U.S. Ice Dance 2023-24 news & updates

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With a large weekend of ice dance, the Solo Dance field was very competitive! In Senior it came down to less than a point separating U.S. Senior Champions Brooke Tufts and Lucas Appel. After the Rhythm Dance, Tufts lead over Lucas by 0.94 points. Tufts scored a new season's best after the Rhythm Dance (70.00) while Appel (69.04) scored just under what he scored a month ago at the Paradise Coast Classic. Then in the Free Dance, Appel scored a 103.94 for a total of 172.98 points and pulled up from second place to win the event. Lucas and Brooke earned the highest total scores of the entire competition! Very impressive rivalry for the Solo Dance circuit. Lucas earned a 177.81 in the Florida competition a month ago, but a very solid score and sheet for his Free Dance. Tufts scored a 99.47 for the Free Dance and a 169.47, which is a new seasons best for her. I am excited to see them go head to head again at Lake Placid in a few weeks!
 
Senior FD and about half of the Junior RD pics from Dallas Classic are now up at figureskatersonline.com -

Mad props to Leah Neset for working the violet sparkly eyeshadow like a true '80s girl! https://figureskatersonline.com/new...lovrhythm-dance-Dallas-Classic-23IMG_8188.jpg

Caroline Mullen also nailed the late '80s mall rat look to perfection (I might have a few yearbook photos that resemble her hair, lol) - https://figureskatersonline.com/new...m-dance-Dallas-Classic-23IMG_9000-300x298.jpg

Olivia Ilin, on the other hand... Words fail me at the over-sized mustard metallic hip flower - https://figureskatersonline.com/new...or-rhythm-dance-Dallas-Classic-23IMG_0121.jpg
 
Thanks to Jordan Cowan for a great video package of Grace and Luke Fischer's new FD!
(Video recorded in May, then published today.)

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The talented Grace and Luke were Intermediate champions at U.S. Ice Dance Final last season. Their FD last season was a blast -- they have tons of charisma. ❤️
Hope they have another strong season with Katherine and Ben!
 
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Thanks to Anne Calder for recap of Dallas Classic:


And thanks to Daphne for photos (many photos already are posted 👏 , and more are still to come):

2023 Dallas Classic | 2023-2024 Season | Ice-Dance.com's Photography Section

July 15-17; Plano, TX; Photos by Daphne Backman
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("In addition to partnered events, we did photograph Jr Solo RD, Sr Solo RD & FD, Juvenile Solo FD and Intermediate Solo FD." https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=788817566261582&set=a.558217465988261&type=3&theater
Already posted are most of Juvenile-Senior partnered events, plus Senior Solo RD.)
 
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TanithandBenFan said:
In case you can't access Kiss & Cry

Senior RD music information from Dallas (courtesy of my sister):

Wolfkostin/Tsarevski – “The Promise” by When In Rome and “Call Me” by Blondie

Flores/Desyatov – “Pour Some Sugar on Me” and “When Doves Cry”

Ling/Wein – “Hold on I’m Coming” by Aretha Franklin; another Aretha song (slow)

Larson/Kapran – “I’m So Excited”, “Just the Two of Us” and “It’s Raining Men”

Koncius/Shchepetov – “Rock this Town” and “Stray Cat Strut” by Stray Cats

Carhart/Kolosovskyi – “Caribbean Queen” by Billy Ocean; another Billy Ocean song (slow)

Kowar/Schwappach – “Never Tear Us Apart” and “What You Need” by INXS

Junior RD music from Dallas:

Neset/Markelov – “Still Loving You” by Scorpions and “Hate Myself for Loving You” by Joan Jett

Peal/Peal – “What Have You Done For me Lately” and “Rhythm Nation” by Janet Jackson

Hauer/Starr – “Simply the Best” by Tina Turner

Lavrova/Rogers – Michael Jackson song; “Bad” by Michael Jackson

Mullen/Mullen – “Wake Me Up Before You Go Go” by Wham and “Father Figure” by George Michael

Pedersen/Chen – “Kind of Magic” and “Under Pressure” by Queen

Calhoun/Veselukhin – “Billie Jean,” “The Way You Make You Feel,” and “Bad” by Michael Jackson

Ilin/Cain – “Neutron Dance,” “I Need You” and “I’m So Excited” by The Pointer Sisters

Renzi/Lissauer – “Holding out for a Hero”, “Almost Paradise” and “Footloose”

Cui/Eckert – “I Want to Break Free” and “Under Pressure” by Queen

Stapert/Korotcov – “Straight Up” and “Opposites Attract” by Paula Abdul

Epps/Gilman – “Modern Love,” “Let’s Dance” and “Dancing in the Streets” by David Bowie

Cialella/Goldshteyn – “Safety Dance” by Men Without Hats and “Der Telefon Anruf” by Kraftwerk

Melillo/Mintz – “Sledgehammer” by Peter Gabriel

Hagan/Hagan – “Ghostbusters”


My sister and I were children of the 80's who listened to the radio in our room every day after school, so she thought she'd be able to identify every song, but there were three that evaded her. She was cocky and didn't have her phone out ready to Shazam them. :lol:
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I am sure I won’t get to see these but I totally dig it that one team included Kraftwerk. 😀
 
ice coverage said:
Thanks to Anne Calder for recap of Dallas Classic:


And thanks to Daphne for photos (many photos already are posted 👏 , and more are still to come):

2023 Dallas Classic | 2023-2024 Season | Ice-Dance.com's Photography Section

July 15-17; Plano, TX; Photos by Daphne Backman
photos2.ice-dance.com

("In addition to partnered events, we did photograph Jr Solo RD, Sr Solo RD & FD, Juvenile Solo FD and Intermediate Solo FD." https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=788817566261582&set=a.558217465988261&type=3&theater
Already posted are most of Juvenile-Senior partnered events, plus Senior Solo RD.)
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JGP #1 Bangkok entries are up and the USFS
placeholder entries are Neset/Markelov and Hauer/Starr. It won't surprise me in the least if these are confirmed when the the USFS updates their International Assignments page this week.


ETA - and the assignments are confirmed! https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/...24-international-assignments-and-results.aspx
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I used Shazam and Sound Hound plus the assistance of a parent to create this list. Fingers crossed all are correct.

Senior Rhythm Dance / Free Dance…
Adrienne Carhart & Oleksandr Kolosovskyi
RD: “Caribbean Queen” and “The Long and Winding Road” by Billy Ocean
FD: “Skyfall” by Adele / “Square Escape” by Hans Zimmer

Isabella Flores & Ivan Desyatov
RD: “Pour Some Sugar on Me” by Vince Anthony / “When Doves Cry” by Prince)
FD: West Side Story, which included “I Feel Pretty”, “Maria” and “Tonight

Raffaella Koncius & Alexey Shchepetov
RD: “Rock the Town” and “Stray Cat Strut” by Stray Cats
FD: “On Reflection (Black Mirror television series) by Max Richter / “Song for the Little Sparrow” (Ouverture) by Patricia Kaas - Abel Korzeniowski.

Klara Kowar & Thomas Schwappach
RD: “Never Tear Us Apart” and “Need You Tonight” by INXS
FD: “No Time to Die” by Billie Ellish

Zoe Larson & Andrii Kapran
RD: “I’m So Excited” by The Pointer Sisters, “Just the Two of US” by Bill Withers and “It’s Raining Men” by the Weather Girls
FD: “Dance mon Esmeralda” the final song in Act II of Notre-Dame de Paris

Angela Ling & Caleb Wein
RD: “Love All the Hurt Away” / “Come to Me” by Aretha Franklin
FD: “Christo Redentor” by Duke Pearson / “Lilac Wine” by Nina Simone

Katerina Wolfkostin & Dimitry Tsarevski
RD: “The Promise” by When in Rome / “Call Me” by Blondie)
FD: “Tanquera” by Diego Schissa Quinteto and “Invierno Porteno” by Gidon Kremer and Kremerata Baltica

Junior Rhythm Dance / Free Dance…
Jane Calhoun & Daniil Vesulukhin
RD: “Billie Jean” and “Bad” by Michael Jackson
FD: The Addams Family Overture / Goo Goo Muck by the Cramps

Zoe Cialella & David Goldshteyn
RD: “Safety Dance” by Men Without Hats / “Der Telefon Anruf” by Kraftwerk;
FD: “The Addams Family (Original Soundtrack) “Evening”

Amy Cui & Kenny Eckert
RD: “I Want to Break Free” and “Under Pressure” by Queen
FD: Ghost the Musical: “Unchained Melody”, “Suspend my Disbelief”, “I Had a Life”

Julia Epps & Blake Gilman
RD: “Modern Love” and “Let’s Dance” by David Bowie / “Dancing in the Street” by David Bowie and Mick Jagger
FD: “Segundo” by Pink Martini, “Besame Mucho” by Edna Vasquez, “Que Rico El Mambo” by Perez Prado

Isabella Hagan & Shawn Hagan
RD: “Ghostbusters”
FD: “Running Up That Hill” by Kate Bush / “Separate Ways” by Jour

Jenna Hauer & Benjamin Staar
RD: “Simply the Best” by Tina Turner
FD: Notre-Dame de Paris: “La monture”, “Le sans-papiers” and “Le temps des cathedrales”

Olivia Ilin & Dylan Cain
RD: “Neutron Dance”, “I Need You” and “I’m So Excited” by the Pointer Sisters
FD: “Fire on Fire” (Watership Down), by Sam Smith

Anya Lavrova & Jonathan Rogers
RD: “Bad” by Michael Jackson
FD: Les Miserables

Michela Melillo & Simon Mintz
RD: “Sledgehammer” by Peter Gabriel
FD: Memoirs of a Geisha [John Williams, Yo-Yo Ma, Itzhak Perlman

Caroline Mullen & Brendan Mullen
RD: “Wake Me Up Before You Go” by Wham / “Father Figure” by George Michael
FD: “Survivor” by 2WE1

Leah Neset & Artem Markelov
RD: “Still Loving You” by Scorpions and “I Hate Myself for Loving You” by Joan Jett
FD: “Anytime, Anywhere” by Sara Brightman” and “Cry” by Thomas Bergersen.

Elliana Peal & Ethan Peal
RD: “What Have You Done for Me Lately?” / “Rhythm Nation” by Janet Jackson
FD: Lord of the Rings

Yahli Pedersen & Jeffrey Chen
RD: “Kind of Magic” and “Under Pressure” by Queen
FD: Phantom of the Opera

Emily Renzi & Willian Lissauer
RD: “Holding Out For a Hero” / “Almost Paradise” and “Footloose”
FD: Moulin Rouge Musical: “The Sparkling Diamond”, “Your Song”, “More More More” (Encore)

Annelise Stapert & Maxim Korotcov
RD: “Straight Up” and “Opposites Attract” by Paula Abdul
FD: “Malaguena Salerosa” by Chingon / “Bambeola” by Benise
 
Simply the Best…runner-up to I’m So Excited as my favorite RD tune this year!
 
Belsornia said:
I really like how the top part of her dress looks like stained glass from the cathedral.
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As mentioned in the 2022-23 season news thread, Hauer/Starr were in Montreal in June:
platniumangel said:
It could be for costumes with Mathieu Caron.
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The 3rd Dallas Classic FD photo Jenna shared in her post (thanking Caron "for their gorgeous outfits") shows the front of her dress well: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu3MX4bLCyj/

Robin Ritoss' Dallas Classic Senior & Junior RD/FD photos are published here (click on the + to open each gallery):
 
Karen-W said:
JGP #1 Bangkok entries are up and the USFS placeholder entries are Neset/Markelov and Hauer/Starr.

ETA - and the assignments are confirmed! https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/...24-international-assignments-and-results.aspx
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I'm a little perplexed why USFS is sending its top 2 returning junior world teams to the same JGP when it could have made each team the anchor team at a different event accompanied by a newer team. Granted, H/S were third at nationals behind N/M and Carhart/Horovyi and they were beaten by the Peals at Dallas Classic so maybe USFS doesn't consider them second-best. But still, all four of those teams could've been sent to a different first assignment.
 
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I'm a little perplexed why USFS is sending its top 2 returning junior world teams to the same JGP when it could have made each team the anchor team at a different event accompanied by a newer team. Granted, H/S were third at nationals behind N/M and Carhart/Horovyi and they were beaten by the Peals at Dallas Classic so maybe USFS doesn't consider them second-best. But still, all four of those teams could've been sent to a different first assignment.
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My guess is that travel plans were maybe made earlier than usual for Bangkok due to the cost and extra length of travel time, so they went with some more experienced teams that they knew would be ready early.
 
Starr is a college student (Brandeis) so I'm guessing they wanted to have at least one of their JGP's before his semester starts.

For Neset/Markelov, maybe they wanted to avoid visa complications for him, as Russians don't need visas for Thailand.
 
Stephanie said:
For Neset/Markelov, maybe they wanted to avoid visa complications for him, as Russians don't need visas for Thailand.
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Ah yes, I had already forgotten that Neset/Markelov only made it to one JGP last year. IIRC, they were supposed to go somewhere that changed their visa requirements just a week or two before the competition?
 
emilieh said:
Ah yes, I had already forgotten that Neset/Markelov only made it to one JGP last year. IIRC, they were supposed to go somewhere that changed their visa requirements just a week or two before the competition?
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They were supposed to go to Armenia and that got cancelled. The only remaining events were the two in Poland and Italy (where they did compete) and from what I understand Poland isn't admitting Russians at all, even if they have Schengen visas. https://www.rferl.org/a/poland-baltics-entry-ban-russians-eu-visas/32040504.html

ETA: I was still very surprised to see these two teams at the same event and would have thought USFS could have come up with a better plan to suit their top teams' needs and wishes (for example Markelov wouldn't need a visa for Turkey or Armenia either and he competed in Hungary last year) but I'm just a fan guessing at the situation :)
 
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Listed to compete in the Lake Placid Ice Dance International on Tuesday & Wednesday, August 1-2:

SENIOR
Oona Brown/Gage Brown
Angela Ling/Caleb Wein
Lorraine McNamara/Anton Spiridonov
Eva Pate/Logan Bye
Emilea Zingas/Vadym Kolesnik

JUNIOR
Kristina Bland/Matthew Sperry
Helena Carhart/Volodymyr Horovyi
Anya Lavrova/Jonathan Rogers (international debut together)
Caroline Mullen/Brendan Mullen
Leah Neset/Artem Markelov
Elliana Peal/Ethan Peal
 
Regarding the decision to assign both Neset/Markelov and Hauer/Starr to Bangkok - strategically, it makes sense, IMO. There was always going to be a very strong chance that both US teams assigned to this JGP would medal because, with the exception of France and Canada, most other countries with top teams (Germany, Cyprus, Israel) weren't going to spend the $$ to send those teams to Thailand vs Europe for their JGP assignments. Nabbing a medal here will put Hauer/Starr in a stronger position to earn a JGPF spot if they can manage a win at their 2nd JGP - gold/bronze will trump silver/silver.

Additionally, while Hauer/Starr did beat Carhart/Horovyi at Jr Worlds last year, CarHor did beat them at Nationals, and I think the two teams are about even with each other.

It's going to be interesting to see who the USFS assigns to Linz - those assignments were due yesterday.
 
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But still, all four of those teams could've been sent to a different first assignment.
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It seems bizarre to me that USFS signed up & apparently confirmed our 1 & 2 from Junior Worlds to the same event. We never do this & the reason is obvious as a #3 placement here could potentially ruin the JGPF chances of a team that could possibly make the Final.

I did figure USFS would have to pencil in 2 of the top 4 ranked U.S. teams to Bangkok. They need to send two out of the top eight & with at least three new teams in the mix, none of which were on the ISP early enough to make Bangkok's sub list, it's unclear which teams will fill out the top 8. USFS was always likely to initially name two teams for Bangkok that should finish the preseason safely top 8.

This, combined with varying results for teams #2-#4 from last season mixed with the Dallas Open results, does make things a bit sticky.

I see the point of wanting to give the athletes knowledge of where they are going to compete well in advance. This year, though, I'd have waited to confirm the second team until after Lake Placid.

Sending Neset & Markelov to Bangkok makes good sense.

It's the second berth that's a question mark.
 
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Dobre said:
It seems bizarre to me that USFS signed up & apparently confirmed our 1 & 2 from Junior Worlds to the same event. We never do this & the reason is obvious as a #3 placement here could potentially ruin the JGPF chances of a team that could possibly make the Final.
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That's presuming they finish 3rd and, to be honest, I think the #2 US team here, in this case, Hauer/Starr, has a decent shot of pulling an upset and winning silver ahead of Fradji/Forneaux.

I don't agree, though, that 3rd here could potentially ruin the JGPF chances for any of these teams, provided that team can win at their 2nd JGP. Apart from the off-chance of winding up at the same event as Grimm/Savitskiy or Fradji/Forneaux, I think the #2 US team here in Bangkok is going to be in a really strong position to win their 2nd JGP. Presuming that Germany sends GrimSav to Linz for JGP #2, one has to assume that everyone else is vying for silver & bronze there too - and by everyone else I mean Pidgaina/Koval, both US teams, Kudryatseva/Karankevich, the French, and maybe Tkachenko/Kiliakov if they do the JGP this season. I'd rather be the US #2 in Bangkok than the US #1/2 in Linz, to be honest.
 
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It's going to be interesting to see who the USFS assigns to Linz - those assignments were due yesterday.
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My guess is that it will be the Peals (Carhart/Horovyi haven't competed 2 programs yet, which I think is generally a requirement to be assigned to a JGP) and one of the other teams that scored well at Dallas: probably Lavrova/Rogers or the Mullens since I think Pedersen/Chen could use more time since she's new to partnered dance.
 
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My guess is that it will be the Peals (Carhart/Horovyi haven't competed 2 programs yet, which I think is generally a requirement to be assigned to a JGP) and one of the other teams that scored well at Dallas: probably Lavrova/Rogers or the Mullens since I think Pedersen/Chen could use more time since she's new to partnered dance.
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That's my guess as well.
 
Dobre said:
It seems bizarre to me that USFS signed up & apparently confirmed our 1 & 2 from Junior Worlds to the same event. We never do this & the reason is obvious as a #3 placement here could potentially ruin the JGPF chances of a team that could possibly make the Final.

I did figure USFS would have to pencil in 2 of the top 4 ranked U.S. teams to Bangkok. They need to send two out of the top eight & with at least three new teams in the mix, none of which were on the ISP early enough to make Bangkok's sub list, it's unclear which teams will fill out the top 8. USFS was always likely to initially name two teams for Bangkok that should finish the preseason safely top 8.

This, combined with varying results for teams #2-#4 from last season mixed with the Dallas Open results, does make things a bit sticky.
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I do wonder if this was the original plan or whether they expected one of the subs to replace them. Of the list of subs available for this event:

Bland/Sperry: to my knowledge, they haven't competed yet this season. They would have been an ideal pick otherwise: an experienced JGP team, but not one of the top 4 teams
Carhart/Horvyi: same problem as assigning Hauer/Starr with N/M
Epps/Gilman: underperformed at Dallas Classic, not currently in top 7 junior dance teams
Ilin/Cain: underperformed at Dallas Classic, not currently in top 7 junior dance teams. If they had beaten the new ISP additions at Dallas Classic, they would have been a good choice. But you can't choose them for a spot before Lavrova/Rogers, Pederson/Chen, or the Mullens at this point in the season. Perhaps, there will be a reshuffling of the teams after Lake Placid and Silicon Valley Open.
Peal/Peal: same problem as assigning Hauer/Starr with N/M

Looking over the JGP Bangkok roster again, it does look like Hauer/Starr's bronze to lose as the rest of the field is really inexperienced. But I think winning a silver at this event would be a lot harder than Linz where, yes, there's potentially a lot of good teams who are fairly evenly matched in skill and reputation, but not 2 of the top 6 teams from Worlds and the #1s from both their powerful federations. If I were Hauer/Starr, I'd like the Linz odds better, especially since they defeated Kudryatseva/Karankevich (at Junior Worlds), Tkachenko/Kiliakov (at Junior worlds and on JGP), Pidgaina/Koval (on JGP) last season and they haven't beaten Fradji/Forneaux or Neset/Markelov.
 
I don’t think qualifying at the final has as much impact on results later on the season, like it used to.take for instance, N/M beat the French at jr world even though the French made it to the jgp final. So I am fine either way
 
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