Russian women news & updates, 2021-22 season

[Coco]

You make a good point, @Vash01

 

[love_skate2011]

It seems Tuktamsyehva got fever and withdrew from Cup of Austria.

Do I see a dejavu of 2019 where Tuks momentum was derailed and Med eventually went to Worlds and Tuk was sent to WTT as a consolation after the skate off.

https://twitter.com/sunlight_girl?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1458798629699915779%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Looks like Trusova is back in that last spot hope. Tuktasyehva looks to have an Olympic curse over her lifetime, SAD.
If this happens, Tuktamsyheva will miss 3 Olympic cycles, is that a record ?

 

[Karen-W]

It seems Tuktamsyehva got fever and withdrew from Cup of Austria.

Do I see a dejavu of 2019 where Tuks momentum was derailed and Med eventually went to Worlds and Tuk was sent to WTT as a consolation after the skate off.

https://twitter.com/sunlight_girl?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1458798629699915779%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Looks like Trusova is back in that last spot hope. Tuktasyehva looks to have an Olympic curse over her lifetime, SAD.
If this happens, Tuktamsyheva will miss 3 Olympic cycles, is that a record ?

Melodramatic, much? You can hardly call it deja vu when it's one, minor Challenger competition that she's withdrawn from because she's caught a cold/has a fever this week. We'll know just how serious it is if she has to withdraw from Rostelecom in two weeks.

 

[love_skate2011]

Melodramatic, much? You can hardly call it deja vu when it's one, minor Challenger competition that she's withdrawn from because she's caught a cold/has a fever this week. We'll know just how serious it is if she has to withdraw from Rostelecom in two weeks.

if its normal fever a week off and she should be back on the ice, now if its something else like C*****
that will definitely derail her momentum like in 2019 when she got the pneumonia. Lets hope its just some flu, its a minor event so
its worth skipping but GP is indeed an alarm.

 

[Vash01]

It seems Tuktamsyehva got fever and withdrew from Cup of Austria.

Do I see a dejavu of 2019 where Tuks momentum was derailed and Med eventually went to Worlds and Tuk was sent to WTT as a consolation after the skate off.

https://twitter.com/sunlight_girl?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1458798629699915779%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Looks like Trusova is back in that last spot hope. Tuktasyehva looks to have an Olympic curse over her lifetime, SAD.
If this happens, Tuktamsyheva will miss 3 Olympic cycles, is that a record ?

It's too early to make those predictions about Liza. In 2019 she had pneumonia, and she was sick for a long time.

We don't know about her current fever. Her withdrawal from Austria could be precautionary. I hope she recovers quickly and gets stronger For her next GP. There is no Olympic curse against her. She is in an extremely competitive field, that's all.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

Uggh, Daria Usachëva withdrew from NHK. Looked like an ankle sprain. Too bad. Feel better, Daria.

 

[love_skate2011]

and this confirms the long running curse:

That you can never be a successful skater named: Diana, Daria or Polina.

Im pretty sure we will not see Usacheva ever again, her potential one hit wonder season became a Flop.
Muravyeva, Samodelkina and Petrosyan all with Ultra Cs will be turning seniors for next season.

 

[love_skate2011]

With Usacheva withdrawing this opens 2 door for non russian in GPF notably by Kaori or You.


anyways I dont think she would have made an impact in the GPF medal running, she has no Ultra C
Bad timing for her though, she will be punished by nationals and will probably score lower than Kostornaya.


Usacheva will be of No use by next season and can be comfortably dumped
for Petrosyan, Muravyeva and Samodelkina. In other words her one season breakout wonder was a Flop.

Does UK, Azerbaijan, Krgystan, Tukrmenistan, Canada, Lithuania still looking for women skater ?

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

and this confirms the long running curse:

That you can never be a successful skater named: Diana, Daria or Polina.

Im pretty sure we will not see Usacheva ever again, her potential one hit wonder season became a Flop.
Muravyeva, Samodelkina and Petrosyan turning seniors for next season.

Yep. Before the SP, I was wondering how Daria would emotionally handle being the only Russian there. The pressure to maintain Russian GP gold was going to be big for her. Had she bombed her SP she would have probably been dismissed by Eteri to go into Ice Dancing. At least she won't have to deal with being the Russian who ended their GP winning streak. But no, her future is not looking bright at all. Poor Daria.

 

[Vash01]

Yep. Before the SP, I was wondering how Daria would emotionally handle being the only Russian there. The pressure to maintain Russian GP gold was going to be big for her. Had she bombed her SP she would have probably been dismissed by Eteri to go into Ice Dancing. At least she won't have to deal with being the Russian who ended their GP winning streak. But no, her future is not looking bright at all. Poor Daria.

I am disappointed of course, but this is not the end of her career. She is young. She will be back.

 

[love_skate2011]

I am disappointed of course, but this is not the end of her career. She is young. She will be back.

not unless she at least gets a 3 axel. She will get pushed over by Samodelkina, Murayveya and Petrosyan next season.

She could have had a Sofia Samodurova one hit wonder season that too is gone, she wont get those scores again after this season
Stepsister1 can continue skating like Samodurova but her scores will continue to plummet, will Eteri tolerate that ?

 

[love_skate2011]

In other news, Tuk posted some beach pics, looks like the fever lasted only a day or the fever was just a fake excuse to withdraw all Mishin Skaters in Austria.

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva on Instagram: "Рада, что вы есть! Люблю вас ❤️ @sinddra @86leramax #bestfriendsever #moodoftheday #goodvibesonly #moments"

15K likes, 109 comments - liza_tuktik on November 12, 2021: "Рада, что вы есть! Люблю вас ❤️ @sinddra @86leramax #bestfriendsever #moodoftheday #goodvibesonly #moments".

www.instagram.com

 

[love_skate2011]

here is the clip of Usacheva causing the injury

𝙍𝙐𝙎𝙎𝙄𝘼𝙉 𝙁𝙄𝙂𝙐𝙍𝙀 𝙎𝙆𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙉𝙂 𝙏𝙀𝘼𝙈 on Instagram: "Дашуля, мы с тобой🥺❤️ Силы, здоровья и скорейшего восстановления🌟"

1,324 likes, 74 comments - 50_shades_of_skaters on November 12, 2021: "Дашуля, мы с тобой🥺❤️ Силы, здоровья и скорейшего восстановления🌟".

www.instagram.com

How low will Usacheva will be punished in Nationals ?, definitely out of top 10 is possible.

Valieva, Scherbakova, Tuk, Trusova ?, Kostornaya, Krmokh, Muravyeva, Petrosyan, Samodelkina, Akatieva, Zinina
did I miss anyone else that can push her out more ?

 

[Karen-W]

In other news, Tuk posted some beach pics, looks like the fever lasted only a day or the fever was just a fake excuse to withdraw all Mishin Skaters in Austria.

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva on Instagram: "Рада, что вы есть! Люблю вас ❤️ @sinddra @86leramax #bestfriendsever #moodoftheday #goodvibesonly #moments"

15K likes, 109 comments - liza_tuktik on November 12, 2021: "Рада, что вы есть! Люблю вас ❤️ @sinddra @86leramax #bestfriendsever #moodoftheday #goodvibesonly #moments".

www.instagram.com

So what? She's in a good spot heading into Rostelecom and doesn't need to tire herself out. And competing two weeks in a row certainly won't fix whatever Kolyada's problems are with consistency.

 

[Karen-W]

here is the clip of Usacheva causing the injury

𝙍𝙐𝙎𝙎𝙄𝘼𝙉 𝙁𝙄𝙂𝙐𝙍𝙀 𝙎𝙆𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙉𝙂 𝙏𝙀𝘼𝙈 on Instagram: "Дашуля, мы с тобой🥺❤️ Силы, здоровья и скорейшего восстановления🌟"

1,324 likes, 74 comments - 50_shades_of_skaters on November 12, 2021: "Дашуля, мы с тобой🥺❤️ Силы, здоровья и скорейшего восстановления🌟".

www.instagram.com

How low will Usacheva will be punished in Nationals ?, definitely out of top 10 is possible.

Valieva, Scherbakova, Tuk, Trusova ?, Kostornaya, Krmokh, Muravyeva, Petrosyan, Samodelkina, Akatieva, Zinina
did I miss anyone else that can push her out more ?

Stop it. She isn't going to be PUNISHED, you twerp. If she can skate, she's going to be scored according to what she puts on the ice. Chances are pretty high, with the skaters you listed there, that most stood a reasonable chance of beating her regardless of how she did on the GP this season. Even had she made the GPF, she would have been up against all at least 4 women who made the GPF also, plus Trusova who beat her handily at SkAm, another 3 juniors who made the JGPF, plus Zinina & Samodelkina - and those 10 women all have either at least one quad or a 3A.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

She could have had a Sofia Samodurova one hit wonder season that too is gone, she wont get those scores again after this season
Stepsister1 can continue skating like Samodurova but her scores will continue to plummet, will Eteri tolerate that ?

Both Daria and Maiia. I was concerned that for the two of them, this season would be a "Samodurova Year" for them before the bigger/better girls come up. Maiia is at least making hay while the sun is shining. Too bad for Daria. Maybe she'll go into ice dancing. Her skating skills are wonderful.

 

[love_skate2011]

Both Daria and Maiia. I was concerned that for the two of them, this season would be a "Samodurova Year" for them before the bigger/better girls come up. Maiia is at least making hay while the sun is shining. Too bad for Daria. Maybe she'll go into ice dancing. Her skating skills are wonderful.

If Krmoykh keeps her quads, she will still be competitive next season against Samodelkina, Muravyeva, Petrosyan.
Usacheva had the potential to be the Sofia Samodurova of this season but it was not meant to be, hence "Daria".

Stepsister1 can skate for another country, but she needs to sit out for 2 years since she represented Russia internationally.
She needs to think of options after this, coz she is DONE. A one hit season didn't even happen.

the commentator was even ominous : Im afraid that is the last time we'll see of Daria Usacheva.

 

[Frau Muller]

I am disappointed of course, but this is not the end of her career. She is young. She will be back.

Perhaps Dasha will join the exodus of great young Russians looking for an adoptive country?

So the Eteri Pyramid, for this season of seniors, is getting smaller. Kamila - Anna - Maiia the Big 3, currently fit for Olympic duty. Of the non-Eteris, Liza Tuk. The big question mark: Sasha.

 

[love_skate2011]

Looks like the injury is a hip fracture ?
This looks to be unfortunately a career ending, hip fracture is worst than foot fracture coz its long term effects in jumping

Is Tutberidze sounding alarm in her drilling training system ? looks like she has 3 skaters left and Tuk is ready to seize that one spot.

Usacacheva is not my type of skater But I feel for her, how it must feel to try your best knowing that with one fatal mistake or injury you are out. She knows with this unexpected injury her skating has stopped and there are many girls waiting to fill her spot.

 

[On My Own]

Looks like the injury is a hip fracture ?

It's a ligament tear in the right leg.

Is Tutberidze sounding alarm in her drilling training system ? looks like she has 3 skaters left and Tuk is ready to seize that one spot.

She has four skaters still, not counting Kostornaia.

 

[love_skate2011]

It's a ligament tear in the right leg.


She has four skaters still, not counting Kostornaia.

a bit of good thing ? https://fsrussia.ru/news/5828-infor...r-i-usachevoj-s-etapa-gran-pri-v-yaponii.html

just ligament tear, still I think she's out the whole season. It will be an uphill battle for her to come back next season

Looks like Tutberdidze's dominance will be a bit capped next quad.

Davydov has Sofia Samodelkina
Plushenko has Muravyeva, Titova, Zhilina, Zinina.
Tutberidze so far only has Akatieva, Petrosyan and Alysa D in juniors

It will be ironic if Tutberidze will be the one that starts poaching next year.

 

[Scott512]

here is the clip of Usacheva causing the injury

𝙍𝙐𝙎𝙎𝙄𝘼𝙉 𝙁𝙄𝙂𝙐𝙍𝙀 𝙎𝙆𝘼𝙏𝙄𝙉𝙂 𝙏𝙀𝘼𝙈 on Instagram: "Дашуля, мы с тобой🥺❤️ Силы, здоровья и скорейшего восстановления🌟"

1,324 likes, 74 comments - 50_shades_of_skaters on November 12, 2021: "Дашуля, мы с тобой🥺❤️ Силы, здоровья и скорейшего восстановления🌟".

www.instagram.com

How low will Usacheva will be punished in Nationals ?, definitely out of top 10 is possible.

Valieva, Scherbakova, Tuk, Trusova ?, Kostornaya, Krmokh, Muravyeva, Petrosyan, Samodelkina, Akatieva, Zinina
did I miss anyone else that can push her out more ?

Dasha scored 230 points at nationals last season. Other than Akatieva those 4 juniors you mentioned won't even sniff that score.

If the fed is going to mushroom scores it's going to be for the seniors who are Olympic eligible. Those juniors are going to have to wait their turn until next season.

 

[Scott512]

Poor Dasha.

Is it a thigh injury or an ankle injury? I read the injury was around the femur bone and the femur is in the thigh.

She wasn't going to make the Olympic team anyway with only 3 spots I just hope this is not a 4 to 6 month injury and that she loses the rest of this season.

 

[love_skate2011]

Dasha scored 230 points at nationals last season. Other than Akatieva those 4 juniors you mentioned won't even sniff that score.

If the fed is going to mushroom scores it's going to be for the seniors who are Olympic eligible. Those juniors are going to have to wait their turn until next season.

Uscheva has an injury and her nationals was in question, I don't think she would have scored that much points.
Yes Samodelkina, Zinina, Akatieva and Muravyeva have Ultra Cs and can outscore Uscaheva.

 

[love_skate2011]

Poor Dasha.

Is it a thigh injury or an ankle injury? I read the injury was around the femur bone and the femur is in the thigh.

She wasn't going to make the Olympic team anyway with only 3 spots I just hope this is not a 4 to 6 month injury and that she loses the rest of this season.

Nationals are in about a month and 11 days. She is out for the whole season. ligaments tear takes 2-4 weeks of rest after surgery

 

[Scott512]

Uscheva has an injury and her nationals was in question, I don't think she would have scored that much points.
Yes Samodelkina, Zinina, Akatieva and Muravyeva have Ultra Cs and cautscore Uscaheva.

But they fall all the time. Maybe not Sonia that much but the other 3 do. Nastya Z fell multiple times in her free skate the other day. I like SS
a lot but she falls all the time as does Veronika Z.

Doing ultra jumps is the main reason these girls fall so much. Dasha on the other hand almost never falls. I hope her injury is not as bad as it sounds.

 

[Scott512]

Nationals are in about a month and 11 days. She is out for the whole season. ligaments tear takes 2-4 weeks of rest after surgery

We love figure skating but it is a brutal sport physically. I don't want her to think her career is in jeopardy at 15. But the reality is there are a lot of girls gunning for Dasha's spot now.

After the Olympics season I think a couple of the ways are going to leave TT. Is the stress of the Olympic season must be massive and then you have the whole is the whole virus thing impacting the world in the most important season of their careers. I think there are a lot of injuries going on around the world of figure skating.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

From sports.ru:

"
The Russian Figure Skating Federation (FFKR) explained the nature of the injury of the Russian figure skater Daria Usacheva.

Today Usacheva experienced pain while trying to perform a triple flip in the warm-up before performing in the short program at the Japanese Grand Prix . She had to withdraw from the competition.

“During the execution of the jumping element, the athlete had a ligament tear of one of the internal muscles of the right leg in the growth zone of the femur, which, unfortunately, is a fairly common case in world sports practice and is typical for athletes aged 13-17.

This injury requires not very long-term treatment and rehabilitation. In 99 percent of cases, an athlete returns to normal sports activities, ”the FFKR reported .

Earlier, Match TV reported that Usacheva's preliminary diagnosis was a trochanteric fracture of the hip."

 

[love_skate2011]

We love figure skating but it is a brutal sport physically. I don't want her to think her career is in jeopardy at 15. But the reality is there are a lot of girls gunning for Dasha's spot now.

After the Olympics season I think a couple of the ways are going to leave TT. Is the stress of the Olympic season must be massive and then you have the whole is the whole ***** thing impacting the world in the most important season of their careers. I think there are a lot of injuries going on around the world of figure skating.

Plushenko and Davydov mushrooming skaters home grown is good for russian ladies and the sport
monopoly is bad is anything, asks economics or even in politics.

Trusova or Kostornaya might leave again after this season
If This is Tuks last season, Mishin will have a room to accept an elite top ladies, Trusova could be a good match for a long career.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

Except I was under the impression/belief that Alexei Mishin is only coaching until Liza retires?

I'm not sure who Eteri will try to poach, really. Samodelkina is perfectly set up with Davydov and being his muse. Titova, Muravyeva are developing amazingly with Plushenko.

We all knew that the Eteri's 3 girls in this 05-06 class only had Kamila. Daria never improved much, added nothing over four years. Maiia, well, Maiia is a hard worker and earned her quads. It's just that her overall skating compared to any of those younger girls just stands out as not good enough. At least she has her quads, but Maiia should definitely be scared of Samodelkina, Muravya and Petrosyan next season, if not in six weeks at RusNats. Plus Akatyeva.