Royalty Thread #7: Do They Get Frequent Flier Miles?

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Catherine M said:
Doesn't Jack have ties to Clooney and company from being part of the high end hospitality industry?!? A guest list works both ways and some of these people could be from Jack's world.

Anyway, sorry there has been so much press about them "competing" with the other bride & groom but I do find them inviting folks to watch a bit much. Just go with some local kids waving and call it a day. Oh I also find it interesting that Jack and Eugenie are distant cousins through her mom's family line and the Brooksbanks. You never know who is related!
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Right. Let Eugenie have her special day. I think Jack & Eugenie have been very much inspired by the Meghan/Harry romance and royal wedding. There's nothing wrong with that. There's so much strife and difficulty and sadness going on in the world. I personally love a bit of royal wedding fever, and I'd love if E's wedding were televised, but I'm not sure it's gonna be. There's not the same level of interest worldwide. But Eugenie is a lovely young lady, and she should not be ridiculed or made fun of as the press often does do to her and her sister. Their parents are particular characters who have made mistakes (and Fergie is not all that bright), but both Andrew and Fergie love their daughters and have always joined together in putting them first in terms of raising them and being there for them emotionally. That means a lot.
 
Meghan (The Duchess of Sussex) is truly special. I love hearing about the work she has been doing behind the scenes with the women who suffered losses in the Grenfell Tower fire. The community cookbook project she spearheaded behind-the-scenes under the umbrella of the Royal Foundation is a great cause and a wonderful idea. Meghan met on many occasions with these women privately and then joined with them to help further their worthy and beneficial Hubb community kitchen effort. How lovely!

http://madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com/
http://meghansmirror.com/royal-styl...n/launch-of-community-cookbook-meghan-markle/

It's nice to see Duchess Meghan's mom join her and Prince Harry for the launch of the cookbook project at Kensington Palace today. And Meghan also gave a short speech (her first official public words since her marriage).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BMeJxRKxh4

The cookbook is already topping the charts and it won't even be released for a few days yet...
 
PDilemma said:
I don't hate Meghan. I don't know her. She may be lovely. She doesn't come off that way to me; she comes off as a very average actress playing a role.

I am tired of the over the top love of Meghan in the press and on the royal pages. And, yes, here. We have one poster who gushes and philosophizes over every breath the woman takes as if she is a combination of Marie Curie and Mother Teresa.

Yet when Eugenie is getting married, everything she does is wrong. And for bonus points in the over the top love of Meghan game, it somehow has something to do with Meghan. Actually, it has nothing to do with Meghan at all. I'm going to take a wild guess here: they probably barely know each other at this point.
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What she said!!
 
aftershocks said:
I think Jack & Eugenie have been very much inspired by the Meghan/Harry romance and royal wedding.
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Jack and Eugenie have been dating for years. If there was any inspiration going on (which I highly doubt) I am sure it was Harry and Meghan inspired by J&E.
 
aftershocks said:
I think Jack & Eugenie have been very much inspired by the Meghan/Harry romance and royal wedding.
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Really? No woman who is dating her eventual husband needs inspiration from anyone else's romance. Plus Eugenie was engaged before Meghan & Harry even met whether it was announced or not. I'm sure her planning was already in the works. I do feel that H&M stole her thunder in a way. She should have married before them or let more time elapse so the weddings weren't so close together.
 
taf2002 said:
She should have married before them
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I really wondered about this at the time. I am not sure what the rush was for Meghan and Harry. Surely there was some inkling about Eugenie? Now I have never understood the whole proposal thing. Seems to me getting married is one of, if not the biggest decision a person will ever make. Leaving it up to a man to pick a ring and decide to propose seems ridiculous at best. I am in favour of a discussion between two adults and picking out the rings together. After all, theoretically you are going to wear the thing for the rest of your life!

Anyway, I think is too bad that the cousins couldn’t have discussed it allowed Eugenie and Jack to have their day first.
 
taf2002 said:
To be fair, E&J dated for 10 years. They had plenty of time to have their day first.
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Very true. Of course it is quite possible they were planning when Meghan and Harry took them by surprise. Who knows? Meghan and Harry seemed to be in a big hurry. The date wasn’t awfully close to Kate’s due date. If she had been late by a week it could have been difficult. I assumed we would have a pregnancy announcement by now just based on the rush.
 
mag said:
Jack and Eugenie have been dating for years. If there was any inspiration going on (which I highly doubt) I am sure it was Harry and Meghan inspired by J&E.
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:lol: Why so sensitive? For gawd's sake. It is very possible to be dating for many years and to know that you've found the right person, and to know that you are heading to the altar at some point. And then you see a close relative fall head-over-heels in love with a gorgeous partner, and you end up becoming inspired by their intense love story and by some of their royal wedding choices. That doesn't mean copying them, it just means enjoying seeing a close relative happily in love, and appreciating your own loving happiness all the more. There's no doubt E&J were inspired by the well-received, positive and upbeat engagement interview M&H gave. :p

In a snippet from a new documentary, the Duchess of Sussex speaks about how much her husband's family appreciate the thoughtful creativity and touching symbolism of the embroidered veil she created with her designer, to reflect all the countries of the Commonwealth: https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/1043803451409539072

Obviously, E&J were always headed for marriage. It was just a matter of when. I think it's pretty cool that Eugenie & Harry will share the same wedding year. :) I'm all for royal wedding fever. :cheer2: I hope Eugenie feels like a Queen on her wedding day! :glamor: We already know she's a blood royal Princess. ;) I don't get all the criticism of Eugenie's wedding choices. OTOH, I also don't get the oversensitive persnicketyness and taking sides re which lovebirds inspired the other lovebirds first and in what ways and by how much. :COP: I simply made a conversational observation. It's not rocket science. :rofl:

It has been gossiped that at some point during M&H's courtship, E&J went on a double date with them. It must be lots of fun to see a cousin you are close with in age and intimacy finding someone special and fairly quickly tying the knot (when said cousin had previously been despondent about being able to find the right person, especially after the someone you'd tried to hook him up with didn't work out: Cressida Bonas -- Cressida was actually on the rebound from another relationship when she began dating Harry, and she's now back with her prior boyfriend).


The Duchess of Sussex will be attending her first solo engagement tomorrow, September 25:
https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1041975939306016769
The opening of the Oceania exhibit at the Royal Academy of Arts. A nice undertaking that segues nicely with M&H's upcoming South Pacific tour in late October.

An athletic awards event today presided over by the Duke & Duchess of Sussex:
http://madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com/
http://meghansmirror.com/royal-style/meghan-harry-attend-coach-core-awards/
 
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aftershocks said:
:lol: Why so sensitive? For gawd's sake.
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Not sensitive in the least. Just disagreeing with you. I see absolutely nothing in the press that would lead me to believe E&J were in anyway inspired by M&H. I add that to the fact that E&J have been together for years, were most likely at least talking about marriage before Harry even met Meghan, and I see no reason to assume their was any inspiration either way.

ETA: If anything, I would say both liked the feel of Edward and Sophie’s wedding, along with the good Karma that they have remained married, and decided that the basic structure would work well for them.
 
mag said:
Very true. Of course it is quite possible they were planning when Meghan and Harry took them by surprise. Who knows? Meghan and Harry seemed to be in a big hurry. The date wasn’t awfully close to Kate’s due date. If she had been late by a week it could have been difficult. I assumed we would have a pregnancy announcement by now just based on the rush.
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:huh: Come on now! :P I think you are taking your speculation a bit too far. M&H simply fell in love practically at first sight, and as they have said: "One of the first things we bonded over was the passions we share..." for giving back to others and "making change for good." They are both mature adults in their thirties who know their own minds and were ready to find the right person. Once you do, and you know it feels right, why on earth should they wait an overly long time just for appearance sake? They took the time that they needed and they kept their courtship as under-the-radar as they possibly could in light of Meghan's high profile job and Harry's high profile royal fame. They are both humble as well as proud of their accomplishments, and they are obviously very thankful for the love they have found together. And they are going to continue protecting their privacy in the face of undue speculation.

Everyone who are being so overly angsty in a negative comparison way between two young royal couples in love, are rather off-base. I get the sense that Harry & Eugenie love each other as cousins and probably have a good time hanging with each other out of the public eye. Meghan is also from all accounts and all evidence a supportive and caring person who is in no way attempting to make joining the British royal family about aggrandizing herself.

All of the OTT media and royal watcher speculativeness and gnarly brouhaha over nothing is not on the royals' radar. And all the heavy dislike for the Duchess of Sussex coming from many quarters and from a couple of individuals in particular on FSU is just that: heavy dislike and negativitiy. Yes, I personally really like Duchess Meghan and all the positive things she is doing amidst the uncalled for criticism and OTT hateful jealousy. Plus, similar to what Meghan said in the VF interview last year, I too enjoy a great love story! Especially when it happens (in these sad times) between two young people who truly care about others and who have a heart for giving and for trying to make the world a better place.
 
mag said:
Not sensitive in the least. Just disagreeing with you. I see absolutely nothing in the press that would lead me to believe E&J were in anyway inspired by M&H. I add that to the fact that E&J have been together for years, were most likely at least talking about marriage before Harry even met Meghan, and I see no reason to assume their was any inspiration either way.

ETA: If anything, I would say both liked the feel of Edward and Sophie’s wedding, along with the good Karma that they have remained married, and decided that the basic structure would work well for them.
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You are reading way too much into my simple observation that Eugenie is likely overall inspired by M&H's loving union, which is a more generalized observation than necessarily specific. It doesn't mean E&J are copying anything, nor that they are getting married because Harry got married! I mean, please! :drama: Seriously, if there are two close relatives who grew up together and who are around the same age and who happened to double date with significant others and who happen to end up marrying in the same year, where is the problem with thinking that the marriage of the first couple has provided some inspiration in a general, uplifting way to the second couple? Good grief! Of course, Eugenie & Jack have been together for years and already had an understanding. Eugenie obviously desired for Harry to be happy in love too, and that's why she introduced him to Cressida in 2014, which didn't end up working out. When it works, it works, when it doesn't, it doesn't. Eugenie must be extremely happy for Harry, and for all we know, she may even tease him behind-the-scenes for suddenly finding the right person and jumping the gun before her. :D It just turned out the way it did unexpectedly because Harry & Meghan met and the world turned on end for both of them in a big way. The rest is history. :violin: :) :rollin:

A number of royals have married at Windsor, which is a very special family home (and burial locale) for the British royals. It's QEII's favorite residence and it holds a great deal of historic significance and resonance. I think it's cool that the entire Windsor venue, including Frogmore House, holds special meaning for Meghan & Harry (as announced by KP press office). That's clearly why Harry and Meghan did not choose the more traditional Westminster Abbey venue, which was available to them.

I don't think there's any doubt that Eugenie and Jack were always going to marry at Windsor, as did Peter Phillips in 2008. Possibly Eugenie has looked back somewhat to 1999 when the Wessexes married at Windsor, but I think it's more likely she recalls Peter's wedding, and especially Harry's recent wedding, since she was only 9 years old in 1999. I believe that Eugenie surely, as a young woman who is going to marry at the same locale in the same year as her cousin Harry, was definitely thinking on May 19 about her own upcomng wedding and about some of what she wants to do. It dawned a beautiful day for Harry & Meghan at Windsor in May, and I hope that Eugenie has a most beautiful fall day in October with all the gorgeous colors of the season.
 
OMG, so much hatred here, the protesters that they don't hate reminds me of the "thou doest protest too much".

Quite honestly we don't know the Royals personally and really don't know how anyone feels about their wedding.

I read this thread for the entertainment value, news on babies, and other royals news. I would never claim to know what they feel or how appropriate or inappropriate a relationship is.
 
PDilemma said:
I don't hate Meghan. I don't know her. She may be lovely. She doesn't come off that way to me; she comes off as a very average actress playing a role.

I am tired of the over the top love of Meghan in the press and on the royal pages. And, yes, here. We have one poster who gushes and philosophizes over every breath the woman takes as if she is a combination of Marie Curie and Mother Teresa.
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Gushing over the royals and celebrities is normal, like it or hate it.

And of course Meghan is playing a role. All royals are. It comes with being a symbol.

It may be the 'average actress' quality that makes Meghan so appealing to the public. It's the 'ordinary girl meets the fairy prince' mythology.

If you need to hate on anyone, hate on the public that adores royals and Meghan. The adoration and attention are not Meghan's fault. If anything, she is to be commented for how well she handles them, given that she wasn't groomed to be a royal in the public eye.
 
Japanfan said:
Gushing over the royals and celebrities is normal, like it or hate it.

And of course Meghan is playing a role. All royals are. It comes with being a symbol.

It may be the 'average actress' quality that makes Meghan so appealing to the public. It's the 'ordinary girl meets the fairy prince' mythology.

If you need to hate on anyone, hate on the public that adores royals and Meghan. The adoration and attention are not Meghan's fault. If anything, she is to be commented for how well she handles them, given that she wasn't groomed to be a royal in the public eye.
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I don't know what you mean by "average actress"

I don't know that a television actress is an "ordinary girl". The red carpets, posing, free dresses, jewels to borrow, make up, hair, etc is in anyway ordinary.

And, aren't we all playing a role, really. There is something that I find inauthentic with Meghan. I don't see it with the other royals. But, that is, obviously me, and just my opinion. Harry is authentic enough for both of them.
 
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A nice solo event for the Duchess of Sussex today visiting the Oceania exhibit at the Royal Academy:
http://madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com/
http://meghansmirror.com/royal-styl...oceania-exhibit-at-her-first-solo-engagement/

Meghan wore elegant and ubiquitous black again. It's a safe and conservative choice, and it's okay I suppose. It's picky to second guess, but I don't like her sartorial choice here, and I don't think the styling of the outfit is particularly flattering. But again, by now we know her fall-back go-to is always black, and she doesn't seem interested in making any kind of stand-out statement dressing for the most part, nor does she seem interested in choosing bright colors, not even for a solo outing. It's not even an attempt at trying for an Oceania theme sartorially, just safe midi-style LBD. :yawn:

It will definitely be interesting to see what she wears during the South Pacific tour. Will she pull out any stops then? Oh well, there's always enough petty criticism thrown Duchess Meghan's way, so I'll stop my neither here nor there complaining about no bright colors and her bent for staying safe and fitting in. ;) She can and will do as she pleases.

AxelAnnie said:
There is something that I find inauthentic with Meghan. I don't see it with the other royals. But, that is, obviously me, and just my opinion.
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Yep, obviously just your opinion. :drama:

All of the royals present themselves as pretty authentic to me, including the Duchess of Sussex. None of us observers on the sidelines can ever know what it's really like on the inside, behind palace walls. What I do know is that Meghan did not suddenly get swept into meeting high profile people simply because she fell in love with a Prince. She already led a high-profile, accomplished, high society lifestyle beyond her celebrated television acting career. She was already deeply involved in humanitarian efforts and indeed she was very successful with entrepreneurial projects aside from acting that contributed to her substantial wealth. She gave up a lot to marry her British Prince.

I believe Meghan is completely accepted by her new family as has been reported, not only because Harry deeply loves her and she completes him, but also because Meghan is genuinely caring, smart, thoughtful and authentically herself, notwithstanding her first-year exploratory sartorial journey. :D Meghan and Harry fell in love, and the rest is history. Jealousy rearing it's ugly head from certain quarters is fairly transparent. :lol:
 
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AxelAnnie said:
I don't know what you mean by "average actress"
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It was @PDDilemma's term.

I think she meant 'working actress' as opposed to a celebrity or critically acclaimed actress.

I don't think MM was a household name prior to her marrying Prince Harry. I had never heard of her, nor heard of 'Suits'. Maybe the show is/was watched more widely in the US.

I don't know that a television actress is an "ordinary girl".
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She said "average actress", not "ordinary girl".
 
Japanfan said:
It was @PDDilemma's term.

I think she meant 'working actress' as opposed to a celebrity or critically acclaimed actress.

I don't think MM was a household name prior to her marrying Prince Harry. I had never heard of her, nor heard of 'Suits'. Maybe the show is/was watched more widely in the US.



She said "average actress", not "ordinary girl".
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Nah, she said both:
'ordinary girl meets the fairy prince' mythology.
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Duchess Meghan has never been 'ordinary' in her life. :glamor: But yeah, there will continue to be all kinds of characterizations, speculations and mythologizing surrounding her and Prince Harry's real-life love story. At bottom, it's just a wonderful love story between two people who seemingly were fated to meet. They had mutual friends in common, so it's not at all a fairy tale in the sense of the Cinderella 'rags-to-riches' archetype. They met as thirty-something adults in our current-day more progressive culture, and they met on equal terms. In fact, Harry actually admitted during the engagement interview that he's the one who needed to 'up his game,' in order to win Meghan over, not the other way around. :D Let's face it, they both feel lucky to have found each other. They have both expressed thankfulness, gratitude and full awareness of the need to protect and cherish their relationship, which Harry has said, "comes first."

That the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are both interested in also devoting their lives to giving back to others is an exemplary bonus, which they seem to treat as an honor and a passionate duty.

taf2002 said:
I would like to see a picture of her as a young woman. I'll bet she was much prettier than Meghan. She has an adorable face.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5073633/The-look-hooked-Meghan-s-dad.html

I don't like Daily Fail, but you can see close-up photos of Meghan's Dad's and Mom's high school pictures in the above link.

And the below shows a series of old photos of Meghan as a toddler in individual settings with both her young parents:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5...-snaps-of-meghan-markle-will-melt-your-heart/
The black-and-white photo of Meghan and Doria in profile at a park is adorable.
 
Most everyone's HS photo is hideous but the other pictures that show Doria as a young adult are prettier. But I reverse my opinion - Meghan is prettier than her mum IMO.
 
Japanfan said:
I think she meant 'working actress' as opposed to a celebrity or critically acclaimed actress.
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She might have attained that status, in time.
Suits was her first major "splash" and would have led to other roles; had her life not taken a different course.

The DoS was elegant and sophisticated at last night's event, IMO.
 
Here's the much talked about ITV Queen of the World documentary about QEII, her family, and the Commonwealth. This is part 1 of a larger series. Duchess Meghan is featured in this episode discussing the design and significance of her wedding veil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkIlZxZBpRQ

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be making their first official visit to Sussex on October 3:
http://madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com/
 
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