If the medicine does not contain a banned substance why should she submit paperwork?
From Russia With Love [#40]: Summer 2021 & into the Olympic season
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Irina Slutskaya had a heart condition. Anyone can have it.
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It's my understanding that athletes need to list ALL of the medications they are on, whether or not those appear on restricted or banned lists (and therefore would need an exemption for them). At the very least this would be in medical charts submitted to the event medical team since they would need this info in the event of an emergency.
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Athletes have to submit information on a regular basis on all medications, and supplements they are taking.
This medication is not for that type of heart condition.
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I think the point of the statement was just to point out that someone with a heart condition has competed.
I was not saying it was exactly the same condition. The point is just because someone is young, it doesn't mean he/she cannot have certain medical Conditions.
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Well, I don’t feel sorry for you. I learned to accept that some people can’t be helped, and you seem to be one of those.
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I understood what you were trying to say, and I understand why you want to find a reasonable explanation for why the medication would be in her system, but given the restrictions, and regulations around the use of this particular medication, and around the use of medication by elite athletes this is not a reasonable explanation. There may be a reasonable explanation, but at this point we don't have any clues as to what it may be.
So she will not be wrongfully accused when the test gives a false positive. The ROC and their skating federation are expected to know the rules which include (a) that the heart medicine is a banned substance and (b) that the migraine medicine can create a false positive for the banned heart medicine. So, the sensible thing to do when a star athlete is taking the migraine medicine is to be pro-active and disclose the issue, thereby pre-empting the current mess. At the very least, they should have had paperwork ready so it could have been produced immediately after the positive results became known.
I agree that we don't know what it is. That is why people should not be jumping to conclusions.
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yes exactly. Like I figure any athlete at this elite level (tennis, gymnastics, track etc) should disclose absolutely all meds they are on so you can avoid this hot mess. And athletes are always given medical exemptions, it’s an established process that many athletes go through so to say “they didn’t know”’ would be BS in my opinion. I’ll await until we have more concrete details and info but I do feel for Kamila, she absolutely needs to be protected, and if she’s being fed drugs then damn what does that say about her team, about the sport of figure skating??
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I've had migraines since I hit puberty, so a 15 year old could perfectly well need migraine medication.
Though Tiff has had a few migraines she would never take the migraine medication for fear of the doping consequences.
Most athletes are scared to take anything for fear it will get them banned.
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I don't think it's that shocking that people are "jumping to conclusions" when once again an athlete tests positive for a banned substance from a country that has been proven to have so many fricking doping scandals and a systemic doping problem that they are not even allowed to compete under their own flag (and haven't been allowed for the past three Olympics!) 
It's not exactly a leap to assume she was deliberately given a banned substances
It's not exactly a leap to assume she was deliberately given a banned substances
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...especially given that her stamina and consistency (along with all Eteri girls) are extraordinary...
I had my first migraine when I was 13, and I still have migraine symptoms now.
Irina had vasculitis. She had to take steroids to keep her symptoms under control, and was allowed to take them. The type of steroids she took were definitely not performance-enhancing.
But no one questions the stamina and consistency of a skater from another country or another coach.
These are extraordinarily talented athletes; they have been so since a very young age (Kamila at 9 or Gubanova at 10, for example). Russia has a very deep talent pool in figure skating. It is unfair to suggest that they are good because of doping, unless there is Concrete evidence.
All I am seeing here are speculations and accusations, to tarnish the names of Potentially innocent people.
I don't think it's that shocking that people are "jumping to conclusions" when once again an athlete tests positive for a banned substance from a country that has been proven to have so many fricking doping scandals and a systemic doping problem that they are not even allowed to compete under their own flag (and haven't been allowed for the past three Olympics!)
It's not exactly a leap to assume she was deliberately given a banned substances
Yep. The only gaslighting is coming from those who are repeatedly using the words “speculation” and “rumors” around a confirmed positive drug test.
Lots of ice skaters and hockey players have exercised induced asthma. The cold dry air triggers it. At the higher levels, almost all will develop it. One of my daughter's former coaches said she never had a top student that did not eventually get it.
I had my first migraine after going ice skating when I was in 5th grade. I continued to get them on and off for years - was actually medically discharged from the Navy due to them. Both my son and daughter get the migraines as well.
There is no report that she actually took migraine medicine. It's just that the migraine medicine at issue apparently can cause a false report of TMZ (the banned substance). Here is what we don't know so far: whether she took the banned substance (TMZ), if so, who gave it to her and why, whether she took the migraine medicine, and if so, who gave it to her and for what and whether the migraine medicine affected the results. Until these facts are known, it's impossible to say whether a violation of the drug policy has occurred. It is also impossible to say what the sanction, if any, should be or against whom.
It runs in my family, too. My mother had it as well as three sisters.
Kamila didn’t participate in it, but her team had if the drug test is confirmed. It’s unfortunate but she can not be rewarded by being permitted to skate just because she’s a minor and people feel bad for her. If this were Liza, people would not be arguing that she should skate. She is only 15 and will not receive harsh punishment. She can persevere through another Olympic cycle. Yes it’s a medal. A medal that many kids like Alyssa and Mariah and others pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to train and compete for. There is an expectation of clean competition. Since it is just a medal, it is certainly not worth the possible long term side effects of giving a child a substance that is not prescribed for people under 18 years old.
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If it's true that she took a pill for her migraine, it is also true that already many experts have confirmed that this drug it's not a performance enhancement. If all this scandal doesn't affect her, she is going to win fair and square!
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Does anyone in Russia take this medication though? From what I understand it is mostly common in Japan not Russia
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We can't take anything coming from RT seriously.
There's no evidence to suggest that Valieva gets migraines, or that she took a migraine medication.
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