The Dance Hall 13: When You Dance on the Ice and Your Feet Twizzle Twice, That's Amore

[VGThuy]

”lol”

 

[Sylvia]

"1 minute and 44 seconds of interesting iam dynamics":

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021714133482094884

"and then scott" (40 seconds):

https://x.com/tisthedmnseasn/status/2021714606482440523

 

[Sylvia]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022046349764800770

"I’ll also say that for C/B, none of these judges awarded 5s in GOE for the step sequence or the one foot sequence that dropped to level 3s. For FB/C, 2 judges awarded a 5 to the one foot sequence that dropped a level." https://x.com/icedancenomoney/status/2022050491904278912

 

[Sylvia]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022047712288682096

 

[Andrea82]

"1 minute and 44 seconds of interesting iam dynamics":

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021714133482094884

"and then scott" (40 seconds):

https://x.com/tisthedmnseasn/status/2021714606482440523

The best is Barbara going through the whole IAM to greet Dieck

Ah, and the speaker in Italian still calling the Free Skating "the long program".

 

[Tinycities]

It’s here

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Not sure why it says link broken, but it works when you click visit instagram.

"1 minute and 44 seconds of interesting iam dynamics":

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021714133482094884

"and then scott" (40 seconds):

https://x.com/tisthedmnseasn/status/2021714606482440523

This whole thing just looks so uncomfortable and awkward. So many teams. It gives me waiting for the school bus for return trip back after a field trip vibes.

 

[Vagabond]

Especially when the start order gives us 3 Ricky Martin RDs in a row!

It's the CD, not the RD, innit?

Maybe it will be the paso doble next season.

 

[MsZem]

"1 minute and 44 seconds of interesting iam dynamics":

The best is Barbara going through the whole IAM to greet Dieck

My favorite part is Lopareva on her phone while all the drama and hugging are unfolding.

 

[skipaway]

WaPo Article on Free Dance

 

[marbri]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022047712288682096

With all due respect @Sylvia this person you are sharing ( while I don't doubt their credentials ) has a clear bias against FB/C that was evident prior to last nights competition. Many of their retweets clearly show this. They even retweeted someone who shared a video of FB/C falling in a lift with the caption "now do that in the FD please".....

I could go into detail about a few places where they contradict their conclusion that C/B were correctly scored and FB/C were overscored but I am going to leave it here for the time being.

 

[Sylvia]

WaPo Article on Free Dance

Thank you @skipaway!

I thought Robert Samuels wrote a good article on the FD (it's the only one I've read today that I thought was worth re-tweeting).
Would anyone like to gift link his WaPo article and post the link here [FD PBP thread in Kiss & Cry] and/or in the Dance Hall thread?

The Skating Session's FD video has been posted: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/the-skating-session-a-new-show.112756/page-8#post-6893021

ETA:

With all due respect @Sylvia this person you are sharing ( while I don't doubt their credentials ) has a clear bias against FB/C that was evident prior to last nights competition. Many of their retweets clearly show this.

I didn't have time to do a deep dive into their X post timeline before sharing here so thanks for pointing that out. Feel free to share more observations about their contradictory conclusions if you feel like it.

 

[marbri]

Thank you @skipaway!

The Skating Session's FD video has been posted: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/the-skating-session-a-new-show.112756/page-8#post-6893021

ETA:

I didn't have time to do a deep dive into their X post timeline before sharing here so thanks for pointing that out. Feel free to share more observations about their contradictory conclusions if you feel like it.

I will maybe later as it's nearing midnight here and I am not sure this is the thread to do that in?

But I do think we should all be a bit more prudent in what we share because while I didn't have to do a deep dive to see the tweet about the fall and a lot of others they did yesterday most people still only read the headlines and won't look past their conclusion that C/B were scored correctly while FB/C were overscored due to judges bias. Which I think you would agree ( once you scroll down a bit further ) that is a bit rich considering how they really feel about FB/C

 

[Sylvia]

I will maybe later as it's nearing midnight here and I am not sure this is the thread to do that in?

Why wouldn't this be a pertinent thread in which to continue a discussion on this topic? Feel free to start a new thread on this topic if you prefer.

 

[nealesmull]

Want to know why the US got 2nd instead of 1st on the Rhythm Dance? Comes down to one step. Look at the linked video for Chock & Bates. Skip to 2:11 where they do a step where the guy is on two feet and the girl steps over the guy’s leg. It is step 29 from the pattern dance Tango Romantica.

Chock & Bates take this on a flat (straight line) instead of a deeply curved edge. Bates should have been leaning hard to his left. He wasn’t.

For reference, look at my own performance of the pattern dance Tango Romantica at 1996 US Nationals. (Link below) Skip to 1:32 and 2:23. We did it twice back in the day, making it a pattern. Note how I am leaning HARD to my left to make it curve rather than go straight.

This seems to be the point and the step that made a half point difference between 1st and 2nd on the Rhythm Dance and possibly the difference between Gold and Silver. Don’t get me wrong. Chock & Bates are the better dancers and it would have been an easy fix. The real question should be why didn’t their coaches see this earlier? Why did the judges wait until the end of the season to take issue with this? Chock & Bates did what they trained. Did they train with a Silver medal performance in mind. Don’t think so.

Chock & Bates Olympic Rhythm Dance (2:11)
https://youtu.be/4M-FW8rTNJ8?si=dCdGj75C0wf_pd7z

Kuchiki & Smull 96 US Nationals (1:32 & 2:23)
https://youtu.be/wPJIZPmkMtg?si=cuoAfWzDmFy_GWg8

Why don’t we know this? Because most of the commentators for the Ice Dance event are Singles skaters that haven’t skated with a partner longer than a hug. It’s like having the World Wrestling Federation comment on a Ballet except the wrestlers would have done more partner work.