The Dance Hall 6: We're All Off Our Rockers 2018-2019

[Anyasnake]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiMv_aiDLXV/?taken-by=louis_thauron
New team working with Krylova ?

They'll obviously skate for France and could aim for the 2019 Europeans since they have 3 spots.

 

[Dobre]

Ice Dance Drama Post-Olympics 2018 Update

Splits:
Abachkina & Thauron (She is on IPS)
Pogrebinsky & Benoit (He retired. She is on IPS)
Polishchuk & Vakhnov
Mysliveckova & Csolley
Biechler & Dodge
Konkina & Yakushev
Rumored: Mansour & Ceska
Garabedian & Proulx-Senecal (She is on IPS)
Lopareva & Karpushov (He is on IPS)
Stairs & Royer
Fabbri & Pietrantonio (Both were on IPS. Both are off it now).
Wagret & Couryas (He is on IPS)
Damuleviciute & Kizala (He was on IPS. He is off it now).
Galiyanova & Tang
Han & Lochhead
McIsaac & Graham (He retired)
Taileffer & Chan (He is on IPS)
Giglava & Yegorov (He is on IPS)
Broker & Thayalan (He is on IPS)

Retirements:
Agafanova & Ucar
Robledo & Fenero

Not Competing the 2018-2019 Season:
Shibutanis

New Teams:
Galayavieva & Thauron (with Krylova).
Polishchuk & Yakushev (Edit: Training with Krylova)
Konkina & Vakhnov (Edit: Training with Liapina)
Galiyanova & Lochhead
Wagret & Souquet

Coaching News:
Krylova is coaching in Russia.
Hawayek & Baker going to Montreal.
Popova & Mozgov moved to Krylova.
Loboda & Drozd moved to Krylova.
Greg Zuerlein leaving Novi. (Rumored to be going to Wheaton).
Komatsubara & Koleto moved to Montreal.



Note: Orihara & Royer were listed as a new team on the Vancouver Ice Dance Academy site for about a minute & then the page disappeared. So I will wait until we have some additional sign that they are a team before adding them to the list above.

 

[Dobre]

Also, the World Standings have been updated:
http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsdance.htm

Now we wait & see who actually puts their names in the ring for the GP lists next season.

 

[rinkside]

Ice Dance Drama Post-Olympics 2018 Update

Splits:
Abachkina & Thauron (She is on IPS)
Pogrebinsky & Benoit (He retired. She is on IPS)
Polishchuk & Vakhnov
Mysliveckova & Csolley
Biechler & Dodge
Konkina & Yakushev
Rumored: Mansour & Ceska
Garabedian & Proulx-Senecal (She is on IPS)
Lopareva & Karpushov (He is on IPS)
Stairs & Royer
Fabbri & Pietrantonio (Both were on IPS. Both are off it now).
Wagret & Couryas (He is on IPS)
Damuleviciute & Kizala (He was on IPS. He is off it now).
Galiyanova & Tang
Han & Lochhead
McIsaac & Graham (He retired)
Taileffer & Chan (He is on IPS)
Giglava & Yegorov (He is on IPS)
Broker & Thayalan (He is on IPS)

Retirements:
Agafanova & Ucar
Robledo & Fenero

Not Competing the 2018-2019 Season:
Shibutanis

New Teams:
Galayavieva & Thauron (with Krylova).
Polishchuk & Yakushev (Training with Liapina)
Konkina & Vakhnov
Galiyanova & Lochhead
Wagret & Souquet

Coaching News:
Krylova is coaching in Russia.
Hawayek & Baker going to Montreal.
Popova & Mozgov moved to Krylova.
Loboda & Drozd moved to Krylova.
Greg Zuerlein leaving Novi. (Rumored to be going to Wheaton).
Komatsubara & Koleto moved to Montreal.



Note: Orihara & Royer were listed as a new team on the Vancouver Ice Dance Academy site for about a minute & then the page disappeared. So I will wait until we have some additional sign that they are a team before adding them to the list above.

Mansour and Ceska have broken up and she is having tryouts. Aldridge and Eaton seen skating at Novi and Natalia giving lessons.

 

[taz'smum]

Ice Dance Drama Post-Olympics 2018 Update

New Teams:
Polishchuk & Yakushev (Training with Liapina)
Konkina & Vakhnov

More like :-
Polishchuk & Yakushev (Training with Krylova)
Konkina & Vakhnov (Training with Liapina)

 

[Sylvia]

Also, the World Standings have been updated:
http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsdance.htm

Re-posting from the World Standings thread:

Current ISU World Standings after 2018 Worlds (top 24 in each discipline copied out below for posterity):
...
ICE DANCE
...
13 2603 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSEN CAN

It was pointed out to me on Twitter that the Danish-now-Canadian team are not listed in the updated WS list (link posted by Dobre above).

They are, however, still listed for CAN on the 2017-18 ISU SB total scores list as of March 24, 2018: http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/sb2017-18/sbtsdto.htm
19 164.90 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSEN CAN ISU European Championships 2018 20.01.2018 (their ISU bio still lists them as DEN)

 

[Cayuse]

Looks like Anjelika Krylova is going to be a VERY busy coach. Wishing her all the best!

 

[barbarafan]

Looks like Anjelika Krylova is going to be a VERY busy coach. Wishing her all the best!

I am sure she will be fine...I wonder about her kids though...That is quite an uprooting

 

[muffinplus]

Are Krylova and Camerlengo still together ? Or that has nothing to do with her move back to Russia?

 

[rinkside]

Are Krylova and Camerlengo still together ? Or that has nothing to do with her move back to Russia?

No.

 

[iris81]

Damuleviciute & Kizala (He was on IPS. He is off it now).

I think he is skating with Daria Drozd in Krylova's group now, as there was info she has partner from Lithuania and looks like it's him on this photo https://www.instagram.com/p/BiFgZt_B9IW/?taken-by=katerina_kuznitsina

 

[muffinplus]

No.

No, the latter?

 

[lauravvv]

No, the latter?

No, they are not together. They divorced a few years ago, but continued to coach together. Now Krylova has relocated to Russia, as we know, and Camerlengo stayed in US. It's not known for sure what he's going to do, but it was rumored that he's going join Shpilband's coaching team (but that's really just a rumor for now).

 

[muffinplus]

No, they are not together. They divorced a few years ago, but continued to coach together. Now Krylova has relocated to Russia, as we know, and Camerlengo stayed in US. It's not known for sure what he's going to do, but it was rumored that he's going join Shpilband's coaching team (but that's really just a rumor for now).

Thanks, I'm quite out of touch, thought they were married

 

[Ka3sha]

I've already mentioned it in the Team Russia news thread, but it's also accurate here.
According to Betina Popova's Instagram, Maxim Staviski is now working with Krylova and Oleg Volkov.
https://www.instagram.com/bet1nka/?hl=ru

It's pretty interesting, as Staviski worked with Volkov in Zhulin's group few years ago, when P/B and I/K trained there.

 

[thvu]

So, Weaver & Poje are in Montreal...

 

[Sylvia]

Weaver/Poje were in Montreal for CSOI; they're in Toronto for tonight's show.

 

[wickedwitch]

So, Weaver & Poje are in Montreal...

That's how tours work. They go to all different cities.

 

[Cathy069]

No, they are not together. They divorced a few years ago, but continued to coach together. Now Krylova has relocated to Russia, as we know, and Camerlengo stayed in US. It's not known for sure what he's going to do, but it was rumored that he's going join Shpilband's coaching team (but that's really just a rumor for now).

Krylova and Camerlengo is always at present in couple and married.
Here is an extract of the interview given to the sport-inside journalist of November 05th, 2016 during the cup of Russia that nevertheless insists on the rumor of a divorce, here is their answers:
- Constantly on the Russian Internet to spread information about your collaboration with other Russian specialists Marina Zueva and Igor Shpilband.
- I want to dispel all the rumors. We have a very well organized joint venture of ten years venture with an Italian specialist Pasquale Camerlengo. With us also works Natalia Annenko. In common with other Russian experts, only that we work in the United States Detroit. We have our own staff of professional coaches with his hand.
- Pasquale, a question for you. It's not difficult for you to work with such an energetic specialist as Angelika Krylova. Still, you have a special Italian strong temperament. Is there really no controversy in the work?
Pasquale: - We have creativity. There are disputes, of course. But the arguments are purely creative. We have a community of interests, and we will always find the truth in any dispute. Moreover, we have a kind of separation in the training process. Angelica is the trainer-organizer. She perfectly copes with the decision of all organizational questions. And he is working hard on the technique of riding couples. I'm more concerned with the productions, the choice of music, etc. Therefore, we complement each other very well.

Angelica: - Pasquale is a very creative and creative coach. He likes to work on details, musicality and the relationship between partners in the dance. I'm doing more technical side training. Ribernity, cleanliness of turns, softness of sliding, unison of pair. I want to preserve Russian traditions of smoothness of sliding in dances on ice. I am also engaged in planning daily trainings for coaches and each pair in our group. All this is very individual. Also, like Pasquale, I do choreography for couples.

In the world of the skating the person whom I prefer is Pasquale Camerlengo I am very closely for more than 6 years and I have numerous documents which give evidence of what I writes but whom it is forbidden to me to publish.
The installation or not from Krylova to Moscow will decide later according to the reaction of his children this summer .Pasquale Camerlengo will move with his wife, they settled down in the United States because she was already an owner of a house and Carlo Fassi had deeply advised it to Pasquale.In the time they hesitated between several countries of which Russia for their installation before the birth of their daughter.

 

[VGThuy]

So they're still married and Pasquale is thinking about relocating with Krylova if the training school works out and if moving to Russia works with the kids?

 

[Cathy069]

So they're still married and Pasquale is thinking about relocating with Krylova if the training school works out and if moving to Russia works with the kids?

I think that everything will depend on the reaction of the children, the working conditions as well as the agreements between federations and club which will welcome them. Pasquale Camerlengo worked for 8 years in France and on one year in Germany with Angelika. At present she would have 3 couples Russian and a French couple, her presence could not that temporary.

 

[rhapsody]

Also, the World Standings have been updated:
http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsdance.htm

Now we wait & see who actually puts their names in the ring for the GP lists next season.

So the seeds for the GP will be PapCiz, Hubbell & Donohue, and Chock & Bates (if they're healthy). Otherwise it'll be WeaPo (if they're continuing) and if not then... Guignard & Fabbri. Not much depth after this season.

 

[Dobre]

So the seeds for the GP will be PapCiz, Hubbell & Donohue, and Chock & Bates (if they're healthy). Otherwise it'll be WeaPo (if they're continuing) and if not then... Guignard & Fabbri. Not much depth after this season.

No, the seeds for the GP are based on placements at Worlds, not World Standings. So the top three are Papadakis & Cizeron, Hubbell & Donohue, and Weaver & Poje.

If W&P continue.

If W&P compete and if Chock & Bates compete, then C&B will be in the second seeded group with Cappellini & Lanotte if C&L continue and Gilles & Poirier.

That's a lot of ifs. We'll know a lot more when the list comes out.

 

[rhapsody]

No, the seeds for the GP are based on placements at Worlds, not World Standings. So the top three are Papadakis & Cizeron, Hubbell & Donohue, and Weaver & Poje.

If W&P continue.

If W&P continue and Chock & Bates continue, then C&B will be in the second seeded group with Cappellini & Lanotte if C&L continue and Gilles & Poirier.

That's a lot of ifs. We'll know a lot more when the list comes out.

Mind blip. You're completely correct.

Still, I didn't realize how many teams were stepping away after this season.

 

[Debbie S]

So the seeds for the GP will be PapCiz, Hubbell & Donohue, and Chock & Bates (if they're healthy). Otherwise it'll be WeaPo (if they're continuing) and if not then... Guignard & Fabbri. Not much depth after this season.

GP seedings are based on placement at Worlds the previous season, not world rankings. The top 3 seeds will be P/C, H/D, W/P. Seeds 4-6 will likely be C/B (assuming C/L retirement), G/P, S/B. If anyone else retires or takes the season off, then the teams behind them move up.

 

[Anyasnake]

GP predictions :

P/C = France and NHK
H/D = Skate America and China
WeaPo = Skate Canada and Russia
They'll take their respective countries as GPs. Plus China is one week only after Canada so WeaPo can only get NHK or Russia. P/C already did China this year and NHK usually gets the top skaters.

That is IF WeaPo continue. If not it's C/L turns but I'm pretty sure they are retiring. So it's C/B decision, but it's still the same equation.
Is it possible for both WeaPo and G/P to get Skate Canada ?

 

[Dobre]

I didn't realize how many teams were stepping away after this season.

I'm already about all the favorites I'm likely to lose, and thus far, the only teams that have technically retired are Agafanova & Ucar and Robledo & Fenero.

GP predictions :

P/C = France and NHK
H/D = Skate America and China
WeaPo = Skate Canada and Russia
They'll take their respective countries as GPs. Plus China is one week only after Canada so WeaPo can only get NHK or Russia. P/C already did China this year and NHK usually gets the top skaters.

I think it's a good prediction.

It's the second round of seeded athletes whose locations I think are harder to predict. Care to tackle that?

 

[Debbie S]

Plus China is one week only after Canada so WeaPo can only get NHK or Russia. P/C already did China this year and NHK usually gets the top skaters.

There is no rule against skaters having GPs in back to back weeks. Two seasons ago, C/B competed 2 weeks in a row. But I agree that W/P will get SC and CoR, b/c P/C and H/D aren't going to want to go to Russia. It's up to P/C whether they want China or NHK...my guess is they'll choose NHK but we'll see.

It's probably better for C/B to be seeded 4th and not 3rd, b/c they'll get their first choices. I would assume they'll want later GPs, since they are getting a later start to the season due to Madison's surgery. S/B will get Russia, but I doubt C/B would choose that anyway....I would guess they'll be at NHK or CoC and France.

 

[Anyasnake]

It's the second round of seeded athletes whose locations I think are harder to predict. Care to tackle that?

Chock/Bates = Canada and Japan
Gilles/Poirier = America and France
Stepanova/Bukin = Russia and China

2nd possibility : Switching France and Japan for C/B and G/P.

S/B will get Russia but can't get France, it's only one week later. Plus no US or CAN since it's C/B and G/P countries, so that leaves China. And Maybe the fed won't put 2 skaters from the same countries in their GPs, so C/B and G/P get their "opposite" countries (but who know, maybe they will this time !).

I know they can get back to back GPs, but the 1st to 6th place usually don't, so that's how I'm "guessing".

 

[cholla]

Krylova and Camerlengo is always at present in couple and married.
Here is an extract of the interview given to the sport-inside journalist of November 05th, 2016 during the cup of Russia

Nov 5 2016 ? But we are now May 2018. I'm afraid a few things have changed...

In the world of the skating the person whom I prefer is Pasquale Camerlengo I am very closely for more than 6 years and I have numerous documents which give evidence of what I writes but whom it is forbidden to me to publish.

What do you mean documents ? Unless you're their lawyer how and why would you hold documents pertaining to Krylova and Camerlengo's marital status ? What evidence "of what you write" are you talking about ? Sorry but I'm really confused here, I don't understand what you mean at all...