IOC's decision: (clean) Russian athletes can compete under neutral flag at PyeongChang Olympics

The Oswald Commission has disqualified six more athletes from the Sochi Olympics. All six are from the Russian Women's Hockey Team. A seventh athlete has had there case closed do to insufficient evidence. The Russian Women's Hockey has been disqualified from Sochi. I think it's likely all seven were hockey players - that is the # that had been mentioned as under investigation in several articles that I've read. Also of note is that the # of cases has increased, it was 36, but apparently new evidence has resulted in 10 additional cases being opened. 33 cases so far have been settled with 31 suspensions and 2 athletes being cleared.
https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-sa...s-part-of-oswald-commission-findings?esi=true
 
It’s not just if doping tests are negative. It’s if they meet all requirements the screening panel demands. It could be what has the athlete done to change the culture of Russian sport.

What do they expect (say a Zagitova) to have done about that, except from training and not doping?
 
Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, but has there been any word about what happens regarding Russian Judges??
 
Russian Olympic Committee made an unanimously decision to allow Russian athletes to compete at Pyeongchang under neutral flag on today’s meeting
https://www.rbc.ru/society/12/12/2017/5a2fa2ba9a79473bbc411dc0?from=main
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ort-winter-games-athletes-draft-idUSKBN1E60Q4

As expected

I knew that people were making too much drama over that ''certain in their view'' non-participation of Russians in the case of giving leeway to take part for approved, neutral athletes (that mind you, still are marked as Olympic Athletes of Russia but with no national symbols attached). For me it was immediately clear all those words before the announcement of IOC were acting as a tactical move, sort of play to make this incoming decision as possibly mild as it's possible (with status quo from Rio Olympics desired) - not as an official declaration of boycott.

What?? You mean our self appointed experts were just spouting off to create drama?? No??? Not on here???

(Sarcasm intended for those of you who will miss that!)
 
As expected



What?? You mean our self appointed experts were just spouting off to create drama?? No??? Not on here???

(Sarcasm intended for those of you who will miss that!)
Putin said Neutral meant humiliation and would destroy Olympic movment. Posting what putin was saying wasn’t trying to be an expert or trying to create drama. He decided to do a major flip flop and decide OAR was fine. Whatever! But now all Russians who want to compete face an official who wanted to ban all Russians from Olympics.
 
Really? Is that serious?
“RusAF advised that Russian national team head coach Yuri Borzakovskiy would be leading a series of activities (including a social media campaign) in support of clean sport, supported by about eighty national team athletes, which have now started and are to continue for the whole of this season. Mr Vinogradov considered that this could have a huge impact, because Mr Borzakovskiy is a national hero and everyone respects him and listens to him. RusAF agreed to try to get Elena Isinbaeva to join the campaign too, because she has similar influence.”

https://www.iaaf.org/download/downl....pdf&urlSlug=iaaf-taskforce-report-july-20171

It’s very important that Russian athletes create social media to oppose doping. It could be Facebook, Twitter, VK! I don’t know about Medvedeva and zagitova on VK and how many of their posts oppose doping.
 
So you don’t think doping is a problem in a country that gave us Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and Justin Gatlin? Alrighty then..... :shuffle:
Yeah but you didn't see the administration of Clinton,Bush or Obama taking part in doping like you see happening under Putin. Big difference. If the US government ever put all their resources in state sponsored doping the US would dominate the medal count even more then it does now.
 
Were they on doping as well? I mean some marks can only be explained by being under a heavy influence, but...
If alcohol were a banned substance most of the judges and the coaches would not be allowed, and there are several athletes who would never have entered the Olympics to begin with - Bode Miller comes to mind.
 
@allezfred I think my big issue with you saying that the Nike training center scandal represents all of US sport, or at least all of US Track and Field. It doesn't. Like I said in my previous posts - not many athletes train there (only 7! US athletes trained there as of Rio), and even within US Track and field, most competitors don't train at the Nike facility. Doping on the US for the most part isn't institutional by government or corporate processes - it's on an individual level by individual athletes and coaches seeking it out. (Though there are exceptions to this)
It should also be noted that competitors at that facility were not even strictly American. Athletes including Mo Farrah (UK), Sifan Hassan (Netherlands), and Suguru Osako (Japan).
AND, it is incomparable because of the consequences. The BALCO scandal (referenced in the article you linked, and the scandal involving Marian Jones) led to the ruin of the athletes' careers', has significantly decreased the chances of some athletes reaching their sports' HoF, led to a federal investigation, got many of the involved individuals into legal trouble - including Marian Jones and Barry Bonds, forced pro leagues to take a harsher stance on doping, and forced the shutdown of BALCO. The Nike Scandal has a 250+ page USADA report and ongoing USADA investigation, the athletes themselves are under investigation for doping, the doctor involved may have his license taken away (pending an investigation by the Texas Medical board), and there's an ongoing FBI investigation into the situation.

Yeah, that article exposed a problem - two small corporate operations. Well, Nike isn't small, but the project in question was. Other than that, it couldn't provide evidence that corporations were sponsoring doping in the US.

ETA: Yes, alcohol and marijuana are 100% legal by WADA standards. So it's entirely possible that judges are not all there during competitions. I'd prefer to just joke about that though...
 
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Yeah but you didn't see the administration of Clinton,Bush or Obama taking part in doping like you see happening under Putin. Big difference. If the US government ever put all their resources in state sponsored doping the US would dominate the medal count even more then it does now.
Russia sponsors sports first. The doping is secondary. If US started to fund all sports like Russia does than any doping that went on could be blamed on the state.
 
If alcohol were a banned substance most of the judges and the coaches would not be allowed, and there are several athletes who would never have entered the Olympics to begin with - Bode Miller comes to mind.
Kostomarov second...
 
Were they on doping as well? I mean some marks can only be explained by being under a heavy influence, but...

I think the question is "could there be officials from a 'banned' country at the Olympics"? And I think it's actually a very good question.

If your country isn't "sanctioned" to be at the Olympics why would your sporting judges/officials/referees etc.. be allowed? Aren't they usually drawn from the countries competing?
 
Be careful that different separates don't add up to the tricolor!
And use different Pantone colors.

Pretty damn prescriptive.
 
I am confused by this: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc61-zMnU00/
Says this is going to run in the January issue of the Russian Vogue

It says the new Zasport uniform for team Russia is presented
1. There is no Team Russia
2. The uniform may not display the colors of the Russian flag

What is this?
 

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