus it missed the mark.

As I said, Bishop Curry's sermon as written had good intentions and some resonant elements he was trying to hit over the fences, but he ended up striking out IMHO. He came off to me as overly self-important and he also seemed to end up ad-libbing, which didn't work with the time constraints in this venue. Ad-libbing is okay if your words are effective and focused, and you remember the venue. The posing and posturing was unnecessary. It's not a problem bringing a spirit and flavor of a black church sermon to St. George's Chapel, but it doesn't work when you try to wrestle with the spirit and awkwardly attempt to jam it down the throats of a wedding congregation. IMO, Curry whiffed at the message he was trying to bring home.

No one is going to chastise Curry among the royals. But the expressions on some of their faces, IMO, is not because they are uncomfortable with down-home preaching. To me, they seemed uncomfortable with Curry's unfocused shouting, and his seeming to forget that the ceremony was about Meghan and Harry. :rolleyes:

I think it may have been possible to meld a down-home sermon within that royal venue, had the sermon been better-crafted and better focused (and less about Curry, more about Meghan and Harry).

I didn't say that bro' Curry is a crappy preacher. ;) He simply missed the mark, perhaps out of over-enthusiasm, over-reaching, and over-excitement, reminiscent of some of the network commentating too. :drama:
 
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Yehudi said:
My favorite was the woman in the orange dress who was walking with Priyanka Chopra. Can’t remember her name (it sounded Indian though)
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This one? If so, that's Janina Gavankar, I believe. I think she looks fantastic too.

Meghan's dress has grown on me a bit, the more I see it. I do notice the slightly ill-fitting areas, but what I found to be the 'worst' part of the dress is the material, which looked really heavy for a late-spring wedding IMO. I do see the Givenchy in the dress - if it was tea-length, I could absolutely see Audrey Hepburn wearing it. i thought she accessorized it really well (the simple earrings and bracelet), and I do still love the train.

Being Canadian, it kind of amuses me to see Ben Mulroney sitting right at the front of the church (basically Camilla's seat on the other side). I know they got those seats because of his wife's friendship with Meghan, and their kids adorably carrying the veil, but he's the annoying entertainment guy to me (basically Canada's Ryan Seacrest in a lot of ways).

Also, I'm glad Harry kept his beard. I always thought he was cute, but the beard makes him HOT! Apparently there were bets over whether he would shave. I never thought he would, but apparently the Queen hates facial hair (and Harry having now had his beard for a few years, to some is 'proof' that he's become her favourite). She had made him shave it off the first time he grew one (when he had done a trek to Antarctica with Walking with the Wounded).
 
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Yehudi said:
My favorite was the woman in the orange dress who was walking with Priyanka Chopra. Can’t remember her name (it sounded Indian though)
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Mine too. Best dressed guest IMO
 
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Chelsy Davy arrived with her brother. At times, she seemed pensive, and somewhat overly eager to appear relaxed, which is understandable. It's nice of Prince Harry to invite two of his more serious former girlfriends. I missed seeing Cressida Bonas and Priyanka Chopra during the arrival of guests. I now see that they were both present. Priyanka looked stunning, particularly with the hat she wore. I also love that gorgeous mustard-yellow outfit with hat that Amal Clooney wore.

Initially, I think Victoria Beckham looked a bit peeved walking into the church because she and her hubby were walking a bit behind Amal and George Clooney. Amal was an absolute standout with what she was wearing, while Victoria was elegant and stylish but overshadowed in Amal's wake.

Meghan and Harry look great together, and they seem over-the-moon to finally be married. Meghan stayed true to her style aesthetic, which works beautifully for her. It was initially speculated that Meghan might avoid lace and beading, and stay with something simple, classic and streamlined but elegant and fitting for the venue. And that's what she ended up doing. The fact that Harry appeared outside Ralph & Russo led to speculation Meghan would wear one of their heavily-beaded wedding dress designs, with lace. It may be that H&M wished to purposely throw people off the scent. Or else, Ralph & Russo are making other designs for Meghan for future events.

Meghan's evening dress is by Stella McCartney, and it's similarly elegant with clean lines, in a sleeveless halter style. Meghan does not do over-embellishment and frou-frou.
 
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aftershocks said:
Chelsy Davy arrived with her brother. At times, she seemed pensive, and somewhat overly eager to appear relaxed, which is understandable. It's nice of Prince Harry to invite two of his more serious former girlfriends. I missed seeing Cressida Bonas and Priyanka Chopra during the arrival of guests. I now see that they were both present. Priyanka looked stunning, particularly with the hat she wore. I also love that gorgeous mustard-yellow outfit with hat that Amal Clooney wore.

Initially, I think Victoria Beckham looked a bit peeved walking into the church because she and her hubby were walking a bit behind Amal and George Clooney. Amal was an absolute standout with what she was wearing, while Victoria was elegant and stylish but overshadowed in Amal's wake.
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Amal had my favorite look of the day. Simply gorgeous.
 
Zemgirl said:
Not in those shoes.


I imagine that Meghan and Harry will eat most of their meals without the Queen.
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That was just one example. There are many others, instructions on do’s and don’t in dress and behavior. She is now very privileged but with that comes a list of rules, the paparazzi, her royal duties, etc. And even though things have changed for the better since Diana, to say a royal can do what she wants is inaccurate.

However, I think Meghan will deal with this better than most. Her demeanor is very poised and calm
 
screech said:
She had made him shave it off the first time he grew one (when he had done a trek to Antarctica with Walking with the Wounded).
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Probably more likely that Harry indulged his loving, adamant grandmother's wishes that first time. ;) I don't particularly care for beards either, but if well-trimmed, beards work for some men. I think Harry's beard makes him look more mature. Clean-shaven, he looks more boyish. He had been keeping his hair and beard a tad scruffy at times, until he began dating Meghan and she helped him 'up his game.' :D
 
Dress#2 for the evening reception and the car they drove to it in.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex depart Windsor Castle for a reception hosted by The Prince of Wales at Frogmore House, in a silver blue Jaguar E-Type Concept Zero. This vehicle was originally manufactured in 1968, and has since been converted to electric power
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https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/997910298601410560
 
clairecloutier said:
it seemed like the top of the dress was not very well fitted on her. It looked a bit loose in the chest and arm areas, like there was too much material. I think the dress would have looked better if it had been tailored more closely.
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Meghan probably lost a bit of weight in the months leading up to the wedding, and she's been said to have had several re-fittings of her wedding dress as a result. I didn't notice anything ill-fitting with Meghan's wedding dress though. It had simple, classic lines with a boatneck bodice. Like the majority of her sartorial choices, it worked beautifully for her. Her style is casual, elegant and understated yet always appropriate, albeit not always what others like for her. ;) Kate had also lost a lot of weight in the lead-up to her wedding, like many brides do.

Here's the white halter dress by McCartney, for the evening reception. Again, it looks great on Meghan:
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celeb...dleton-second-royal-wedding-dresses-compared/
 
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