Eric Radford and Vanessa James to compete in pairs together for Canada

[thvu]

But that would mean that liking a tweet is the same as if you said it yourself, which it isn't, re-tweeting is probably a lot closer but still isn't exactly saying it yourself.

I feel like a debate of what a "like" means on social media today would last forever! Given that, I'm curious as to what other people think a "like" means.

I guess in my head, a "like" is an endorsement. Not a hard endorsement in that you agree with every single thing said, but more a soft endorsement, agreeing with the sentiment and the idea that the opinion was expressed.

 

[wickedwitch]

I feel like a debate of what a "like" means on social media today would last forever! Given that, I'm curious as to what other people think a "like" means.

I guess in my head, a "like" is an endorsement. Not a hard endorsement in that you agree with every single thing said, but more a soft endorsement, agreeing with the sentiment and the idea that the opinion was expressed.

For me, it's not even that strong. For example, I may like a tweet expressing joy over something that did not personally bring me joy. But I'm happy it brought them joy. E.g. a tweet that expressed how great it was that T/M won silver of which I have liked several over the past few days. I was not rooting for T/M and would have preferred B/K on the podium, but I can still be happy that their fans are happy.

 

[Lizziebeth]

What does "cancel culture" mean in this context?

what does that phrase mean? I heard it last night on late night TV when the crazy My Pillow Man used the phrase on one of his adverts lol.

 

[skylark]

Instead I think they should ask Charlie White to do a program for them -he consulted with James/Cipres on a couple of their programs as I recall.

Yes, Charlie is a hugely better idea He choreographed my favorite J/C program, Wicked Game.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

what does that phrase mean? I heard it last night on late night TV when the crazy My Pillow Man used the phrase on one of his adverts lol.

It's awhistle

 

[PRlady]

what does that phrase mean? I heard it last night on late night TV when the crazy My Pillow Man used the phrase on one of his adverts lol.

According to right-wingers, it's what woke people do to people or ideas they don't like. Innocent ideas like racism, sexism, transphobia and anything else they would like to get away with pushing.

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

And to those who find the right and left equally despicable in their race to the bottom think some could spend a little more time paying attention to some valid criticism of toxic behavior. But we all know that anyone who isn't right or left has no value to the US political discussions.

 

[overedge]

It was certainly true that with their prior partners they were evenly matched results-, experience-, and ability-wise, and then add in personal sympatico plus deciding to to compete after they worked with each other, but I'm still not sure why the expectations were that high for this season.

Because Skate Canada announced their teaming with a press release and a glossy photo shoot, which made it seem like they had a ton of potential. https://skatecanada.ca/2021/04/vanessa-james-and-eric-radford-to-compete-in-pairs-together/

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Because Skate Canada announced their teaming with a press release and a glossy photo shoot, which made it seem like they had a ton of potential. https://skatecanada.ca/2021/04/vanessa-james-and-eric-radford-to-compete-in-pairs-together/

I suspect they did but for short Battle of the Blades-length programs.

 

[PRlady]

And to those who find the right and left equally despicable in their race to the bottom think some could spend a little more time paying attention to some valid criticism of toxic behavior. But we all know that anyone who isn't right or left has no value to the US political discussions.

Some of us are very tired of the strictures of the woke, but can’t practice both-sidism because the professional anti-woke types use “cancel culture” as an excuse for everything including white supremacy.

But, thread drift.

 

[miffy]

Yes, Charlie is a hugely better idea He choreographed my favorite J/C program, Wicked Game.

Or John Kerr would be a good choice - he did the Sound of Silence programme for them. He’s worked with other pairs too but other than Aliona and Bruno I am completely blanking on who.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Seems to me that Elladj Baldé is the obvious choice for J&R's next top super-choreographer.

 

[screech]

While I don't like J/R overall as a pair, I do think their lines and style are more cohesive than D/R. I can only imagine how they could have been if they'd been together for years.

In watching the O's, I actually found that Boikova kind of reminds me of Duhamel, in that she grins and facially 'emotes' in a way that seemingly has nothing to do with the music and program (though she definitely skates 'with' her partner a lot more than Meagan did, who IMO skated 'alongside' someone else instead).

 

[Xela M]

Not everyone runs to change their status as soon as bad things happen. He still lost a lot of time with Meaghan due to her first pregnancy and Covid. After several years of not really skating together, how much does he really owe her? They've earned all the important medals together and he didn't ditch her during their competitive career.

In fact, looking at her response, he probably avoided talking to her because he didn't want to deal with confrontation. I don't know Meaghan but she is very blunt and in your face. If he already decided to skate with someone else, there's nothing she would have said to change his mind. And he probably didn't want to deal with an explosion either.

She's not really taking a high road complaining on twitter and TSL and liking every negative tweet.

As for him mentoring another team, that doesn't mean he can't get back into the game. Alyona worked with the Knierems and it didnt' work out. No one was attacking Aliona for not liking coaching.

The only reason he didn't dump Meagan during their competitive career was because Aliona didn't agree to skate with him in 2014. Again, he didn't tell Meagan about contacting Aliona.

And you don't think he owed her the common courtesy of letting her know he was ending the partnership?

 

[skategal]

I think anyone except Julie Marcotte would be a good choice of choreographer for J/R.

Heck, I’d even take Danny G at this point.

 

[marbri]

Are we forgetting Guillaume Cizeron did the SP? Which was the worse of the two programs.

 

[my little pony]

People still support their close friends, even if they had done something wrong.

I do not support anyone who is a rapist, child molester., etc. Not even if they once helped me move.

 

[overedge]

I do not support anyone who is a rapist, child molester., etc.

Especially those who say they weren't aware of the allegations against their former partner and then who apologize with "I'm sorry if". https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/...ations-former-partner-morgan-cipres-1.6220285

 

[skategal]

Are we forgetting Guillaume Cizeron did the SP? Which was the worse of the two programs.

Was he the one who choose the funeral dirge they skated to or did they choose that themselves?

 

[wickedwitch]

I do not support anyone who is a rapist, child molester., etc. Not even if they once helped me move.

So this is not specifically about Vanessa, but I believe fundamentally that all humans can change. So if someone who I care for who has done something bad but genuinely seems to realize that and wants to change, I would still support them, because I think people are more likely to change if they get that support.

Now back to Vanessa, she was in a really difficult situation, because she financially depended on her relationship with Morgan. Plus, there are complications because it's also a legal matter. But by the end, I think she knew and didn't care enough to stop skating with him until she had no other choice. And that's disappointing. However, what bothered me more, was her excusing herself a few months ago, because she's "a good person."

 

[Xela M]

There are offences that are beyond redemption and sexual offences against children are that. Not just because they are heinous crimes but because it's impossible to reform someone who is sexually attracted to children, even if they in theory might realise they were wrong.

If anyone watched "Cheer" on Netflix, it seriously made me sick that Monica and Gabbi still supported Jerry "because they loved him". It's sick!

 

[Sammie62]

I was never a big fan of Meagan, only because of her smiling all the time instead of showing emotion that matched the song and story. Vanessa has beautiful lines and is a striking woman but she's just not as good a skater. The pinnacle of her career may be skating to Sound of Silence but I feel the song carried the pair, it's so strong and powerful that it takes the viewer away even though their are mistakes in the skate. I just don't see them doing much more than ending up in the top 10.

 

[skatingguy]

I feel like a debate of what a "like" means on social media today would last forever! Given that, I'm curious as to what other people think a "like" means.

I guess in my head, a "like" is an endorsement. Not a hard endorsement in that you agree with every single thing said, but more a soft endorsement, agreeing with the sentiment and the idea that the opinion was expressed.

It depends on context - a like on twitter can also be a way to archive the link to a tweet - it's much easier to scroll through tweets you've liked then to go through someone else's twitter feed sometimes - that's a strategy a lot of reporters use.

 

[MacMadame]

I was never a big fan of Meagan, only because of her smiling all the time instead of showing emotion that matched the song and story. Vanessa has beautiful lines and is a striking woman but she's just not as good a skater. The pinnacle of her career may be skating to Sound of Silence but I feel the song carried the pair, it's so strong and powerful that it takes the viewer away even though their are mistakes in the skate. I just don't see them doing much more than ending up in the top 10.

Which is nothing to sneeze at really. It is a step down from what they did with their former partners but a lot of teams would kill for such results.

 

[bcash]

Are we forgetting Guillaume Cizeron did the SP? Which was the worse of the two programs.

Both the SP and FS are listed as choreographed by Marcotte & Cizeron.

 

[Japanfan]

S/P were a another team who gelled together quickly.

 

[MarieM]

Now back to Vanessa, she was in a really difficult situation, because she financially depended on her relationship with Morgan. Plus, there are complications because it's also a legal matter. But by the end, I think she knew and didn't care enough to stop skating with him until she had no other choice. And that's disappointing. However, what bothered me more, was her excusing herself a few months ago, because she's "a good person."

I believe her when she says she didn't know. I am kind of sure she was shielded by everyone around them at the time. I am also kind of sure that she was "advised" to stay quiet by legal counsels.
And their partenership was over the minute it went public.
Stop shaming her for something she had 0 control over.
I also know lots of people who thought Morgan had changed and who fell from their chairs when the story broke.

 

[antmanb]

I feel like a debate of what a "like" means on social media today would last forever! Given that, I'm curious as to what other people think a "like" means.

I guess in my head, a "like" is an endorsement. Not a hard endorsement in that you agree with every single thing said, but more a soft endorsement, agreeing with the sentiment and the idea that the opinion was expressed.

I totally agree that liking is like an endorsement but the original statement was whether Meagan had been chiding Eric.

Chiding someone would be actively saying something to someone else. I'm not sure that liking a tweet someone else wrote is chiding the other person.

 

[marbri]

Was he the one who choose the funeral dirge they skated to or did they choose that themselves?

Well maybe the original dirge? Shiney Happy People was just the second dirge they found to go with the original choreography

 

[skategal]

Well maybe the original dirge? Shiney Happy People was just the second dirge they found to go with the original choreography

Sort of alarming that they thought Shiny Happy People was an upgrade.