The Dance Hall 7: Tripping the Light Fantastic 2019-2020

[kittysk8ts]

OMG RD P/C costumes! HAHAHAHAHA. Excellent.

 

[Khaleesi]

Well of course, what would you expect from a P/C fan in uber mode

I can’t tell if you’re doing this on purpose or just annoying in general.

Anyway looking forward to the SD event at IdF!

 

[skategal]

I've been thinking the problem for me not appreciating this dance is that I haven't seen the movie. I think it's problematic if this dance assumes people have all seen the movie in order to appreciate / figure out what H/D are trying to say with it....

Trust me, seeing the movie doesn’t necessarily help with the interpretation of their FD.

 

[bcash]

I've been thinking the problem for me not appreciating this dance is that I haven't seen the movie. I think it's problematic if this dance assumes people have all seen the movie in order to appreciate / figure out what H/D are trying to say with it....

I didn’t see the movie, but I thought it was a huge enough success that people who never saw it in theaters would generally be aware of the contour of and emotions in the story (It’s a 4th remake of the same story after all), plus the outsized celebrityhood of Gaga (and to a lesser extent, Cooper, with their well-received live Oscar performance etc, etc) really kind of pushed it into the pop culture consciousness, I assumed.

Now in reality, dance performances, in so far as they purport to convey a narrative or portray specific character journeys, are almost destined to fail without some pre-knowledge of the story and characters on the part of the audience. Dance can communicate many things but complex plot points is not one of them. (Hence Balanchine’s “there is no mother-in-laws in ballet” quote.) Skaters more often than not are also referencing this type of knowledge in building their programs, be it Chaplin or Moulin Rouge.

I am not saying that H/D’s FD requires a knowledge of the story to be appreciated, and I’d like to think it does not. But because I was aware of the general outline of the story, I did not see it with a completely clean slate of mind. In trying to imagine the perspective of someone who does not know at all what A Star Is Born is about, I can see that the music arrangement of H/D’s program could use a bit more finesse and clarity. But I still feel that with your usual figure skating fan’s eyeglasses on, one can see this is a pretty powerful program that conveyed some earthy passions and with distinct flourishes that fitted the music.

 

[firstflight]

For those of us without pbp and are just watching scores, what is happening?! Is something wrong with the ice?

 

[Miloune]

For those of us without pbp and are just watching scores, what is happening?! Is something wrong with the ice?

Lots of falls... But idk if there's something specifically wrong with the ice.
Marie-Jade fell on the pattern, that was costly.

 

[nimi]

Is something wrong with the ice?

Some people on twitter were complaining about puddles on ice...

 

[oleada]

IDK if it's me becoming an uber, but if Guignard/Fabbri represented one of the bigger federations, they'd have so much higher PCS. I don't see any reason why their PCS is behind Chock/Bates. Yeah, he had a twizzle error, but they're technically and artistically so much better.

 

[barbarafan]

Lots of falls... But idk if there's something specifically wrong with the ice.
Marie-Jade fell on the pattern, that was costly.

a little bit confused with the levels given....but true several "glitches" on programs

 

[bcash]

I started to like G/F more and more too. Technically quite precise with a lot of easy speed. Their performance is really engaging without manufactured drama.

 

[GreenGan]

I think that except the polish, and the spanish and the russian placement, it was a well-judged event. If Mario did't mess his second set of twizzles, the italian would have been second.

Soucisse/Firus were very enjoyable live ! The beginning of S/D's RD felt great, I was impress and then it began to feel more and more flat. The coverage of ice Z/G get when they twizzle is huge !!

 

[mjb52]

I thought this was the IdF RD thread and was like, "damn 47 pages what happened!"

 

[cocotaffy]

IDK if it's me becoming an uber, but if Guignard/Fabbri represented one of the bigger federations, they'd have so much higher PCS. I don't see any reason why their PCS is behind Chock/Bates. Yeah, he had a twizzle error, but they're technically and artistically so much better.

Couldn't agree more. C/B were not on today, technically at least. OTOH the Italians, twizzles excluded, were amazing. They got better levels than P/C ! They should have been second imo. I can't wait for their FD tomorrow.

 

[Gris]

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What did Charlene and Marco do to the British judge?

I think they should be 2nd too.

 

[cocotaffy]

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What did Charlene and Marco do to the British judge?

I think they should be 2nd too.

Looking at his placement of Smart/Diaz, I guess he likes Olivia Smart performance a lot, surely because she represents Spain and for no other reason

 

[casken]

What happened to Fabbri's hand? It's amazing they did as well as they did considering it looked like he couldn't even bend it.

 

[Debbie S]

What happened to Fabbri's hand? It's amazing they did as well as they did considering it looked like he couldn't even bend it.

Looked like a splint. When I first saw it, I thought it was supposed to be part of his costume and I was very puzzled. Possibly a sprain?

 

[taz'smum]

Looked like a splint. When I first saw it, I thought it was supposed to be part of his costume and I was very puzzled. Possibly a sprain?

Marco cut a tendon in has hand and is in a splint from his elbow to fingers. Both programs had to be adapted as he has no strength in that arm. Everyone is in awe of how he managed to skate like this, he is incredible and she too for having to manage without his supporting hand! Marco Respect

 

[barbarafan]

I started to like G/F more and more too. Technically quite precise with a lot of easy speed. Their performance is really engaging without manufactured drama.

I enjoyed them...but do you think they deserved a level 4 for their midline step sequence? almost no one gets level 4's and a lot I really loved got level 3 or even level 2..not just at this competition but others as well. Also what is wrong with his (wrist?) That was almost a cast he has on.

 

[VarBar]

Yeah, he had a twizzle error

And Charlene lost her balance a bit on the first sequence of finnstep. A bit but it was visible though.

 

[Jay42]

Hey, someone posted a while ago (I think in one of the PBP threads for Skate America actually) that there is an ice dance team skating to songs from a musical Jeremy Jordan was in, I can't remember what team it was though and because it was a couple of weeks back I'm having a hell of a time finding the post and I've checked so many ISU bios for peoples music and I haven't been able to find the team yet, does anyone remember what team it is so I can find their RD? I have some friends who are Jeremy Jordan obsessives (Broadway and Supergirl fans) that want to see it. Any help is much appreciated, thank you

 

[Colonel Green]

Hey, someone posted a while ago (I think in one of the PBP threads for Skate America actually) that there is an ice dance team skating to songs from a musical Jeremy Jordan was in, I can't remember what team it was though and because it was a couple of weeks back I'm having a hell of a time finding the post and I've checked so many ISU bios for peoples music and I haven't been able to find the team yet, does anyone remember what team it is so I can find their RD? I have some friends who are Jeremy Jordan obsessives (Broadway and Supergirl fans) that want to see it. Any help is much appreciated, thank you

You're most likely thinking of Bonnie & Clyde. There are several different Bonnie & Clyde RDs this season -- if it was in a Skate America PBP, then you'd be thinking of Laurence Fournier Beaudry & Nikolaj Sorensen. Your friends may or may not have access to the ISU stream, in any case, here's an earlier version from Lombardia Trophy:

Laurence Fournier Beaudry & Nikolaj Sorensen - 2019 Lombardia Trophy RD

Score: 79.11.

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The Skate America version is here, if they can access that (obviously it has higher image/camera quality).

Fournier Beaudry / Sorensen (CAN) | 3rd place Ice Dance | Rhythm | Skate America 2019 | #GPFigure

For more information visit https://isu.org/ ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Skate America / Las Vegas, USA / Oct. 18 – 20, 2019 Skate Canada International /...

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There are also a few junior RDs to Bonnie & Clyde, such as this one from Elizaveta Shanaeva & Devid Naryzhnyy that also uses Jordan's vocals.

Elizaveta Shanaeva / Devid Naryzhnyy (RUS) | Ice Dance Rhythm Dance | Chelyabinsk 2019

Visit https://isu.org/JuniorGrandPrix for more information on the ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating. ICE DANCE RHYTHM DANCE START ORDER 13:15:00 - 13:2...

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[manhn]

H&D are skating to Smash, which Jeremy Jordan was in.

 

[Dobre]

The door was open, and Guignard & Fabbri mucked up. But they lived to fight another day, and I love their FD. (I want to see them take a great crack at the Final, but not for a weak performance. Oh, the of being an ice dance fan!) OMG about Marco's arm. I never even noticed!

My mother nominates Kaliszek & Spodyriev for Voiceover of the Year:

"No longer are we making shoes. We are making 2 1/2 feet of tubular, irresistible sex."


(You know, in case anyone misses the point that the boots & the music could possibly be interpreted as a metaphor for sex?)

 

[Jay42]

You're most likely thinking of Bonnie & Clyde. There are several different Bonnie & Clyde RDs this season -- if it was in a Skate America PBP, then you'd be thinking of Laurence Fournier Beaudry & Nikolaj Sorensen. Your friends may or may not have access to the ISU stream, in any case, here's an earlier version from Lombardia Trophy:

Laurence Fournier Beaudry & Nikolaj Sorensen - 2019 Lombardia Trophy RD

Score: 79.11.

www.youtube.com

The Skate America version is here, if they can access that (obviously it has higher image/camera quality).

Fournier Beaudry / Sorensen (CAN) | 3rd place Ice Dance | Rhythm | Skate America 2019 | #GPFigure

For more information visit https://isu.org/ ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Skate America / Las Vegas, USA / Oct. 18 – 20, 2019 Skate Canada International /...

www.youtube.com

There are also a few junior RDs to Bonnie & Clyde, such as this one from Elizaveta Shanaeva & Devid Naryzhnyy that also uses Jordan's vocals.

Elizaveta Shanaeva / Devid Naryzhnyy (RUS) | Ice Dance Rhythm Dance | Chelyabinsk 2019

Visit https://isu.org/JuniorGrandPrix for more information on the ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating. ICE DANCE RHYTHM DANCE START ORDER 13:15:00 - 13:2...

www.youtube.com

H&D are skating to Smash, which Jeremy Jordan was in.

Thank you kindly, everyone

 

[millyskate]

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What did Charlene and Marco do to the British judge?

I think they should be 2nd too.

He/She thinks they're potentially "catchable" by Fear & Gibson so wants to keep them down

 

[Wyliefan]

Skoptcova/Aleshin are skating to Bonnie & Clyde as well, IIRC.

 

[firstflight]

So S/D have notched a 191 and 188 in their 2 Grand Prix events. They lost about 8 points in the TES after review today but still managed a 112 in the FD. H/K only scored 180.6 in Skate Canada with, as someone pointed out, the lowest base level of any team in the FD. Interesting season....

 

[bcash]

Only caught a good look at C/B's FD on the stream. At their first two outings I thought the program looked precise and fully ironed out but lacked in speed and dynamism. This time it looked to be a lot more dramatically exciting, both physical drama and atmospheric. came together really well with the musical beats. Evan Bates's presence really grew since they moved to Montreal, and even looks more attractive...

 

[mollymgr]

After seeing this seasons senior programs, I have to say Montreal's programs are hit or miss. Some programs are just amazing and others are totally . There is definitely a variety and one can't say that all their teams are looking alike. I think they are definitely making sure that they are all unique. It will be interesting to see which ones will be successful at Worlds.