AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)
Get it Amber 😝
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Wow Starr is gonna go to 4CC!! Now the world gets to see 2 of our up and comers (well one is a Champ, lol)
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Yes ... as I said in the rest of my post ... "I'm about 60/40 on Ashley withdrawing from 4CC, but I'd rather Angela take Starr's place."![]()
Looks like I'm not alone in my opinion:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/01/ash...e-but-herself-for-not-making-the-olympic-team
Will Ashley actually go to 4CC this year?
This may not be popular here, but my two cents:
IMO, Ashley has coasted more than a bit on her past accomplishments and her presentation skills over the past 2 seasons and allowed the technical to slide, not good since the technical side was never her strong point. She simply has not been as good as she was at Worlds 2016 and the downward slide worsened this season. I think its possible she (and Raf, although that's not his style) saw her as a probable lock for team, especially with Gracie's withdrawal. But then came "Hurricane Bradie" at SA, throwing a huge wrench into the situation.
She also shot herself in the foot by competing as minimally as possible this season, and going back and forth on what program she would be skating. While one can argue at least to a small extent that she was low-balled in PCS at Nationals, in all honesty, the only person who prevented Ashley from making another Olympic team was Ashley herself. And I believe she knows that, and it's killing her. I think the smartest thing she could do right now is suck it up, go to 4CC and kick ice, and cheer her fellow skaters on in Pyeongchang. I love Ashley and wanted her on the team, but I hope she shuts up about the judging and doesn't take any further spotlight away from her fellow competitors. It's time to be there for Adam and be gracious, no matter how unfair she thinks it is.
Reality tells the story. From Facebook news to NBC, no one gives two craps about noodle arms Tennell, can't ever win Nagasu, and whatshername. All the stories this morning are about Ashley and bad judging. Maybe USFSA needs to do what Miss America did and bring in a president who actually accomplished something in the sport rather than some Olympic wanna be who never did anything.
President Kwan?
Reality tells the story. From Facebook news to NBC, no one gives two craps about noodle arms Tennell, can't ever win Nagasu, and whatshername. All the stories this morning are about Ashley and bad judging. Maybe USFSA needs to do what Miss America did and bring in a president who actually accomplished something in the sport rather than some Olympic wanna be who never did anything.
President Kwan?
Mirai is trending on twitter.Reality tells the story. From Facebook news to NBC, no one gives two craps about noodle arms Tennell, can't ever win Nagasu, and whatshername. All the stories this morning are about Ashley and bad judging. Maybe USFSA needs to do what Miss America did and bring in a president who actually accomplished something in the sport rather than some Olympic wanna be who never did anything.
President Kwan?
Well she didn’t go when you could say that it mattered, so I don’t see her going this time.
Lynn Rutherford's recap article includes quotes from the happy top 3: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2018/01/06/264356390"I started out (her career) very strongly, and as I've grown in the public eye, I've had my rough seasons," she said. "I've learned that being in the public eye has made me more determined to show I do want to be at the top. Sometimes I just get in my own way. The last Olympic cycle, I felt so disappointed in myself. I had so much regret."
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"I took on the full responsibility of being a stronger competitor and person," she said. "I wasn't going to let a decision that wasn't mine keep me from my dream."
Denise Myers on Tennell's FS:"I've always loved the challenge. I'm not one to back down from something hard," Tennell said. "I always enjoy performing, especially this (free) program, it's very close to my heart. I think I just went out there and it showed."
Nagasu:Prepared, and confident with their material. When Tennell brought Cinderella -- including a vocal to "A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes" as well as selections from the Prokofiev ballet -- to U.S. Figure Skating's Champs Camp this summer, some officials suggested she change the vocal to something more mature. After due consideration, Tennell stood her ground.
"We took the advice to heart," Myers said. "We tried 10 different versions and nothing was as good as the original (edited by Hugo Chouinard). So, we stuck with our plan."
Karen Chen:"I think tonight I went into this performance not expecting myself to be perfect," Nagasu, fourth in the U.S. last season, said. "I think I made that mistake last year. I was training strong, probably not as strong as this year, but I was fully capable of doing what I did tonight last year. Tonight I was prepared to make those mistakes and work around them. I knew I wanted to be tired at the end of the night and to push through it and that's exactly what I did."
"Yesterday [Thursday] I was unable to practice and was really sick, stuck in bed," Chen said. "I caught a virus or something. I couldn't sleep at all after the short (on Wednesday). I was up all night in a lot of discomfort. All morning I had body aches and pains."
Chen, who hails from nearby Fremont, talked to her sports psychologist and visited her acupuncturist.
"I did all the steps I could so I would feel better today," she said. "A lot of it was mental strength. I had to stay as positive as I could and keep thinking to myself, 'I trained so hard for this moment, I don't want to regret it, I can't let this cold or virus win.' I repeated it over and over until I believed it, and I just skated with my heart."
Looks like I'm not alone in my opinion:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/01/ash...e-but-herself-for-not-making-the-olympic-team
Karen's positive response: https://twitter.com/Karebearsk8/status/949680256247410689Ashley's tweet ...
As an athlete, I'm allowed to be mad. As a senior competitor with over 10 years of experience, I'm allowed to question things. At the end of the day, I laid out my best and I'm going home proud! Congrats to the lovely ladies of the team, you've got me in your cheering squad now!
So do fans. A couple friends and I were discussing the ladies last night. One is mostly an every four years fan but she follows it enough to dislike Wagner. The other hasn't really followed skating in the last decade and has no cable TV so she has to be sent links. So, last night she looked up the top US ladies programs on YouTube and immediately thought Ashley was dressed and acting "like a whore" on ice but that she "did pretty good", so I took it upon myself to find some links to better versions of Hip Hip Chin Chin to show her, which she watched and once she saw those, she could see the difference in the performance levels. Point is, if even a casual fan, watching a couple of different performances of the same program, can see the level of quality was lackluster on Wednesday, then you can be assured the judges knew it too. We all said it that night, and folks who were in the arena reported the same. It isn't a matter of hating on Ashley or wanting her to be dumped (frankly, Tennell does nothing for me) but being honest about the quality of Ashley's skating. She just wasn't all that great this week.¨Since she’s done Hip Hip Chin Chin so many times, judges know how good it can be¨
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Real people don't presume to tell others how to judge them.Lastly Twitter, before you eat me alive, don't forget there is a real person on the other end of your tweets.
I forgot to mention that I wish Amber Glenn had received an assignment. I really like her jumps and nice skating. She just needs some more experience and I hope she gets a spring assignment.
I know this isn't an important part of BOW [but should be], however Bradie and Mirai had the highest scores in front of international judging panels this season on the GP circuit and both finished 1-2 here. Mariah was no. 3 with a 188 at RC.
I honestly feel like if anyone got hosed here it was Mariah. She fell on a rotated 2A [I know, dumb move] but Karen got a DG and various UR problems, and Ashley popped a jump, then UR'd / 2-footed the 3Z which is more egregious in TES. I know that doesn't matter because Mariah beat them both in TES, so you have to consider PCS: Mariah skates with speed and power just like Karen [I can't compare one against the other but both are fast], but for me, Mariah's movements are cleaner and better defined. Ashley 'performs' better than anyone else and that is part of PCS, but Mariah shines and sparkles when she is on and is faster and more sure-footed, so in this sense, IDK how to break it down in PCS between the 3 - maybe it's a wash when you consider the different categories of PCS. So, Mariah beats them both on TES and should've been 3rd.
ETA - I glanced at the PCS: Karen - 69, Ashley - 68, Mariah - 62. Isn't that gap a little much?
100%. I don't get where people think those simple, slow, plodding programs with almost nil expression are going to do well in front of an international panel.
The PCS for Nigasu remind me a lot of the year Ryan Bradley was pushed up to the National title, and then he went to Worlds and reality hit.
Well I don't think it was a computer writing the tweets or giving the quotes so it was a person. She just didn't handle it very well.https://twitter.com/AshWagner2010/status/949660445131948032
Real people don't presume to tell others how to judge them.![]()
https://twitter.com/AshWagner2010/status/949660445131948032
Real people don't presume to tell others how to judge them.![]()
Part of me is in awe of all skaters but at the same time, my critical faculties are in complete and total darkness about why Angela Wang inspires so much devotion here. I wish some time someone would explain why she is so good instead of just saying it. This is not directed at anyone in particular. She clearly has many fans. ( She has even been compared to Kwan. Just no!)
Karen's positive response: https://twitter.com/Karebearsk8/status/949680256247410689