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I’m going to go out on a limb… a long one… and say that “Fix You” is not actually their program. They were doing steps in-between twizzles that looked closer to what teams are doing now during their last exhibition in like 2019, so I don’t understand why they’d be doing the same exact twizzle sequence. Of course, a lot of their choices have been perplexing for many, so this may be par for the course.
twizzle sequence requirements change and are different for the rd and fd so if their previous sequence meets the requirements there's no reason not to do it (not saying this is 100% their program but I don't think that's indicative of it not being their program either)
 
twizzle sequence requirements change and are different for the rd and fd so if their previous sequence meets the requirements there's no reason not to do it (not saying this is 100% their program but I don't think that's indicative of it not being their program either)
Right but I think their old twizzle sequence is a sequential twizzle which is a RD requirement while the FD calls for synchronized twizzles, allowing up to 4 steps in between. I mean I guess they can do the same ones but it seems the ISU dance committee wanted teams to do steps and “dance” in-between the twizzles in the FD.
 
I’m going to go out on a limb… a long one… and say that “Fix You” is not actually their program. They were doing steps in-between twizzles that looked closer to what teams are doing now during their last exhibition in like 2019, so I don’t understand why they’d be doing the same exact twizzle sequence. Of course, a lot of their choices have been perplexing for many, so this may be par for the course.
I haven't seen the footage and I don't know what the sound quality is. But I do know a lot of CCTV doesn't have audio or at least good quality audio (yes, even LiveBarn), so it's entirely possible Dave edited it in. It's also possible they're practicing the timing with old music.

Repeating lifts and twizzles isn't a bad idea if it gets the element called. Now, it may be a bad idea in this case since calling standards have changed, but it's not wrong to keep what works if its still within the margins of current calling standards. AFAIK these twizzles would work for at least one program, but may not be stylistically up to date for GOE purposes.
 
I haven't seen the footage and I don't know what the sound quality is. But I do know a lot of CCTV doesn't have audio or at least good quality audio (yes, even LiveBarn), so it's entirely possible Dave edited it in. It's also possible they're practicing the timing with old music.

Repeating lifts and twizzles isn't a bad idea if it gets the element called. Now, it may be a bad idea in this case since calling standards have changed, but it's not wrong to keep what works if it’s still within the margins of current calling standards. AFAIK these twizzles would work for at least one program, but may not be stylistically up to date for GOE purposes.
I’m going to take what you say and manifest it into reality :lol:.
 
I haven't seen the footage and I don't know what the sound quality is. But I do know a lot of CCTV doesn't have audio or at least good quality audio (yes, even LiveBarn), so it's entirely possible Dave edited it in. It's also possible they're practicing the timing with old music.
he filmed it from his phone lol the sound is legitly terrible but also it would be more time than it's worth to put process music to make it sound that bad and timed perfectly with their fix you twizzle sequence they are doing
 
I can't imagine them coming back after all this time just to skate to Coldplay again. It has to be an exhibition they were whipping together because the alternative is just so dull.
 
I can't imagine them coming back after all this time just to skate to Coldplay again. It has to be an exhibition they were whipping together because the alternative is just so dull.
I'd rather shave the skin off my face than listen to Coldplay, but they apparently have actual fans. 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
Having seen the footage, it seems incredibly unlikely that Dave edited it because it is so authentically terrible(if he did I'd be sort of impressed). However, there are some options:
1. They have a legit totally new FD and they're using Fix You as a gala program only and Dave was either mistaken or just trying to cause outrage by implying they're redoing Fix You. I don't know how likely this is, I probably wouldn't be wasting time on drilling a gala at this point in the season, but maybe it was a brief practice run of something old and comfortable and familiar at the end of a long day or something.
2. They have a partially new FD where most of it is genuinely new other than the bare minimum for the current technical requirements and to new music and ends with a somewhat reworked Fix You section including the same twizzles. Not my personal favorite choice artistically, but could be effective to get some nostalgia going potentially?
3. It's more or less the same FD from ten years ago just changed to fit current requirements. The most baffling option and one I sort of refuse to accept unless I literally see it happen in front of me.

Maybe the Shibs just want to be on competition ice one last time and so don't feel the need to push themselves artistically. Maybe they think a revamp of Coldplay WILL show their artistic growth over the past decade. Maybe they think seeing actual dance holds will drive current ice dance fans to tears and we'll be transported back a decade when hope was high and life worth living and we had multiple step sequences and levels mattered. Maybe they just think that Coldplay is the pinnacle of music. Maybe Dave is just stirring shit. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
 

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