Royalty Thread #8.....A Pregnant Pause

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allezfred said:
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I wonder what her push present will be.

If the baby is overdue (we don't know that it is) I hope they don't wait too long to induce. When my mother had her last baby they let her go about 2 wks beyond her due date. He got too big & broke her tailbone. And yes, some ppl lose babies that way.
 
Uh I was three weeks overdue and my mom was fine. I just wasn't ready to come out yet. I'm sorry for all the people who lost money this week because they placed bets on the first week of May being when the baby would come out but ...
 
taf2002 said:
I wonder what her push present will be.

If the baby is overdue (we don't know that it is) I hope they don't wait too long to induce. When my mother had her last baby they let her go about 2 wks beyond her due date. He got too big & broke her tailbone. And yes, some ppl lose babies that way.
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My cousin went 42 weeks and 3 days with one of her kids because she was a young single mom on Medicaid at that time and Medicaid doesn't pay for inductions. She also had a kidney infection. Baby was almost ten pounds and broke her tailbone among other complications. It was awful.

Beyond 42 weeks, babies are at risk of a number of complications including infections, the placenta no longer providing nutrition and stillbirth. I would assume she will be induced soon if she is over that. But, then again, there have been reports that she wanted an all natural home birth and her yoga teacher mother may be one to eschew medical care. So we'll see what happens.
 
The whole natural birth thing has become a craze. I had a co-worker who was obese, on her third pregnancy in as many years (all unplanned), and throughout the pregnancy she refused to see a doctor or get an ultrasound. She said she wanted an "all-natural" birth. But what ended up happening is she ended up putting all her trust in a midwife who frankly I thought scammed her. She went into maternity leave TWO MONTHS before she was actually due because the midwife "felt" she was dilating. She lost out on some desperately needed income because she listened to the midwife.

But she got her perfect bathtub natural birth which is what she wanted so there's that.
 
I know of two kids who will continue to have health issues (one has ongoing seizures) because the moms refused medical intervention because they were determined to have a “natural birth.” Pregnant women should take a walk in an old grave yard and realize how many moms and babies died because there were NO medical interventions. Find a doctor your trust, and then trust the doctor you found.
 
canbelto said:
The whole natural birth thing has become a craze.

mag said:
I know of two kids who will continue to have health issues (one has ongoing seizures) because the moms refused medical intervention because they were determined to have a “natural birth.” Pregnant women should take a walk in an old grave yard and realize how many moms and babies died because there were NO medical interventions. Find a doctor your trust, and then trust the doctor you found.
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But she got her perfect bathtub natural birth which is what she wanted so there's that.
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I haven't had children and think that if I had, I would have wanted more drugs and less pain. But some women want to give birth naturally and consider it to be a richer and more meaningful experience.

I think that when home births are planned, access to medical facilities/help is usually considered should an emergency arise or intervention be needed.

Consequently, I expect that very few babies who are born naturally are harmed because of it.
 
Japanfan said:
....But some women want to give birth naturally and consider it to be a richer and more meaningful experience.
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And here in lies the problem. The “experience” should be secondary to the result. Having a baby is not “an experience” per se. You are bringing another life into the world. Like people who have grown complacent about diseases like measles because of vaccinations, we (the general we) have grown complacent about child birth. Child birth is nothing like what is shown on TV. Babies do die.
 
mag said:
And here in lies the problem. The “experience” should be secondary to the result. Having a baby is not “an experience” per se. You are bringing another life into the world. Like people who have grown complacent about diseases like measles because of vaccinations, we (the general we) have grown complacent about child birth. Child birth is nothing like what is shown on TV. Babies do die.
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There is a balance. Lots of people opt for what are often unnecessary interventions in the interest of comfort or because they’re afraid of the process. I’ve heard a ton of people talk about their decisions around childbirth with flat out bad information that just feeds their fears. There’s a huge cultural component to childbirth too. As long as things are going well you really don’t need any intervention. But there’s also lots of potential for things to go wrong. Neither of my kids would have survived childbirth (and maybe not me) without modern medical care but I still felt no need for pain meds and my preference was a more “natural” birth but I also knew that if that things didn’t go smoothly I had great medical care available. The important thing is that women are making informed decisions with good information around childbirth.

Sorry to contribute to the thread drift but I’m writing this while my two day old daughter is nursing so birth is very much top of mind :lol:
 
mag said:
I know of two kids who will continue to have health issues (one has ongoing seizures) because the moms refused medical intervention because they were determined to have a “natural birth.” Pregnant women should take a walk in an old grave yard and realize how many moms and babies died because there were NO medical interventions. Find a doctor your trust, and then trust the doctor you found.
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I know a young man with lifelong issues related to loss of oxygen during birth because his mother was determined to have an all natural home birth and refused a hospital transfer when the midwife recommended it. The damage had been done by the time her husband got frantic enough to call an ambulance. Their son was born by emergency c-section a bit too late.
 
made_in_canada said:
There is a balance. Lots of people opt for what are often unnecessary interventions in the interest of comfort or because they’re afraid of the process. I’ve heard a ton of people talk about their decisions around childbirth with flat out bad information that just feeds their fears.
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And that would be the part where you find a doctor you trust and then you trust the doctor you found. There is also nothing wrong with not wanting a lot of pain. As someone who has gone through this three times, first time the babies didn’t make it, second time was better bit still required weeks in ICU, third time was a charm, I can tell you that at the end of the day all that bullshit about the experience means nothing. Deliver the baby and take it home. Keep your eye on the main prize! I would also recommend staying off the Internet. Yes there is some good information out there, but there are just way too many crazy woo peddlers waiting to prey on soon to be moms who lack confidence.

At the end of the day, mom and babe alive is the goal. Anything else is just gravy.
 
Various sources on Twitter are reporting that Meghan is in labour. Nothing official yet, as far as I can tell. Wishing her nothing but the best, and a healthy mama and baby at the end of wherever her journey takes her over the next little while.
 
Yay, hopefully we will have news of a birth by the time I finish work tonight. Gah I just want to stay and watch tv all afternoon now :lol:
 
SHARPIE said:
Yay, hopefully we will have news of a birth by the time I finish work tonight. Gah I just want to stay and watch tv all afternoon now :lol:
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Trouble is no one knows exactly where she is - at least with Kate we knew where she was. :) Hopefully Meghan has gone into labour naturally and has a smooth and untroubled birth experience. All the palace has to do is just let us know if its a girl or a boy - then announce the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will give more details in their own time.

The BBC is reporting that Meghan went into labour early this morning and that Harry is by her side!!!
 
The grammatical error in the official BP announcement hurts my heart ("Prince Harry was by Her Royal Highnesses' side" ... exactly how many people are in labour?). You would expect the press office at BP to have *some* standards. Come on!

ETA: Also, the past tense in the announcement is interesting. "Was by her side." That, coupled with the last line ("An announcement will be made soon.") makes me think the baby is already here. Fingers crossed.
 
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mag said:
There will be someone there to make her meals, make the bed, hold the baby while she showers, hold the baby while she does yoga. Someone else will deal with cleaning the bathroom, washing the dishes, vacuuming the dust bunnies.
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The British royals live in a bubble that includes an amazing luxurious lifestyle at their fingertips that none of us can even fully contemplate because we will always be observers on the outside speculating. However, despite the luxuries that are available and the lack of ever having to worry about certain practical things, being a royal is such a balancing act that involves a lifetime of scrutiny (particularly in Great Britain) that not everyone is cut out for, or can easily handle.

There are quite a number of so-called 'commoners' who married into royalty after living a relatively 'normal' existence (albeit some of these ladies were in very public, glamorous, or high-powered professions, or already had a high social status: Kate, Meghan, Diana, Sarah, Autumn (Phillips), Birgitte (of Gloucester), Mary (of Denmark), Letizia (of Spain), Grace (of Monaco), Charlene (of Monaco), Angela (of Liechtenstein), Sofia (of Sweden), Maxima (of the Netherlands), Marie (of Denmark), Mette-Marit (of Norway), Noor (of Jordan), Michiko (of Japan), Masako (of Japan) ... The list continues, and it includes a number of men who married into royalty.

In regard to the Sussexes' lifestyle, reportedly they don't take advantage of the kind of household help we might expect they would have as royals (although I would imagine someone comes in occasionally to help clean). Meghan is said to do all of the cooking, likely because she's used to it and she enjoys it:
https://www.theroyalfamilyuk.com/20...e-harry-every-night-and-does-her-own-make-up/
https://www.chatelaine.com/living/entertainment/what-does-meghan-markle-do-all-day/
https://people.com/royals/meghan-ma...eak-their-silence-we-want-to-speak-the-truth/

Per Meghan's friends: "... the perception of their lifestyle and the reality are two different things. Meg cooks for herself and Harry every single day." Since Harry is known to have always wanted to live a 'normal' existence, this set-up must make him happy. I don't think much has changed with their move to Frogmore Cottage.

Obviously, help is always available and accessible. But I get the impression that both Harry & Meghan are not too interested in having a lot of staff intruding on the privacy of their daily family life, much less sharing too much with the public, or allowing access to the raving, over-critical media. I doubt their approach to assistance inside their home will significantly change once the baby arrives, at least not to the degree you have suggested. :p

The Sussexes are expected to eventually employ a nanny, and I would suspect there is maintenance staff and housekeepers who do not live in at Frogmore, but who may reside nearby on the Windsor grounds. RPOs are definitely situated near Frogmore Cottage. Doria is there visiting to help out over the coming weeks. Doria may apparently spend some time at Windsor after the baby's birth, depart for L.A., and return for frequent visits over the coming months (as she has reportedly already been doing).

So Meghan is in labor and an announcement will soon be made.
https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/...han-labor-1st-child-palace-announces-62376637
 
Apparently the baby is born - it's a boy - Prince Harry is giving an interview!!!

ETA: Baby is 7lb, 3oz -not huge but a decent weight. Harry tells us we should see the baby - and Mom - in a couple of days and that they were still thinking about names.!!

And Harry also said that they had a baby boy 'early this morning ' - whilst grinning from ear to ear!! And the palace announced she gave birth at 5:26am this morning - cue the astrologists going mad on the birth chart :D - though not sure where she gave birth just yet!!
 
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There's live coverage on BBC. It's interesting how everyone is waiting with bated breath, even as some people continue to somewhat look down their nose and claim the baby is not that important.

Dickie Arbiter, who didn't greet Harry dating Meghan with much enthusiasm is doing somersaults filling air time on the BBC trying to explain why Harry & Meghan are keeping things close to their chest. Arbiter and others (like Robert Jobson) fail to recognize that part of the reason M&H are restricting access is because the media has been so unrelentingly negative in their coverage of Meghan throughout her pregnancy, as well as in the immediate aftermath of learning of her courtship with Prince Harry.

And Harry has just spoken on camera!!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxH36irhwcO/ It's a boy!
I thought it might be a girl, but a boy it is. Harry looks so incredibly happy. And he said how proud he is of Meghan. :)

7 lbs. 3 oz. just reported by the BBC, as told to them by Buckingham Palace, and on the Sussex Instagram. Born at 5:26am British time.
 
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Looking positively awestruck. Congratulations to the happy new parents. Why am I always so sappy at a new birth? Usually not my style.
 
Zemgirl said:
Here is the official announcement on the royal family's website. It does not add anything new.

I would not want the whole world to know I was in labor, so good thing I am not married to any royal person, or pregnant ;) Great news that all went well!
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Well to be honest the announcement was made way after she had given birth - just as the Duke and Duchess wanted. Hopefully Meghan is getting some well earned rest as we speak at home.
 
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