Most Broadway type music already has a recognizable beat, e.g. foxtrot. And it's operetta, not opera, right? I don't expect added beats.For opera/Broadway season, I hope they can somehow tweak the rule about having a strong beat. If we get more music like "Pride and Prejudice and Drums," y'all are going to have to talk me off the ledge.
I have never ever seen a rule change that obviously against one coaching team. The first time ever the leading center is hit hard on just about every single thing, from twizzles, to lifts, steps and music requirements.
They really must irk just about everyone.
Because Gadbois played with the rules. Lots of people here (including you) said that the lifts of P/C and H/D were too simple. And the answer given to you were "it fits the criteria".Honestly, I don´t understand how someone can to think the ISU is against Gadbois when P/C just got practically perfect score today and break records each competition.
Because Gadbois played with the rules. Lots of people here (including you) said that the lifts of P/C and H/D were too simple. And the answer given to you were "it fits the criteria".
I guess MarieM is focusing on Gadbois, because for example for the twizzles Gadbois isn't the only center that use more than one steps between twizzles. But I also think you're focusing too much on P/C. Gadbois has something like 15 team. I remember the 2016-2017 season when people said that MFD gave the same style to every team of hers. The theme "entertainment" given in example could be directly pointed as an attack to her genra, for example.
My point is, Judges loved the execution of Gadbois program at those worlds. And all season long. The teams there got their level, but it definitely is a different ice dance in 2018 than it was in 2014. One can interpret the changing of rules as an attack to Gadbois. You can trick the ISU in interpretating freely rules which are a bit lax to actually create what you like. And judges can love that, as long as you get your level (because you followed the rules). Now the ISU want different rules, more specific one, to give Ice Dance a new direction. A direction that would be different that what this cycle was, because of Gadbois. But I'm not really worried for them, and I don't think MarieM is either.
(An other example that comes to me : the new music requirement for the SD, where you want a clear tango "when you close your eyes" : it's on the video from youtube. I can see that as a clear attack on V/M or P/C choice of music for the latin this year. Even though Gadbois wasn't the only center to do that...)
Twizzles were not perfect ? Where ? Also I disagree. Steps between sets of twizzles make them much more pleasing to the eyes.. Anyway if it was up to me I'd probably get rid of the twizzles as it doesn't add anything to a program. IMO of course. And yes no one would criticize the judge if they didn't give perfect mark. It never occured to you that judges want to give perfect mark because that's how they feel ?But if they would want to punish them, they could to do it, today twizzles were not perfect and they got a perfect score, interpretation, composition are subjective and nobody would criticise to judges for not give them 10´s, finally, perfection does not exist. Their straight line lift is not better than other teams getting a lower score.
But about twizzles, it was about time, and they can to do still 3 steps between twizzles, P/C are doing more than 3 steps between twizzles?
I didn't read the whole changes yet, just watch the first hour of the ISU live. So I can't agree with MarieM on the attack on Gadbois specifically, as I didn't see it all. I just felt I could explain it. But my point about lifts were that the criticism of easy lift were useless because it fitted the rules. I wasn't sure I was really clear about how a change of rules can be used to specifically change habits of some center. Apparently it was more confusing than what I aimed to. So..Sorry I guessI thought the twizzle requirements are pretty much the same as they always been except now for the FD synchronized twizzles partners can be in hold within the 3 allowed steps in-between. Also, there was nothing in the link that said anything about new lift requirements for level 4, so I don't know why that is being brought up.
Those were good FDs. But so were plenty of others....the way I look at it is each team has different strengths and style and should be encouraged to put out a program that shows them at their best, not whatever style is being done by the top team b/c that is the only style the judges want to reward. All the slow, lyrical, love-themed FDs this quad got a bit much.I guess I'm the opposite. I thought this collection of FDs this season put the ones from 2014 to shame. I didn't really enjoy the FDs from 2014 except for Weaver/Poje's "Maria de Buenos Aires" and Pechelat/Bourzat's "Little Prince" and maybe the first minute of Ilinykh/Katsalapov's FD. Everything else seemed so generic in comparison and I think there was actually a lot more actual dancing this season than in 2014 when ice dance was so clearly element-by-element focused. It's still about the elements but I think teams these days try to really integrate it into a whole thanks to the push by Gadbois.
The ISU Ice Dance Technical Committee Annual Meeting (2.5 hours on March 23, 2018) can be replayed at the same link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7tYDftWFGgI just saw this now, and it's already over. Did anyone watch?
https://www.isu.org/news-inside-isu...eam-ice-dance-annual-meeting?templateParam=15The main purpose of this meeting is to inform Coaches, Skaters and Officials about the technical requirements for the 2018/19 season also including some of the requirements for the 2019/20 season. In particular, the required Rhythms for the Short (Rhythm) Dance, requirements for the Free Dance and updates to the calling and marking guidelines.
Essential new information regarding the most important aspects of the Ice Dance Technical Committee proposals for the forthcoming 2018 ISU Congress in Seville (ESP) will also be presented.
Wow, that was a lot of sliding on one knee. I totally forgot that dance.