Royalty Thread #7: Do They Get Frequent Flier Miles?

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Calm down. I’m not psychic, but I am looking at logic. While there isn’t a requirement for Meghan to be there, it would be in poor taste for her not to be there. She’s still an American citizen and he’s the president of the United States.

I've so had it with "he's the President". Who freaking cares what the guy's title is? He's a racist, a violator of human rights, a liar and a crook, and no title can change that.
I would believe that Meghan is first and foremost a British royal now. Either way, no title alone can make anyone deserving of respect.


Lord Mountbatten will marry his partner James Coyle later this summer. It's the royal family's first same sex marriage. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ver-same-sex-marriage/?utm_term=.73ae23f7141c
 
I've so had it with "he's the President". Who freaking cares what the guy's title is? He's a racist, a violator of human rights, a liar and a crook, and no title can change that.
I would believe that Meghan is first and foremost a British royal now. Either way, no title alone can make anyone deserving of respect.


Lord Mountbatten will marry his partner James Coyle later this summer. It's the royal family's first same sex marriage. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ver-same-sex-marriage/?utm_term=.73ae23f7141c

That's the point. He won't be the last flagrant violator of human rights she will come face to face with. I hate him him more than words can say. Boy oh boy... but I do know PR wise she has to do this at some point. Best to get this over with now.
 
:rofl: :lol: I don't have time to join the convo right now, but I'll be back. :D

However, 'logically' the extra extra OT Trump bs needs to be taken to PI forthwith... :duh:
 
That's the point. He won't be the last flagrant violator of human rights she will come face to face with. I hate him him more than words can say. Boy oh boy... but I do know PR wise she has to do this at some point. Best to get this over with now.

I can't imagine why you think PR dictates that she should be there. And I really doubt there would be a backlash if she isn't. I also doubt that Harry will be there. But I guess we'll find out on the 13th.
 
I can't imagine why you think PR dictates that she should be there. And I really doubt there would be a backlash if she isn't. I also doubt that Harry will be there. But I guess we'll find out on the 13th.

I’ve explained several times. But this is getting way off topic at this point. We’ll see on the 13th.
 
Sorry, been a busy few days. Took forever to get home on Friday as there was an Ed Sheeran concert on locally ?.

Royal Ascot was the most amazing day! It was like being at a really good wedding or party!

I didn’t get close enough to get a decent picture of HMQ but of course she looked lovely.

My favourite part was the singing round the Bandstand at the end. “Land Of Hope and Glory”and all sorts of pomp/flag waving. :cheer: Almost made me feel positive about Brexit :lol:

Least favourite part , paying £12 for a prawn bagel!
 
@AxelAnnie, you posted the above article but you don't say where it came from. Is it a complete quote? Some of it feels like something is missing.
 
Taf2002...it is from Fox news ....the link takes you there. I am not sure if it is the entire article....i had a hard time copying.
 
Crown Prince Hussein is on most of the "hot royals that are still single now that Harry is married" lists out there. Very good looking and very accomplished young man too.

His father got to marry for love so it should be the same for him and with his mom being such a force, it will be interesting to see who he ends up with.
 
Harry and Meghan accompanied the Queen to an event last night for young leaders, and with all the amazing young people in the room, from many nations, who had done such wonderful work, the majority of comments on the photos and articles were filled with angst because Meghan had dared to cross her legs in the presence of HM. :rolleyes: Duchess slant and all, but because they were crossed, it was the cause of much :drama:
 
That's just silly - she is still trying to get to grips with the protocols and I really doubt HM was offended as some people are saying!!

I want to find some decent pictures of the dress which is again in a soft blush colour. The neckline is lovely - in her style but without being too much - this is the neckline she should have had on her TotC dress IMO!! The cut seems classic but I'm not finding great pictures as of yet - I will go a hunting!!

ETA: The Daily Mail comes to my rescue :)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5887429/Meghan-Harry-join-Queen-Buckingham-Palace.html
 
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Back to Duchess Meghan's clothing. ;) Here are better looks at what Duchess Meghan wore to the Commonwealth event with the Queen and Prince Harry:

http://madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com/
http://meghansmirror.com/royal-style/meghan-harry-join-the-queen-for-the-queens-leader-awards/

I like this Prada look a lot, better than her dress at Royal Ascot. The cream color is similar to the outfit Meghan wore to Cheshire with the Queen, yet the skirt has that extra flare and it's a two-piece outfit with double-breasted buttons. And ahh, once again a modest boatneck bodice, so we get to see more of her neckline and her arms once again. :D Still it's quite apparent that Meghan is feeling her way sartorially in her new role. OTOH, I don't think Meghan is overly concerned with style issues. She likely doesn't want to make her clothes the focus of her new role. At the same time, she enjoys clothes and will hopefully be able to have a bit of fun with being more edgy as time passes. Right now she appears to be sticking to a conservative image IMO. We'll see if her color palette changes as time goes by... Seems as if she's sticking mostly to black, white, navy, cream, pastel pinks, greens, and plaids on occasion.

The OTT about Meghan discreetly crossing her legs is a non-story. She's doing it in the approved 'Duchess-slant' style. I guess there always has to be something to scrutinize and nitpick about.

I’ve looked at Meghan’s schedule. She returns from Ireland on the 11th and Trump arrives on the 13th. That’s not a coincidence.

I will bet that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are in no way scheduling their itinerary around DTrump. :rolleyes: So no, I don't see anything 'coincidental' about M&H going to Dublin on July 10-11, and probably returning to London on July 12, or late on July 11. The royal calendar is scheduled quite a bit in advance usually. If the DTrump visit transpires as it's being reported, the Queen is likely to be the only member of the royals involved in the 'head-of-state' photo-op. Supposedly DTrump will be visiting the Queen at Windsor Castle. I seriously doubt that M&H are going to return from their Dublin trip and then head to Windsor on the 13th, especially to see DTrump! :drama: It's not in the cards. Any extra about this I will take to P.I.
https://people.com/royals/president...elizabeth-at-harry-and-meghans-wedding-venue/
 
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That's just silly - she is still trying to get to grips with the protocols and I really doubt HM was offended as some people are saying!!

UM - back up just a bit. This is her JOB. Would you not learn and execute the requirements for your job? I bet she said the lines she was given in the script. This should be just that straight forward.

Newsweek
Prince Harry does benefit from the £76.1 million, or $100 million, that the Queen is granted each year by Parliament to maintain and perform the duties of her role. With that money, she maintains his home in Kensington Palace as well as many of the other palaces and gateways that he will enjoy with Markle in the years to come.

Either someone is giving her bad advice, or she is flaunting her will in place of custom and procedures. I am going to assume she is perfectly competent to know and make sure she follows protocol.
 
^^ Please. Duchess Kate has often discreetly crossed her legs in the same fashion as Duchess Meghan while sitting. I think Meghan certainly knows a lot more than we would about 'royal protocol' requirements in general and specifically during engagements with the Queen.

Meghan seems well-rested and very much at ease as she continues to chart her course as HRH Duchess of Sussex. It looks to me like she's a hit with most members of her husband's immediate and extended family. At Royal Ascot, riding in the carriage, Meghan seemed very friendly with Sophie, Countess of Wessex. And quite clearly, Meghan is well-liked by Prince Charles and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, as well as by the Queen.
 
UM - back up just a bit. This is her JOB. Would you not learn and execute the requirements for your job? I bet she said the lines she was given in the script. This should be just that straight forward.

Newsweek


Either someone is giving her bad advice, or she is flaunting her will in place of custom and procedures. I am going to assume she is perfectly competent to know and make sure she follows protocol.

Yes she was an actress and has to learn lines but could also redo her scenes if someone - including herself - flubbed the lines or the scene. There are no retakes in real life and after a lifetime of sitting down and crossing her legs she just did something natural to her. It isn't a steadfast rule either and done more to ensure retain modesty than because the Queen wills it.

I too am going to assume she is competent and is still getting to grips with protocols and unwritten rules. She is doing pretty well in my eyes with any missteps she does just being part of a learning curve.
 
^^ It's rather interesting and entertaining how people are so fixated on Meghan, Duchess of Sussex making 'missteps.' I haven't seen her doing anything wrong in terms of royal protocol. There is nothing strict about some of the things many people and the tabloids are fixated on. Everyone may as well get over the 'crossing legs' fixation. :lol: I do enjoy following M&H, and I like seeing what Meghan will wear and commenting on what she wears. That's largely because she was already a style icon after her success on Suits, before she met Prince Harry. She clearly enjoys fashion, food, travel, high style living, and sharing with others, as that is what her former blog The Tig was all about.

I think Duchess Meghan is obviously going through an overall transition in terms of her new role in life, as well as with what she wears. But even there, some of the criticisms can be OTT. I am just hoping to see Meghan find her own comfortable footing within the royal milieu in a way where she doesn't lose or end up sacrificing her personal authenticity, and the strength and dynamism of her own voice.

In terms of 'missteps,' there have been some styling misses, but I haven't seen any royal protocol 'missteps' which so many are fixated on finding or creating for the Duchess of Sussex. The only Markle-related missteps I've seen recently have come from Meghan's father, Thomas Markle, Snr., with his foot-in-mouth comments to the exploitation-prone tabloid media. At this rate, Markle Snr sadly will likely not get the opportunity to spend time with any grandchildren that his daughter Duchess Meghan may have with Prince Harry.

Another thing I try to keep in mind is that Meghan Markle did not get to where she was in life pre-Harry by worrying over what others thought of her. And I certainly don't see that changing now even with the eyes of the world on her and her prince of a husband. ;) The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have both learned how to keep their eyes on the prize. As they said in their engagement interview, their relationship is their first priority. And that's how it should be. They are also moving forward with deliberate speed in getting on with their passion for humanitarian projects, and with their ever expanding duties that come with being high profile members of the British monarchy. I find them both to be wonderful and positive young role models during these difficult times the world faces.
 
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Meghan is also having to deal not just with learning how to be a royal Duchess, but she's also studying so she can pass the British citizenship test. Her plate is rather full these days and just as everyone gave Kate a pass when she first married into the family, Meghan should get the same allowances. Especially since she and Harry are jumping right into full-time royal work as opposed to William and Kate who had more time to ease in to royal expectations.
 
I don't remember Kate having a lot of missteps. (Except the bikini top, and the skirt blowing up). There has to be someone schooling her in all of this. There are some easy rules to follow, particularly with clothing. And behavior with the queen...........how many things could there be to remember?

Readers Digest has it distilled down to 14 rules. And, at the top of the list is "Sit like a Royal"

Um - the UK Test for citizenship is 24 questions (as far as I can tell) and 77% is a passing grade.
 
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Is she?

As far as I can tell, she can't apply for British citizenship until she has lived in the U.K. for at least three years, i.e., some time in 2020 at the earliest.

https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/if-your-spouse-is-a-british-citizen

You are right. Three years...and they have said the requirement will not be waived.
Money Magazine

That means Markle has to follow the same process that ordinary people must go through, with no royal exceptions.
Like everyone else, she will have to pass the “Life in the U.K. test,” a 45 minutes test comprised of 24 questions about British traditions and customs, according to the government’s website. The test is based on the official Life in the U.K. handbook called “Life in the United Kingdom: A Guide For New Residents.”

Probably not taking up a lot of time just yet. :40beers:
 
Is she?

As far as I can tell, she can't apply for British citizenship until she has lived in the U.K. for at least three years, i.e., some time in 2020 at the earliest.

https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/if-your-spouse-is-a-british-citizen

It does not mean Duchess Meghan isn't spending time acclimating with the test questions. :p But we'll never know for sure, now will we, unless we become a fly on the wall inside NottCott. ;)

And wowza @AxelAnnie, it seems as if you're studying to become a Brit royal yourself. :rofl: Today's younger royals (and QEII as well) are much more relaxed about strict adherence to some of the fixations of royal protocol than are the pearl-clutchers who are on the outside looking in. :lol:
 
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Oh boy. Sticky spot??? Meghan taking on new royal duties is surely challenging and stressful at times, but I think the experience is also much more sweet, exciting and fulfilling than it is 'sticky.' Sure there's a learning curve, and lots of royal protocol and new in-laws, and a new culture and country. However, Meghan has previously learned how to survive the Markle family and parental divorce, how to ace Northwestern University, and how to navigate a first marriage that was falling apart, as well as learning how to conquer the unpredictable shoals of Hollywood, which surely involved figuring out how to smoothly get along with more than a few people she may not have liked. She worked long, hard overnight hours on the set of Suits for years, and she always hit her marks and knew her lines. :D I do not think many people realize just how 'unglamorous' the life of a working actor actually is, much less that of a struggling actor.

You need to read up on some of Meghan's past essays. She's said: "I've always wanted to be a woman who works, not a lady who lunches." After one of Meghan's trips to Rwanda with World Vision, she turned down a golden opportunity to attend a BAFTA ceremony, simply because her gut told her the quick turnaround from her charitable work in Rwanda to a glitzy red carpet movie-related event was not the right thing to do, despite her youthful dream of being invited to be part of that glamorous event.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are not living a fairy tale (as I've said many times). Sure it's rather heady to fall in love with a British royal prince, and become part of such an historic and prestigious family. I don't think some people realize though what a strong personality Meghan has, nor how smart, determined and ambitious she is. She's freely admitted to being 'endlessly ambitious and eager to exceed expectations.' And she said that way before there was any inkling she'd meet Prince Harry and take on the adventure of melding who she is as a woman and a feminist with life as a member of the modern British royal family.

A woman who really hated the aristocracy and the idea of a life of public service under the scrutiny of the public eye would never have seriously dated Prince Harry. She would rather have just :scream::scream: real fast in the opposite direction.

And it does have a fairy tale aspect to it, Aftershocks - the wealth, the privilege, the status, the glamor, and and being treated the way royalty are treated.
 
A woman who really hated the aristocracy and the idea of a life of public service under the scrutiny of the public eye would never have seriously dated Prince Harry. She would rather have just :scream::scream: real fast in the opposite direction.

And it does have a fairy tale aspect to it, Aftershocks - the wealth, the privilege, the status, the glamor, and and being treated the way royalty are treated.

Yep, there were two women Prince Harry was serious about previously who wanted no part of the scrutiny and royal downsides of marrying Harry. Fortunately, he learned from those relationships the importance of conducting any future serious courtship as privately as possible.

Of course, there is that 'fairytale' aspect of British Prince meets Hollywood actress who's American, divorced, and so-called 'bi-racial.' However, I believe thinking of it all as a romantic 'fairytale' is just the myth-like, convenient cliche. Based on what I've read and know from reading what Meghan's written, listening to her interviews, and following her Instagram and her former Tig website, she's someone who has always aspired to be successful in life and to live her best life and to enjoy every moment to the fullest. At the same time, she's always made it a priority to give back to others. She admits to being 'endlessly ambitious,' which is actually a good quality if you are looking to succeed, and not a quality to side-eye. On top of that, I think she has a strong personality, she knows what she wants and she goes after it, and she seemingly has always known how to network and how to hustle, and how to not let her spirits get down when the going is tough.

Therefore, she was already leading a so-called 'fairytale' life success story well before she met her Prince of England. IOW, she was happy, fulfilled, grateful, giving back, and also looking for more ways to share her success with others and to use her success as a platform for humanitarian projects. Meeting Prince Harry was certainly serendipity and fate. They were both ready to meet, and they had mutual friends so that's how they met. Meghan was not fazed by meeting Prince Harry, although I'm sure she was excited about the opportunity to meet him. I also believe her when she said during the engagement interview that one of her main concerns was whether or not he was kind. Obviously, once they met there was a spark between them. But most of all, they have a lot of things in common, despite what we see on the surface as them coming from different backgrounds.

Harry seemingly was to a degree bored with some aspects of the life he led behind palace walls (although of course, he also enjoys the many perks of being a royal, which obviously aided in his ability to woo and to win his sweetheart). Highbrow trips to Africa with security protection, spending romantic nights under the stars, and meeting Harry's wealthy friends and conservation-minded friends and humanitarian friends; VIP midnight visit to a London museum; being whisked right off the airplane to VIP checkout and then into a limousine without having to be dogged by cameras; stays at exclusive hideaway luxury hotels in Norway (to see the northern lights) and in Jamaica (keeping in mind that Meghan was a traveler who had seen the northern lights before, and seen Jamaica before). But of course, she now enjoys a headier privilege and status as HRH Duchess of Sussex to go along with a higher level of adventures with her handsome prince of a husband. ;) There is that, but with every luxury and every perk comes responsibility, and I think Meghan is aware of that reality. Still, obviously the perks and being in love can make the difficult challenges bearable. She did actually have to make sacrifices and give up a lot in order to marry Prince Harry.

To me the way Harry & Meghan came together is more of a great love story than it is a fairytale. I think in many ways they are very grounded and normal, and that part of Meghan's appeal for Harry is her normality, as well as her strength in carving out a successful career in Hollywood. I think it helped to build Harry's character that his mother taught him and Prince William to see another side of life, and to witness as youngsters how other people live. That helped make Harry and William down to earth and not stuck up.

We should realize from Diana's life that marrying into royalty is not really a fairytale. There's really no such thing as 'happily ever after.' So for the Duke & Duchess of Sussex, I think they both understand the commitment, dedication and personal attention it will take for them to nurture their relationship, to face and overcome challenges, and to persevere in making a difference for others with their humanitarian projects. At the same time, they will be carrying out increasing public duties involved with being part of the royal firm. None of that is easy. Sure it can be uplifting, rewarding, exciting, and glamorous, but there's always a downside. I think what makes Prince Harry happy is knowing he now has Meghan to share the downside and upside of being a royal with him. The grand things that he took for granted growing up royal, he surely can now appreciate more and enjoy to a greater degree with Meghan in his life.

For Duchess Meghan, maybe she does look upon this experience as a fairytale to a degree, but she has sense enough to know such a life involves hard work as well as adventures and luxuries (which she's not a complete stranger to in any case). Perhaps the royal wedding day was like a fairytale, but then at some point any couple, royal or commoner, has to come back down to earth. Nothing in life comes easy for anyone. I'm sure Meghan did not walk into this new life without understanding all that she was getting into (the heady glamour, the tough decisions behind-the-scenes, the restrictions and the perks, the downside of media intrusion, and the opportunity to make a difference on a larger scale). Fortunately, as Harry said during the engagement interview: "We make a great team." So they will have each other's backs. Prince Harry is probably pinching himself everyday that he not only finally found someone who's willing to fully embrace him and his royal life, but that she's also someone he's head over heels in love with, who's gorgeous, sexy, accomplished, supportive, genuinely sweet, shares his interests, and gets along well not only with his family, but also with the Queen's corgis. :D
 
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