U.S. Ice Dance 2022-23 news & updates

[Karen-W]

Oh, I'm so upset for Hawayek/Baker! But, at the same time, very excited for both CarPon and GreenP since it sounds like HawBak have no intention of petitioning for the 4CCs team, which means both teams are likely to be assigned.

 

[PRlady]

What a crappy day this has been. Sigh. Well I’m less likely to stay up for Nats RD at my 3 AM but will still try.

 

[Wyliefan]

((@PRlady))

 

[ice coverage]

I don't believe any other Senior teams have the required minimum scores for Nationals? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

ETA from November 22, 2022:

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClRs-levFFi/ TJ Carey has retired

This just in: Caroline Depietri / TJ Carey have been added today to 2023 Nats roster, per USFS pages.

Athletes Named to 2023 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships Lineup - U.S. Figure Skating Fan Zone

U.S. Figure Skating today announced the 123 qualifiers who will compete at the 2023 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships set for Jan. 23-29 in San Jose, California.

usfigureskatingfanzone.com

Athletes Named to 2023 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships Lineup | U.S. Figure Skating

www.usfigureskating.org

They did/do have both TES minimums for 2023 Nats.

I guess TJ Carey un-retired to seize this unexpected opportunity? Which is totally understandable.

(Lest anyone wonder: Depietri/Carey placed 7th at U.S. Ice Dance Final. Kowar/Schwappach placed 8th.)

 

[Lanie]

Noooo HawBak

 

[Aceon6]

Klara Kowar/Thomas Schwappach are missing the FS minimum for Nats by only 0.26.

That was why he was so distraught at the dance final in Norwood. His dad said that this was going to be his last try at going to Nationals.

 

[ice coverage]

That was why he was so distraught at the dance final in Norwood. His dad said that this was going to be his last try at going to Nationals.

I have no insight into what goals Kowar/Schwappach have at this point, but the partnership seems to still be active, per social media as recently as a couple of weeks ago.
(Also: FWIW, they performed in Vail in December.)

2022-23 was their first season together. If they decide to try for 2024 Nats, I'll be rooting for them.

 

[topaz]

Not that Green/Parsons and Carreira/Ponomarenko are lacking in motivation before these championships, but with a silver medal on the line now, maybe there will be an extra fire lit under them. Like I said, G/P and C/P are both already hungry and this won't ultimately hurt Hawayek/Baker's rankings domestically, as H/B have earned an opportunity to miss a competition, IMO, but every little opportunity to place higher than expected can't help but add just a little more motivation.

Those my thoughts exactly. US Dance always seems to have fantastic rivalries within the country. We have a few young teams that are going to be fighting it out over the next several years.

 

[Frau Muller]

Hawayek and Baker have withdrawn from Nationals!

….

Awwwww… No Cuban Pete at Nationals?!

They're doing the right thing to heal properly. Wishing H/B a solid recovery.

 

[kittyjake5]

Sorry to hear about H/B. Their FD is one of my favorites this season. Wishing them a speedy recovery.

 

[sk8nlizard]

This just in: Caroline Depietri / TJ Carey have been added today to 2023 Nats roster, per USFS pages.

Athletes Named to 2023 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships Lineup - U.S. Figure Skating Fan Zone

U.S. Figure Skating today announced the 123 qualifiers who will compete at the 2023 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships set for Jan. 23-29 in San Jose, California.

usfigureskatingfanzone.com

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Athletes Named to 2023 Toyota U.S. Figure Skating Championships Lineup | U.S. Figure Skating

www.usfigureskating.org

They did/do have both TES minimums for 2023 Nats.

I guess TJ Carey un-retired to seize this unexpected opportunity? Which is totally understandable.

(Lest anyone wonder: Depietri/Carey placed 7th at U.S. Ice Dance Final. Kowar/Schwappach placed 8th.)

I’m glad to see this. In past, the rule has been that if someone got a bye to Nationals (like H/B), if they withdrew their slot would not be filled. But maybe with USFS limiting the number of people qualifying to Nationals to a smaller number, they are making other rules. I think it’s great to give more teams/skaters the opportunity to compete at Nationals!

 

[ice coverage]

I’m glad to see this. In past, the rule has been that if someone got a bye to Nationals (like H/B), if they withdrew their slot would not be filled. But maybe with USFS limiting the number of people qualifying to Nationals to a smaller number, they are making other rules. I think it’s great to give more teams/skaters the opportunity to compete at Nationals!

Yes, Rule 2521 regarding seniors was changed at USFS Governing Council, Apr 29-30, 2022.
The change is shown on p. 58 of 2021-22 Combined Report of Action.

2521 For the U.S. Figure Skating Championships, there are no alternates for the championship (senior events). Alternates for the junior events alternates are designated as follows as follows [sic]:​

A. For senior events:​

1. Singles skaters who have met the minimum TES, in the order of their scores, nationwide, from their respective
sectional singles final. In the case of a tie, it will be broken by the free skate score.
2. Pairs and dance teams who have met the minimum TES, in the order of their scores at the U.S. Pairs and U.S. Ice
Dance Final.​

​

https://www.usfigureskating.org/sites/default/files/media-files/2021-22%20Combined%20Report%20of%20Action.pdf

When the previous version of Rule 2521 was in effect, I think it was the same rule regardless of whether a senior entry who withdrew had a bye or not? No alternates for senior events at Nats regardless, until the change for 2022-23.
(Junior events at Nats previously had alternates, and still do.)

 

[her grace]

Very sad for H/B and hope they will heal by worlds.

Silver lining: the battle for pewter should be fierce!

 

[Spiralgraph]

I'm disappointed too that H/B have withdrawn from Nationals. I'll cross all fingers that they'll be fully recovered and ready for Worlds. But dance got a whole lot more unpredictable for the podium placements.

 

[Firedancer]

So sad we won’t get to see H/B at nationals. It seemed like they started off really strong at Skate America and have struggled with injuries since then. I hope they can heal and be ready for worlds.

 

[dancefan17]

Sad about H/B as well. They really fought (and did well) at the last few competitions, and not sure if the injury is Kaitlyn’s knee, but glad they are taking some time to rest. I am sure it was a hard decision, but expect they will be on the world team and taking the much needed rest is a smart decisoon.

 

[Dobre]

Hawayek and Baker have withdrawn from Nationals!

Ah.

Well, it seemed like a big ask that they were going to be able to keep pushing a knee injury in this discipline. I hope they can set themselves on the mend. I know this is such a big year for the teams hoping to grab the opportunity of moving up after retirements (and then the Russian teams out on top of that); but health does have to come first. (Also, I feel like H&B's RD this season is such a nice fit for their personalities on the ice.)

Along with getting another team into 4CCs, this could maybe bump another team up enough to get funding.

 

[BlueRidge]

Really interesting article on Bratti & Somerville from our @clairecloutier

They talk about how they got together and about the injury they had last summer, I did not know about that!

Bratti and Somervillle: Rising Through the Ranks

 

[Barbara Manatee]

Ouch! for Emily - what a scary fall.

Ian comes off as a more empathetic partner than I expected. Either he's matured a lot or the reports of his previous behavior weren't altogether accurate.

 

[~tapdancer~]

Really interesting article on Bratti & Somerville from our @clairecloutier

They talk about how they got together and about the injury they had last summer, I did not know about that!

Bratti and Somervillle: Rising Through the Ranks

Thanks, that was a good read. So sorry about their injury, glad she has healed. It was good to read how close they are and that bodes well for a long term partnership. Looking forward to seeing them skate (on tv, lol) You know, reading about their mental trauma from that fall, it helps to understand why H/B described their mental state as reason for withdrawing from Nats, skating with an injury or even a recovering injury is pretty traumatizing I would think.

 

[DreamSkates]

Hawayek and Baker have withdrawn from Nationals!

https://twitter.com/fsonline/status/1615394668585304064

“After much consideration, we have decided to withdraw from the 2023 Toyota U.S. Championship

Over the past 18 months, our team has dealt with significant physical injuries that have led to challenges in our mental health & we feel it is in our best interest to prioritize this currently."(2/3) #USChamps23

We are grateful to have the collective support of our whole team behind this decision and cannot thank them enough. We will use this time to come back stronger with the intention to petition for a spot on the 2023 World Team.” (3/3) #USChamps23

Can someone please explain what lingering injuries? I'm so sad to hear this but have high hopes they'll return strong in the near future and continue.

 

[litenkyckling]

Can someone please explain what lingering injuries? I'm so sad to hear this but have high hopes they'll return strong in the near future and continue.

I would assume her knee injury from last season - but there was a concussion too. Like always though, I don't think the full details/extent of injuries have ever been publicly disclosed.

 

[flatfoot]

H/B have been my absolute favourite team as they seem to have the whole package:
Sublime skating skills, absolute grace in dealing with being the underdogs, the delivery of great dad jokes and what seems to be very sweet and sincere personalities and strength and courage when dealing with important issues which makes them wonderful role models. I hope they reach their goals both in the short term and looking further forward

 

[DreamSkates]

I would assume her knee injury from last season - but there was a concussion too. Like always though, I don't think the full details/extent of injuries have ever been publicly disclosed.

Thanks.Concussions can be career-ending. Let’s hope not for this team.

 

[TanithandBenFan]

Avonley Nguyen is featured in the Athlete Corner in this month’s Skating magazine, and the article says she has given up skating to pursue a career in sports medicine and orthopedics. I wish she had been able to continue in the sport because she was so talented, but I hope this next chapter will be great for her.

 

[clairecloutier]

I’ll miss watching Avonley. She had something special! Such a charismatic skater. But I wish her all the best in her new chapter & career.

 

[CesYeg]

Avonley Nguyen is featured in the Athlete Corner in this month’s Skating magazine, and the article says she has given up skating to pursue a career in sports medicine and orthopedics. I wish she had been able to continue in the sport because she was so talented, but I hope this next chapter will be great for her.

Best wishes for her future endeavors. Did she ever give any reason as to why she and Kolesnik had split?

 

[VGThuy]

I always assumed it was something personal and as they were both young teens, I would just leave well enough alone until one of them chooses to speak out.

 

[Firedancer]

Wolfkostin and Chen have split:
https://twitter.com/fsonline/status/1623387426470129665?s=46&t=_mJnJFauK_TqJ2SxJPn8dA

 

[toddlj]

Wolfkostin and Chen have split:
https://twitter.com/fsonline/status/1623387426470129665?s=46&t=_mJnJFauK_TqJ2SxJPn8dA

Sad but despite their immense talent individually and as a team, they just didn't seem to ever quite put it all together.