2026 4CC - Men Free Skate

[Karen-W]

I'm sorry @PRlady for accurately predicting what we could expect with Miura's FS earlier today.

 

[tony]

Cha's going to win this. Both of those quads had questionable rotation. Not that they are calling it and all.

Miura always gonna hit in a big way or struggle through almost everything.

It'll still be close if they don't review anything.

 

[Karen-W]

Cha's going to win this. Both of those quads had questionable rotation. Not that they are calling it and all.

Miura always gonna hit in a big way or struggle through almost everything.

It'll still be close if they don't review anything.

Nahhhhh. I think Miura's going to win despite the messy skate thanks to the SP lead. Chris has made it pretty clear the tech panel isn't reviewing much.

 

[PRlady]

I’m happy for Cha to win and I hope he’s in final group in Milan. But I hope Miura got his wobbles out today.

 

[Bunny Hop]

Kao Miura (Japan)
Les Parapluies de Cherbourg (The Umbrellas of Cherbourg) by Michel Legrand

4 Loop - Hand down, bent backward. Chris said made rotation I'm not so sure.
4 Salchow
4 Toe Loop - Hands down again. This isn't looking good so far
Fly Camel Spin L3
Step Sequence L3
4 Toe Loop + 3 Toe Loop - that was indeed huge, as Chris said, but maybe too little too late
3 Axel + Eulerr + 2 Salchow
3 Axel - swinging landing
Chore Sequence
3 Loop + 2 Axel
Change Sit Spin L3
Change Combo Spin L4

Those errors at the start are going to be costly. He had a gap after the short, and he needs to beat his PB by a lot to stay in the lead.

 

[peibeck]

Miura just giving it up. I'd give it to Cha, despite the big lead he had.

 

[tony]

Watching the protocol update: nothing called.

Needs ~85 PCS to win.

 

[Karen-W]

Hmmmm... Is the tech panel actually reviewing stuff? Scores are taking awhile.

OMG! He did it by .11!!!!! That's some questionable judging there.

 

[tony]

By 0.10 lol

 

[PRlady]

OMG .10

That’s crazy.

 

[Bunny Hop]

Cha wins the free, but Miura wins overall. Ridiculously close. I really though Cha had it, but happy he had a decent skate here and came in second. I'm fine to be wrong about predicting Japan 1-3 in some order.

 

[peibeck]

I doubt he'll get so little scrutiny next month in Milan if he skates like that.

 

[peibeck]

I can't believe I stayed up til 2 a.m. to witness that mess.

 

[Bunny Hop]

Protocols

 

[tony]

Protocols

What is glaring is not one q, <, or << in the entire top 8.

 

[Sylvia]

Protocols

1 Junhwan CHA KOR 184.73 97.46 87.27 8.68 8.89 8.64 0.00 #19
2 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ 175.65 96.57 79.08 7.86 7.89 8.00 0.00 #21
3 Sota YAMAMOTO JPN 175.39 91.90 83.49 8.32 8.32 8.43 0.00 #22
4 Kao MIURA JPN 175.14 90.95 84.19 8.39 8.39 8.50 0.00 #24
5 Kazuki TOMONO JPN 171.41 88.29 83.12 8.25 8.32 8.39 0.00 #23
6 Boyang JIN CHN 169.40 88.88 80.52 8.00 8.07 8.11 0.00 #20
7 Jacob SANCHEZ USA 161.68 84.17 77.51 7.68 7.71 7.89 0.00 #14
8 Tomoki HIWATASHI USA 159.66 84.63 75.03 7.50 7.46 7.57 0.00 #17
9 Roman SADOVSKY CAN 153.55 76.23 79.32 7.96 8.00 7.86 2.00 #16
10 Liam KAPEIKIS USA 150.03 76.03 74.00 7.54 7.32 7.36 0.00 #13
11 Wesley CHIU CAN 146.70 78.01 69.69 7.00 6.89 7.04 1.00 #10
12 Aleksa RAKIC CAN 144.35 76.65 67.70 6.79 6.79 6.75 0.00 #9
13 Yudong CHEN CHN 144.02 75.12 70.90 7.07 6.93 7.29 2.00 #15
14 Zhiming PENG CHN 142.55 77.78 65.77 6.43 6.50 6.82 1.00 #12
15 Hyungyeom KIM KOR 141.42 74.59 66.83 6.75 6.68 6.64 0.00 #8
16 Donovan CARRILLO MEX 139.05 67.02 73.03 7.29 7.43 7.21 1.00 #11
17 Yu-Hsiang LI TPE 134.94 72.50 62.44 6.18 6.25 6.32 0.00 #5
18 Jaekeun LEE KOR 128.97 57.60 71.37 7.18 6.96 7.29 0.00 #18
19 Douglas GERBER AUS 124.51 64.80 59.71 5.89 5.93 6.11 0.00 #7
20 Dias JIRENBAYEV KAZ 121.53 59.09 62.44 6.21 6.18 6.36 0.00 #6
21 Jarvis HO HKG 109.77 56.36 53.41 5.25 5.36 5.43 0.00 #1
22 Oleg MELNIKOV KAZ 105.38 56.37 51.01 5.00 4.89 5.43 2.00 #4
23 Ze Zeng FANG MAS 95.18 47.72 49.46 4.96 4.75 5.14 2.00 #2
24 Paolo BORROMEO PHI 81.55 36.19 47.36 4.79 4.50 4.93 2.00 #3

Men
Result
FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS
1 Kao MIURA JPN 273.73 1 4
2 Junhwan CHA KOR 273.62 6 1
3 Sota YAMAMOTO JPN 270.07 3 3
4 Kazuki TOMONO JPN 268.60 2 5
5 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ 266.20 4 2
6 Boyang JIN CHN 258.86 5 6
7 Tomoki HIWATASHI USA 240.54 8 8
8 Jacob SANCHEZ USA 240.25 11 7
9 Roman SADOVSKY CAN 233.51 9 9
10 Liam KAPEIKIS USA 226.75 12 10
11 Yudong CHEN CHN 223.68 10 13
12 Wesley CHIU CAN 220.31 15 11
13 Zhiming PENG CHN 217.34 13 14
14 Aleksa RAKIC CAN 213.18 16 12
15 Donovan CARRILLO MEX 213.05 14 16
16 Jaekeun LEE KOR 211.22 7 18
17 Hyungyeom KIM KOR 208.92 17 15
18 Yu-Hsiang LI TPE 198.27 20 17
19 Douglas GERBER AUS 189.06 18 19
20 Dias JIRENBAYEV KAZ 185.43 19 20
21 Oleg MELNIKOV KAZ 164.34 21 22
22 Jarvis HO HKG 162.23 24 21
23 Ze Zeng FANG MAS 149.55 23 23
24 Paolo BORROMEO PHI 136.15 22 24
Final Not Reached
25 Kwang Bom HAN PRK 52.44 25
26 Chiu Hei CHEUNG HKG 46.22 26

 

[Bunny Hop]

What is glaring is not one q, <, or << in the entire top 8.

I know!

Honestly, if I'm doing PBP and see something is under-rotated, or potentially under-rotated, then it must be REALLY obvious. I'm just not that practiced at calling something in real time!

 

[PRlady]

I know!

Honestly, if I'm doing PBP and see something is under-rotated, or potentially under-rotated, then it must be REALLY obvious. I'm just not that practiced at calling something in real time!

I’m with you, it has to be obvious for me to see it.

Congrats to the US guys, that was decent. Note that Tomoki and Jacob were almost tied even without a quad for Jacob.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Happy for Jacob. So much positive GOE. Right to get the quality up of all he does first. He`ll be in better stead for those quads he needs. Congratulations.

 

[victorskid]

I don't feel badly at all for getting a full night's sleep in lieu of watching this event

I will watch some of the skates later, perhaps.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Also, Yamamoto. He`s the loveliest skater. A "Cha" looking one. Extension, power, positions (bad posture? Nein). He`s been unpredictable. Maybe that can change.

 

[Wyliefan]

Jacob
Kazuki

 

[kwanette]

Jacob
Kazuki

same

 

[her grace]

Watched unspoiled because I needed the sleep

Miura: deeply unsatisfying gold medalist, I know he had quite the lead from the SP, which was great, but there were errors or tight landings on so much of this program. Don't think he would've won if the Tech Panel had done its job

Cha: Fantastic free skate, big step up in quality from the skaters who came before, skating with command and confidence

Yamamoto: beautiful carriage, glorious sit spin near end of program, glad he medaled

Tomono: sad that he had an uneven jump performance, artistic and interesting interpretation

Shaidorov: His hair looks like a young Ambassador Londo Mollari from Babylon 5, not much of a program here

Jin: I agree with Tony.

Americans: SOS on quads. Practically everyone is attempting at least one quad, and the US sent two quad-less men? USFS may want to consider how they can incentivize quads more in young skaters' development.

 

[bladesofgorey]

I just cannot believe that Yamamoto makes Michael Bolton sexy. It's the end times.

 

[clairecloutier]

Watched unspoiled because I needed the sleep

Miura: deeply unsatisfying gold medalist, I know he had quite the lead from the SP, which was great, but there were errors or tight landings on so much of this program. Don't think he would've won if the Tech Panel had done its job

"Deeply unsatisfying" is right. So annoyed Miura pulled out the win here, because that program was a mess. This is my issue with him generally--as @tony rightly said, when he's not on, the jumps are just one mistake after another. Not only should they be called correctly in terms of negative GOE, all those little fallouts and stepouts and stumbles negatively affect the whole look of the program as well, which should be reflected in his PCS. Unlike Yamamoto and Tomono, Miura has very little to back up the jumps when they go wrong IMO. Skating skills are good, but there is little expression or musicality. And line and extension are pretty much nonexistent.

 

[skateboy]

Staring down at the ice the whole time, not one ounce of choreography. Throw all the stuffed animals bla bla. There is simply no program here and he's not as strong a skater as he was even in 2016. Spins are average, footwork is really atrocious considering how long he's been around. It's just all been all jumps and some weird ass programs given to him that he doesn't relate to at all.

SK- 6.25 PR - 5.00 CO - 5.25 and no more.

I don't know what to tell you about Jin, you certainly complain about him every chance you get. All I can figure is:

1) The judges are collectively seeing something in him you're not seeing, or...
2) They're all in on a conspiracy just to piss you off.

 

[terisa]

....

Americans: SOS on quads. Practically everyone is attempting at least one quad, and the US sent two quad-less men? USFS may want to consider how they can incentivize quads more in young skaters' development.

We have ALL the quads!!! (We just stuck them all in one basket.)

 

[beckab81]

Watched unspoiled because I needed the sleep

Miura: deeply unsatisfying gold medalist, I know he had quite the lead from the SP, which was great, but there were errors or tight landings on so much of this program. Don't think he would've won if the Tech Panel had done its job

Cha: Fantastic free skate, big step up in quality from the skaters who came before, skating with command and confidence

Yamamoto: beautiful carriage, glorious sit spin near end of program, glad he medaled

Tomono: sad that he had an uneven jump performance, artistic and interesting interpretation

Shaidorov: His hair looks like a young Ambassador Londo Mollari from Babylon 5, not much of a program here

Jin: I agree with Tony.

Americans: SOS on quads. Practically everyone is attempting at least one quad, and the US sent two quad-less men? USFS may want to consider how they can incentivize quads more in young skaters' development.

The juniors coming up have quads, so I’m optimistic for the future. I am also holding out hope that Jacob will get a stable quad over the summer and it will make him a contender on the international stage.

 

[tony]

I don't know what to tell you about Jin, you certainly complain about him every chance you get. All I can figure is:

1) The judges are collectively seeing something in him you're not seeing, or...
2) They're all on a conspiracy just to piss you off.

I think most people on this thread and in each competition seem to agree? Do you not?