US Ice Dance 2024-25 News & Updates

I have no idea how reliable the information in this post is since the writer says that they're going to skate in the 2026 Winter Olympics, but it sounds like ZingKol's Challenger assignment this year will be Nebelhorn.

Well, they could potentially compete in the 2026 Olys, not out of the question, but the post said "2028" which won't happen unless skating becomes a summer sport. Maybe it should be in both Games? :)
 
New interview with the Rudedenman siblings. I thought this was the best place to put it.
They are Caylin, 21, Brysin, 18, Cianin, 16, Ryedin, 15, and Bryndolin, 13, and they are five creative and unique individuals in the Rudedenman family.

Though none of them had ever skated prior to 2017, today, the California siblings constitute two ice dance teams (novice and intermediate), a junior man, an open juvenile girl and one coach.
 
I suspect Pedersen/Starr would accompany Wolfkostin/Tsarevski to whichever event is their second assignment.
That's my guess too, which is why I think we'll see them both in Gdansk as it would still be possible for P/S to earn a second assignment in Wuxi, or perhaps they were fantastic in monitoring and will do back to back Gdansk and Ljubljana.
 
Wow! Hana Maria ABOIAN / Daniil VESELUK

Watched their free dance from Lake Placid on YouTube yesterday. She is a little superstar and they both have gorgeous lines and extension already. Her performance quality is amazing. Never heard of them before. Is anyone familiar with them? Their backgrounds, who coaches them?
 
Wow! Hana Maria ABOIAN / Daniil VESELUK

Watched their free dance from Lake Placid on YouTube yesterday. She is a little superstar and they both have gorgeous lines and extension already. Her performance quality is amazing. Never heard of them before. Is anyone familiar with them? Their backgrounds, who coaches them?
They are pretty spectacular already, aren't they? Here's an interview with them from June. https://www.ice-dance.com/site/new-team-series-hana-maria-aboian-daniil-veselukhin/
 
Lundsay Wang interviewed Emilea Zingas for her and Luke Wang's podcast, Off Ice Hours, and Emilea takes about how Zingas/Kolesnik started , how she has been making transitions from a single skater to an ice dancer, how they created short and long programs for last year, etc. Very interesting.

 
From the podcast, Zingas looks up to Piper Gilles for how she overcame her health problems and for how she makes her presence felt and holds her own in her programs.

Congrats to Mullen/Mullen on their first JGP medal. 🥈 :cheer2:
 
Aboian/Veselukhin spent a few days working with Oksana Grishuk. They said in that interview posted above that they would love to take a lesson from Grishuk/Platov, so I guess their coaches found a way to make it happen!
 
Aboian/Veselukhin spent a few days working with Oksana Grishuk. They said in that interview posted above that they would love to take a lesson from Grishuk/Platov, so I guess their coaches found a way to make it happen!
I was fortunate enough to be invited to attend their training session with Oksana in Newington yesterday, and Hana & Daniil performed run-throughs of both their RD and FD in costume as they prepared to leave for the JGP in Bangkok. I was blown away by their speed, technique, and artistry, as I had no idea who they were or their Summer 2024 results until after the morning session concluded. I guess I need to pay more attention to Junior Dance...

As some of you know, I spent a lot of time at U Delaware when Oksana & Evgeny, Angelika & Oleg, Irina & Ilya, and other top Linichuk & Karponosov couples were there during the 1990s. Hana & Daniil impressed me so much that I believe they could be among the leaders of the post-2026 USA ice dancers going into the 2030 Olympics. Just looking at their Lake Placid results shows their potential for US Nationals and the JGP.

P.S. I took the group pictures they posted on Instagram.
 
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Hmmmmmm... So, I've had a working theory, for a couple weeks now, since the Nebelhorn assignments came out and the Denis Ten Memorial assignments feel like things are leading to the outcome I theorized. I'm going to lay out the basis of my theory here - feel free to argue or debunk it!

1) Lake Placid IDI results - Flores/Desyatov were the clear winners of the teams vying for the SkAm host TBD spot.
2) Challenger assignments - usually the teams with earlier GP assignments or who look ready for competition get either Lombardia or Nebelhorn.
3) We got confirmation around Champs Camp that Parsons has had a pretty significant injury recovery period this spring/summer; and that Emily Bratti is in a walking boot and while she & Ian did show their programs during the monitoring sessions, they didn't skate in the Summer Sizzler.
4) Chock/Bates have been invited to compete at Shanghai Trophy - which is a perfectly good, low pressure warm-up event pre-SkAm should they accept the invitation from the organizers. It's not a Challenger but ChoBat (and GilPoir) have proven you don't necessarily need a pre-GP Challenger to still be very successful in ID if you're already a world medalist.

So, let's take review the GP assignments again and their pre-GP internationals (excluding LPIDI):

SkAm - Chock/Bates (Shanghai Trophy), Neset/Markelov (Lombardia), TBD
SCI - Bratti/Somerville (nothing), Browns (Denis Ten), Zingas/Kolesnik (Nebelhorn)
GPdF - BraSom (nothing), NesMark (Lombardia), Pate/Bye (nothing yet)
NHK - Carreira/Ponomarenko (Nebelhorn), ChoBat (Shanghai), Green/Parsons (nothing yet)
Finlandia - Browns (Denis Ten), PateBye (nothing yet), ZingKol (Nebelhorn)
CoC - CarPon (Nebelhorn), GreenP (nothing yet)

Another way of looking at the list above - teams by order of GP appearance:
ChoBat - week 1 - Shanghai - 2 weeks prior to SkAm
NesMark - week 1 - Lombardia - 5 weeks prior to SkAm
BraSom - week 2 - nothing yet
Browns - week 2 - Denis Ten - 3 weeks prior to SCI
ZingKol - week 2 - Nebelhorn - 5 weeks prior to SCI
PateBye - week 3 - nothing yet - probably Budapest 3 weeks prior to GPdF
CarPon - week 4 - Nebelhorn - 7 weeks prior to SCI (could wind up with a 2nd Challenger closer to NHK)
GreenP - week 4 - nothing yet - either Budapest or Metropole Nice (4 and 3 weeks prior to NHK respectively)

Non-GP teams assigned to Challengers so far:
Morozov/Chen - Lombardia (5 weeks prior to SkAm)
Flores/Desyatov - Denis Ten (2 weeks prior to SkAm)

So, here's the 5th fact/information piece that is fueling my working theory:

5) Flores/Desyatov are sitting in 1st position on the GP Alternates List with ZERO GP assignments - and not likely to get any unless it's a SkAm host TBD spot, CoC (only 2 US teams), or a US team withdraws from their GP assignments.

My working theory at the moment - the USFS is waiting, in part, to decide the SkAm host TBD spot until they know whether or not BraSom are going to be healed in time for SCI & GPdF. With their two GP assignments back-to-back, the likelihood of them WDing from one instead of both is pretty low, IMO. If they do WD from their GPs then FlorDes will get their assignments since they're currently in 1st position on the GP Alternates list.

Now, of course, the GP Alternates list COULD change, certainly, as we've learned this week - Challenger medalists get added to the GP Alternates List or moved up with an improved score. But the chances of that happening are, IMO, also pretty low.

Lombardia is pretty light on top-level teams with two GPs already (GuiFab & NesMark) so, theoretically, a bronze medal there could help a team (Soucisse/Firus, Ignateva/Szemko, Lagouge/Caffa, Dozzi/Papetti & Morozov/Chen seem the most likely contenders) but there's still a pretty big gap between the 23-24 SB of those teams and FlorDes.

Nebelhorn has a half dozen teams with two GPs already (LajLag, FearGib, ZingKol, CarPon, SmaDie, Taschlers) so the chances of some other team getting on the podium and pushing FlorDes out of the 1st GP Alternate position is non-existent.

Denis Ten is another Challenger with a half dozen teams who have two GPs already, plus FlorDes, and then another 3 teams that have 1 GP already and are right behind FlorDes on the GP Alternates list.

I think, had BraSom been assigned to Denis Ten, I'd have dismissed my theory but their absence from the entry lists of the first three Challengers and the fact that their GPs are back-to-back in the first half makes me believe they're probably going to wind up withdrawing and FlorDes will be the beneficiaries of that by virtue of being in the 1st GP Alternate position. And, of course, that leaves the USFS free to assign that SkAm host TBD spot to Morozov/Chen.

Thoughts?
 
I don’t think Bratti/Somerville not being ready for a Challenger means they will necessarily withdraw from their GPs. I do think it means we can rule out them being in top shape by the GP, unfortunately.
 
Emm…USFS really won't give up even the slightest chance to give Morozov & Chen the SA host spot.
Ehhhhhh... I prefer to think of it as maximizing GP assignment opportunities - for all disciplines. There's no sense in giving a host GP assignment to a skater who is in the 1st GP Alternate position to get assignments elsewhere and afford skaters lower down on the GP Alternates list an opportunity for the host spot.
 

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