Superstitions for Prediction of Olympic Gold Medalists. Zagitova wins?

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Ever since the Grand Prix series started in 1995, I notice that the Ladies Olympic Champion has always medalled in the Grand Prix of France that season.

1998 - Tara Lipinski (2nd in Lalique)
2002 - Sarah Hughes (2nd in Lalique)
2006 - Shizuka Arakawa (3rd in Eric Bompard)
2010 - Yu Na Kim (1st in Eric Bompard)
2014 - Adelina Sotnikova (2nd in Eric Bompard....somehow lost to Ashley Wagner!!)
2018 - ???

Will the 2018 OGM be Zagitova, Sotskova or Osmond?

Please share if you have any other superstitions on who wins the Olympic Gold Medal.
 
Most Canadian entries tend to peak the year before the Olympics.
Winning worlds is often the kiss of death.
 
Men's Event - if you win the World Championships the year before the Olympics and you're not an American you won't win the Olympics - goes back to before the 2nd World War.
 
This discussion really should be in the Trash can. We are just speculating here.

Using this theory, I would say the chances are best for Osmond, next would be Zagitova, and then Sotskova.
 
The winners of Lalique/Bompard (aside from Yu Na winning in 2009) were non-threats at the Olympics. Laetitia Hubert, Maria Butyrskaya, Mao Asada (not old enough), and Ashley Wagner.

Vash01 said:
This discussion really should be in the Trash can. We are just speculating here.
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Wow, you're on top of moderating all the threads and deciding where they belong lately! :fan:
 
I have literally nothing to add other than, IIRC, after her 3d place finish at TEB, Arakawa threatened retirement, because it meant she'd missed the GPF. The JSF had made a big deal of reaching the final that year, and Arakawa stated that if she didn't, she'd probably miss the Olympics, and so would retire. Of course, we all know how that turned out... ;)
 
Fiero425 said:
OMG, just checked GPF results and didn't notice before that 5 of the 6 junior ladies is Russian! What's going on? They were depleted after Irina Slutskaya left, but now they have more talent than they can handle; same in Japan I guess! - - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–18_Grand_Prix_of_Figure_Skating_Final#Ladies_2 - - :oksana1: :sarah1: :sasha1:
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Where have you been hiding the last few years? Russian ladies have been dominant. It's not surprising that 5 out of 6 in the JGPF are Russian. Eteri's skaters swept the podium.
 
Vash01 said:
Where have you been hiding the last few years? Russian ladies have been dominant. It's not surprising that 5 out of 6 in the JGPF are Russian. Eteri's skaters swept the podium.
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Out of sight, out of mind! The figure skating started getting hard to find and I wasn't paying for streaming online! Just got Olympic channel on RCN a couple months ago so I can see most if not all competitions! Wish I could catch Russian Nat'ls in a couple weeks! Should be a very entertaining event since they have so many great skaters unlike the USA women! The men are also pretty much set; sans that 3rd spot maybe with Brown and Aaron! :rolleyes: :COP: :plush: :puppet: :scream:
 
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Fiero425, The Russian nationals will be very interesting, as usual, except in ice dance. The ladies competition is labeled 'Hunger games' by fsuers.
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Where'd the US get so comp. in Dance; 3 teams at GPF if I remember correctly! We were decent in Pairs, but shocking to see them so competitive in Dance nowadays! :rolleyes: :drama: :GnP1: :TnD1:
 
Fiero425 said:
Out of sight, out of mind! The figure skating started getting hard to find and I wasn't paying for streaming online! Just got Olympic channel on RCN a couple months ago so I can see most if not all competitions! Wish I could catch Russian Nat'ls in a couple weeks! Should be a very entertaining event since they have so many great skaters unlike the USA women! The men are also pretty much set; sans that 3rd spot maybe with Brown and Aaron! :rolleyes: :COP: :plush: :puppet: :scream:
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If your internet provider has ESPN3, you can watch Russian Nationals online.
 
The past four ladies champions have all skated to violin or piano showcases:

2002 - Sarah Hughes had Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini in her long
2006 - Shizuka skated to Vanessa Mae's violin fantasy on Turandot
2010 - Yuna skated to Gershwin's piano concerto
2014 - Adelina skated to Introduction and Rondo Capriccioso

Not really relevant to any of this year's contenders although Kaetlyn does have the Black Swan violin solo in her free...
 
Maybe Osmond is waiting for the Olympics to truly shine, since in both of her matchups with Zagitova so far, Osmond has failed to put on the pressure and prevail. Osmond could have won both matchups, but she didn't.

After the Russians apparently, ladies podium is anyone's guess. There's obviously a lot of support for Osmond, since she's supremely talented, and I think better artistically than the young Russian teenybopper phenoms. But it's so important to be in the zone and attack with confidence and grace. No one said figure skating is easy. Except that the best skaters can make it look easy when they skate clean.

I'm not a huge fan of the ladies discipline these days. In any case, it would be fun to see someone other than Med and Zagitova prevail for the OGM. It would be payback for Sochi. Plus, no matter how technically great Med and Zagitova are, their PCS scores are so overly high. I think Zagitova could eventually be a very interesting skater, if they would stop trying to push the 'balletic shtick' so hard. She has a modern edge to her that could be developed into something different and more interesting on the ice in ladies skating. But yeah, Eteri is so calculating and the Russian ladies are so inauthentic in their over-rated 'artistic expression.'
 
aftershocks said:
Maybe Osmond is waiting for the Olympics to truly shine, since in both of her matchups with Zagitova so far, Osmond has failed to put on the pressure and prevail. Osmond could have won both matchups, but she didn't.

After the Russians apparently, ladies podium is anyone's guess. There's obviously a lot of support for Osmond, since she's supremely talented, and I think better artistically than the young Russian teenybopper phenoms. But it's so important to be in the zone and attack with confidence and grace. No one said figure skating is easy. Except that the best skaters can make it look easy when they skate clean.

I'm not a huge fan of the ladies discipline these days. In any case, it would be fun to see someone other than Med and Zagitova prevail for the OGM. It would be payback for Sochi. Plus, no matter how technically great Med and Zagitova are, their PCS scores are so overly high. I think Zagitova could eventually be a very interesting skater, if they would stop trying to push the 'balletic shtick' so hard. She has a modern edge to her that could be developed into something different and more interesting on the ice in ladies skating. But yeah, Eteri is so calculating and the Russian ladies are so inauthentic in their over-rated 'artistic expression.'
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Most of the skating is just about unwatchable really! I watch to listen to some of the music a lot of the time because the performances suck! The men are doing too many quads and are pretty much just going back and forth across the ice to go for another! The Russian ladies' best have this thing putting their arm(s) above their head! I can't tell you how "UGLY" it looks; esp. Maria Sotskova since her long limbs accentuate the hideousness of her jumping style with a bent elbow! :rolleyes: :yikes:
 
aftershocks said:
Maybe Osmond is waiting for the Olympics to truly shine, since in both of her matchups with Zagitova so far, Osmond has failed to put on the pressure and prevail. Osmond could have won both matchups, but she didn't.

After the Russians apparently, ladies podium is anyone's guess. There's obviously a lot of support for Osmond, since she's supremely talented, and I think better artistically than the young Russian teenybopper phenoms. But it's so important to be in the zone and attack with confidence and grace. No one said figure skating is easy. Except that the best skaters can make it look easy when they skate clean.

I'm not a huge fan of the ladies discipline these days. In any case, it would be fun to see someone other than Med and Zagitova prevail for the OGM. It would be payback for Sochi. Plus, no matter how technically great Med and Zagitova are, their PCS scores are so overly high. I think Zagitova could eventually be a very interesting skater, if they would stop trying to push the 'balletic shtick' so hard. She has a modern edge to her that could be developed into something different and more interesting on the ice in ladies skating. But yeah, Eteri is so calculating and the Russian ladies are so inauthentic in their over-rated 'artistic expression.'
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I don't think Osmond is too artistry. I found her Swan very painfull she is not balletic at all..but yes, she is improved in the season.
 
^^ Different strokes for different folks. ;) One does not need to be overly 'balletic' in order to be artistic on the ice. Osmond is definitely graceful as well as powerful technically, and she's an expressive, entertaining performer.

In any case, neither are Zagitova and Medvedeva "balletic at all." :oksana1: :p
 
Fiero425 said:
Most of the skating is just about unwatchable really! I watch to listen to some of the music a lot of the time because the performances suck! The men are doing too many quads and are pretty much just going back and forth across the ice to go for another! The Russian ladies' best have this thing putting their arm(s) above their head! I can't tell you how "UGLY" it looks; esp. Maria Sotskova since her long limbs accentuate the hideousness of her jumping style with a bent elbow! :rolleyes: :yikes:
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So true about Sotskova and the bent elbow! I keep thinking she's doing a duck imitation... or King Tut dance... or submarine periscope... You get the idea. Med. and Zag. can make it look OK but Sot. can't. Singles is not much fun these days, whether men or women.
 
Fiero425 said:
Where'd the US get so comp. in Dance; 3 teams at GPF if I remember correctly! We were decent in Pairs, but shocking to see them so competitive in Dance nowadays! :rolleyes: :drama: :GnP1: :TnD1:
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We have been very competitive in ice dance for years now. Starting with B&A, the US ice dance really took off. D&W won two world titles, the OGM. Success breeds more success.

Our top 3 ice dance teams are podium worthy at worlds, so it's not surprising that three US teams made the GPF. There are strong junior teams as well. This will continue in the years to come.
 
Fiero425 said:
Most of the skating is just about unwatchable really! I watch to listen to some of the music a lot of the time because the performances suck! The men are doing too many quads and are pretty much just going back and forth across the ice to go for another! The Russian ladies' best have this thing putting their arm(s) above their head! I can't tell you how "UGLY" it looks; esp. Maria Sotskova since her long limbs accentuate the hideousness of her jumping style with a bent elbow! :rolleyes: :yikes:
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I think the bent arm is actually truer to the orginal ballet move. But straight or bent, the system should not be rewarding these meaningless moves to the current extent. The credit, if any, should be in presentation.
 
giselle23 said:
The judges may live to regret giving Alina such high PCS in her first senior season. It means Evgenia has less room for error.
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Russia goes from not having any women at the Olympics 24 years ago to prognostications of a clean sweep of the podium in Gangneung! How did this happen? They were bereft of talent after Irina retired, now they're flush; men and women! Love Tara's comment on a telecast; "Plushenko will not be attending his 18th Olympics!" :rolleyes: :plush: :respec: :rofl: :duh:
 
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