2024-25 Pairs General Discussion - Who Wants to Skate Forever (in Junior Pairs)?

[Sylvia]

Cross-posting this link from the OAS News thread in GSD ... Isabella Gamez & Aleksandr Korovin will be the first Southeast Asian pair to compete in the ISU Grand Prix series! They weren't able to go to NHK Trophy but can make it to Cup of China:

Isabella Gamez & Alexander Korovin on Instagram: "IT’S HAPPENING! We are going to the Grand Prix of Figure Skating, the final event of #GPFigure Cup of China. We are so honored and proud to be the first Southeast Asian (and Philippines) pair to earn

556 likes, 37 comments - isabellaandalexander on November 11, 2024: "IT’S HAPPENING! We are going to the Grand Prix of Figure Skating, the final event of #GPFigure Cup of China. We are so honored and proud to be the first Southeast Asian (and Philippines) pair to earn a spot at the...

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[Karen-W]

Debut this weekend of two new pairs teams on the international scene - Gunnarsdottir/Piazza ISL and Vouillamoz/Giniaux SUI - at NRW Trophy. Also competing were the Crafoords. Junior Pairs saw the debut of Pflaum/Mager SUI, as well as 4 other teams who had at least one JGP this season (Ehrhard/Pellegris FRA, Pazienza/Knorr SUI, Wood/Lapsky GBR, Ackermann/Harms GER). Just commenting on the teams that debuted here:

GunPia - she fell on the 3T and fell out of her camel position on the SBS spins which resulted in an invalid element, but she landed a nice throw 3S and they already have a nice pairs quality about them. Some more time (only have a 2tw right now) and I think they could be a team to watch.

VouGin - well, now, France kinda missed the boat in releasing this team to Switzerland. They're better already than Faula/Belle - solid SBS 3t, decent throw 3lo and 3tw; a bit wild and unrefined in their pairs quality, but the raw talent is there.

PflaMag - 2tw, throw 2s; she fell on the SBS 2a - they're cute and have nice energy; not too bad at all for a junior pairs team.

Live stream is here (jr pairs starts at about the 2:30:00 mark and sr pairs starts at about the 6:00:00 mark) - https://sportdeutschland.tv/deutsche-eislauf-union/nrw-trophy-2024-in-dortmund-tag-3

Next week at Warsaw Cup is going to be really exciting with some of these new teams!

 

[farahfan]

Anybody hear anything this season about Wang/Zhu, who are competing at Cup of China this weekend?

 

[Karen-W]

Just that they've been injured and this will be their first competition of the season, IIRC.

 

[Karen-W]

So, 18 medals on the Grand Prix and 12 different medalists. Worlds is gonna be unpredictable!

 

[Karen-W]

Ranking the teams by GP high score, here's what we're looking at for a potential result at Worlds...

1 - 214.23 - Miura/Kihara JPN (SkAm)
2 - 213.05 - Metelkina/Berulava GEO (NHK)
3 - 211.69 - Hase/Volodin GER (GPdF)
4 - 211.05 - Conti/Macii ITA (CoC)
5 - 207.44 - Stellato-Dudek/Deschamps CAN (Fin)
6 - 201.73 - Kam/O'Shea USA (SkAm)
7 - 191.51 - Efimova/Mitrofanov USA (SkAm)
8 - 189.65 - Geynish/Chigirev UZB (SCI)
9 - 188.74 - Pereira/Michaud CAN (CoC)
10 - 188.54 - Hocke/Kunkel GER (NHK)
11 - 186.14 - Golubeva/Giotopoulos Moore AUS (SCI)
12 - 184.21 - Pavlova/Sviatchenko HUN (Fin)
13 - 181.59 - Ghilardi/Ambrosini ITA (Fin)
14 - 180.13 - Vaipan-Law/Digby GBR (SkAm)
15 - 178.57 - Laurin/Ethier CAN (Fin)
16 - 178.37 - Danilova/Tsiba NED (NHK)
17 - 177.04 - Chtchetinina/Wozniak POL (CoC)
18 - 172.47 - Nagaoka/Moriguchi JPN (NHK)
19 - 160.73 - Vaananen/Clerici FIN (Fin)
20 - 157.11 - Kovalev/Kovalev FRA (CoC)

Not much of a gap there between the Top 4 and it is really going to boil down to whichever team skates the best in Boston. SDDes seem to be a bit behind the others - they also haven't had a completely clean competition yet, so we'll see. KamOShea may push their way higher, especially seeing as it's a home Worlds and they also have not skated to their full potential yet. After the Top 6, there's a huge gap and it feels like any of the teams bunched from 7th through 12th could place anywhere on any given day. Below them, if these results hold, the real fight will be between VLDigs, DanTsi and ChtWoz for the 15th & 16th Oly spots available to be awarded at Worlds. Someone's going to leave Boston heartbroken, I think.

 

[farahfan]

I think there are at least eight citizenship situations here, too, though I think most aren't projected to have major problems obtaining it. Still, processes are processes. I'm not entirely about the various Russians (current political situation) and Clerici (Finnish laws) given that it may be required they renounce their current citizenship. Does anyone know if Danilova had to renounce her Russian citizenship to become Dutch earlier this year?
Efimova definitely won't have US citizenship, and she may not even have it for 2030 given her timeline, but as Karen has mentioned can still gain an Olympic spot for USA.

Ranking the teams by GP high score, here's what we're looking at for a potential result at Worlds...

1 - 214.23 - Miura/Kihara JPN (SkAm)
2 - 213.05 - Metelkina/Berulava GEO (NHK)
3 - 211.69 - Hase/Volodin GER (GPdF)
4 - 211.05 - Conti/Macii ITA (CoC)
5 - 207.44 - Stellato-Dudek/Deschamps CAN (Fin)
6 - 201.73 - Kam/O'Shea USA (SkAm)
7 - 191.51 - Efimova/Mitrofanov USA (SkAm)
8 - 189.65 - Geynish/Chigirev UZB (SCI)
9 - 188.74 - Pereira/Michaud CAN (CoC)
10 - 188.54 - Hocke/Kunkel GER (NHK)
11 - 186.14 - Golubeva/Giotopoulos Moore AUS (SCI)
12 - 184.21 - Pavlova/Sviatchenko HUN (Fin)
13 - 181.59 - Ghilardi/Ambrosini ITA (Fin)
14 - 180.13 - Vaipan-Law/Digby GBR (SkAm)
15 - 178.57 - Laurin/Ethier CAN (Fin)
16 - 178.37 - Danilova/Tsiba NED (NHK)
17 - 177.04 - Chtchetinina/Wozniak POL (CoC)
18 - 172.47 - Nagaoka/Moriguchi JPN (NHK)
19 - 160.73 - Vaananen/Clerici FIN (Fin)
20 - 157.11 - Kovalev/Kovalev FRA (CoC)

Not much of a gap there between the Top 4 and it is really going to boil down to whichever team skates the best in Boston. SDDes seem to be a bit behind the others - they also haven't had a completely clean competition yet, so we'll see. KamOShea may push their way higher, especially seeing as it's a home Worlds and they also have not skated to their full potential yet. After the Top 6, there's a huge gap and it feels like any of the teams bunched from 7th through 12th could place anywhere on any given day. Below them, if these results hold, the real fight will be between VLDigs, DanTsi and ChtWoz for the 15th & 16th Oly spots available to be awarded at Worlds. Someone's going to leave Boston heartbroken, I think.

 

[Karen-W]

I think there are at least eight citizenship situations here, too, though I think most aren't projected to have major problems obtaining it. Still, processes are processes. I'm not entirely about the various Russians (current political situation) and Clerici (Finnish laws) given that it may be required they renounce their current citizenship. Does anyone know if Danilova had to renounce her Russian citizenship to become Dutch earlier this year?
Efimova definitely won't have US citizenship, and she may not even have it for 2030 given her timeline, but as Karen has mentioned can still gain an Olympic spot for USA.

Yeah, no, there aren't at least 8 citizenship issues for the countries above - at most, there may be two that cause teams to be unable to utilize earned Olympic spots.

I highly doubt any Russians will be required to renounce their Russian citizenship in order to represent another country if they have already or will have obtained dual citizenship in another country before the Olympics. Danilova is not going to have an issue representing Netherlands if they earn a spot.

Volodin and Stellato-Dudek should have German & Canadian citizenship well in time for the Olympics, but even if they do not, there are other German and Canadian teams that have the Olympic CTES mins and could represent those countries. The USFS would send whichever teams are most likely to earn the right for the US to try for a 3rd spot, regardless of whether those teams have citizenship for the Olympics because, as you noted and many of us have said, we have plenty of teams that do have the citizenship already to go to the Olympics.

Metelkina/Berulava and Golubeva/Giotopoulos Moore should both be fine with their citizenship - Metelkina was an alternate with Parkman for the 2022 Georgian Olympic team and Berulava was an actual Olympian for Georgia in 2022. Golubeva moved to Australia right after the war started and finished up her HS education there while training. Given that the Australian government gave Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya citizenship right after she and Harley Windsor won Jr Worlds, I'd guess that Golubeva got hers sometime after she and Hektor won their 2nd Jr Worlds silver.

I don't know what the Uzbek citizenship status of Geynish/Chigirev is, but the Russian fed hasn't been releasing teams that don't have some nominal ties to the country requesting the release.

Same for Chtchetinina - no idea what the status of her Polish citizenship application is but I doubt it will be that difficult for her to obtain it - Kurakova certainly didn't seem to have an issue with getting it in order to represent Poland at the Olympics.

 

[Belsornia]

I think there are at least eight citizenship situations here, too, though I think most aren't projected to have major problems obtaining it. Still, processes are processes. I'm not entirely about the various Russians (current political situation) and Clerici (Finnish laws) given that it may be required they renounce their current citizenship. Does anyone know if Danilova had to renounce her Russian citizenship to become Dutch earlier this year?
Efimova definitely won't have US citizenship, and she may not even have it for 2030 given her timeline, but as Karen has mentioned can still gain an Olympic spot for USA.

Vaananen/Clerici have said that he won't have citizenship for 2026, so Finland can be taken out of Olympic calculations.

Other citizenship situations (I like the term!) -

• Nikita Volodin - Nikita vs the German test is probably their biggest barrier to an Olympic medal (it's Bruno Massot redux). If the German test wins, Roscher/Schuster could fill the spot.
• Deanna Stellato - Fingers crossed for Deanna, they sound optimistic.
• Geynish/Chigirev - Presumably at least one has citizenship for them to be able to switch countries.
• Anastasia Golubeva - Australia does sometimes expedite the process for athletes (as with Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya) but it's unclear if they would this time. And G/GM are now training in Canada, if that makes a difference.
• Alexei Sviatchenko - Pavlova got Hungarian citizenship in 2022, so it shouldn't be a problem for him.
• Ioulia Chtchetinina - Poland seems to be generous with passports for country-swap athletes.

ETA: Simultaneous posting

 

[farahfan]

Vaananen/Clerici have said that he won't have citizenship for 2026, so Finland can be taken out of Olympic calculations.

Other citizenship situations (I like the term!) -

• Nikita Volodin - Nikita vs the German test is probably their biggest barrier to an Olympic medal (it's Bruno Massot redux). If the German test wins, Roscher/Schuster could fill the spot.
• Deanna Stellato - Fingers crossed for Deanna, they sound optimistic.
• Geynish/Chigirev - Presumably at least one has citizenship for them to be able to switch countries.
• Anastasia Golubeva - Australia does sometimes expedite the process for athletes (as with Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya) but it's unclear if they would this time. And G/GM are now training in Canada, if that makes a difference.
• Alexei Sviatchenko - Pavlova got Hungarian citizenship in 2022, so it shouldn't be a problem for him.
• Ioulia Chtchetinina - Poland seems to be generous with passports for country-swap athletes.

ETA: Simultaneous posting

ok, that confirms it for Clerici.
I mentioned the Russians because even if Russians haven't had problems in the past, the ongoing war and increasing political tensions has already affected Russian visa applications (like in Poland) and that could extend to citizenship applications. It's reciprocal, too, if one country places new restrictions on another then that country reacts...I'm not the expert here by any means, I just have seen by experience that it's a factor.
As for Geynish/Chigirev, Uzbekistan has easily given out athlete passports in the past. And I'm sure G/C wouldn't have switched without hope for Milan 2026. However, tensions between Russia and Uzbekistan have risen since the Ukraine war. I guess the worse thing that could happen is that applicants are denied dual citizenship turning it into a tough decision for the Russians. Volodin said in an interview he is going for the German citizenship because Germany doesn't require him to renounce his Russian one. Otherwise he wouldn't do it.

 

[Belsornia]

I mentioned the Russians because even if Russians haven't had problems in the past, the ongoing war and increasing political tensions has already affected Russian visa applications (like in Poland) and that could extend to citizenship applications. It's reciprocal, too, if one country places new restrictions on another then that country reacts...I'm not the expert here by any means, I just have seen by experience that it's a factor.

Ioulia Chtchetinina and her family left Russia when she was a tiny child. She is a Swiss (and Hungarian) citizen so that shouldn't be an issue for her.

 

[Sylvia]

The new partnership of Alteryd/Pierre for France was announced on social media in late September - here’s Tilda’s post today before she and Noel-Antoine make their debut at Golden Spin of Zagreb later this week:

𝐓𝐈𝐋𝐃𝐀 𝐀𝐋𝐓𝐄𝐑𝐘𝐃 on Instagram: "Hello everyone! 🥖🍁 Me and @noel_antoine_pierre are very happy to tell you about our new partnership. We will be representing France and train at @francais_volants_patinage in Paris with Claude Peri and Lola Esbrat and par

468 likes, 30 comments - tildaalteryd on December 1, 2024: "Hello everyone! 🥖🍁 Me and @noel_antoine_pierre are very happy to tell you about our new partnership. We will be representing France and train at @francais_volants_patinage in Paris with Claude Peri and Lola Esbrat and partly in...

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Their new ISU bio (she was born in Vietnam, grew up & competed in Sweden before representing Canada in 2022-23 with Farand): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00121899.htm

 

[Sylvia]

ICYMI, Ghilardi/Ambrosini have replaced Deanna/Max (neither has given a reason on social media nor has Skate Canada yet today) at this week’s GP Final:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863654543281549399

 

[kwanfan1818]

The only spots that are specific to the skaters who earned the spots are GP's. Qualifications for the Olympics (and ISU championships) can be earned by anyone who fulfills the ISU criteria, which includes not having made the FS in prior Worlds for the Olympic qualifier, but are allocated by each Federation to those who meet the Olympic criteria. Those include not having competed in regional or world championships under another flag for the three years prior to the Olympics, unless the IOC grants an exception.

 

[farahfan]

On the topic of citizenship, Korovin just got his Philippine citizenship. The pair is still pretty far from qualifying for the Olympics, but at least that's one hurdle down. They are expected to represent the Philippines at the Asian Winter Games this February.

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[Dobre]

Could someone possibly link the U.S. pairs thread for me? I must be skimming past it as I went through a slew of pages + the search engine without finding it.

In any case, I wanted to tip my hat to Ellie Kam. Coming right along. She has a lot of natural gifts--the flexibility, posture, and positions in the lifts. Whether she could get the throws, of course, was the big question. Not for the faint of heart, this discipline. But they're coming. And in the free this week she showed a lot of grit. It was great to see.

Also, the Stand By Me program really works, in my opinion. Well enough to make me ask how the entire dance field missed the ability to channel this particular vibe?

 

[Amy L]

US pairs thread:

2024-25 US Pairs Discussion - Triple-Twisting Through Tornado Alley

Thread title inspired by Skate America being held in Texas and Nationals being held in Kansas! International Selection Pool - https://www.usfigureskating.org/skate/qualify-for-team-usa 2023-24 Junior Grand Prix Final/U.S. Pairs Final/Nationals/ISU Championships placements included below: Saya...

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[farahfan]

So I was listening to Megan Duhamel on This and That and she was saying that the Christmas break is a reset for the teams and the judges, that they can come back in January and it's almost like a new season. So who do you think could really benefit from a reset and come back possibly stronger in the second half?

 

[Karen-W]

So I was listening to Megan Duhamel on This and That and she was saying that the Christmas break is a reset for the teams and the judges, that they can come back in January and it's almost like a new season. So who do you think could really benefit from a reset and come back possibly stronger in the second half?

MiuKih need a major reset. ChanHowe could use a really nice, long stretch of uninterrupted, uninjured training time. Italy should be praying that Beccari can get healthy ahead of Euros, because there's no way they can trust that GhiAmbr will have two clean skates at Worlds & help Italy earn a 3rd spot for next season.

 

[Amy L]

Italy should be praying that Beccari can get healthy ahead of Euros, because there's no way they can trust that GhiAmbr will have two clean skates at Worlds & help Italy earn a 3rd spot for next season.

They pretty much have to skate at Nationals to get a chance at Euroes, which would give them a chance to be selected for Worlds, right? The Italy thread has the criteria for qualifications that I didn't want to drag over here. But GhiAmb has a whole season of scores where BecGua doesn't. They're last score would be from Worlds, right? Or did they do any early summer comps before her injury?

 

[RoseRed]

They pretty much have to skate at Nationals to get a chance at Euroes, which would give them a chance to be selected for Worlds, right? The Italy thread has the criteria for qualifications that I didn't want to drag over here. But GhiAmb has a whole season of scores where BecGua doesn't. They're last score would be from Worlds, right? Or did they do any early summer comps before her injury?

They did Shanghai Trophy. I don't remember if that would count for Italy. Italy does have three spots for Euros, so in terms of qualifying for that they aren't competing with G/A, but with Caldara/Maglio.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Beccardi/Guarise were 2nd to Pavlova/Sviachenko/in the Shanghai Trophy in October. Their combined score was 178.35.

https://results.isu.org/results/season2425/sht2024/index.htm

Here's the link to Andrea82's post in the Italian news thread:

https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/italian-figure-skating-news-updates.104247/post-6701470

If I understood the requirements correctly:

1. Shanghai Trophy would be from the 2nd list -- includes "Other International competitions in ISU calendar," but since it's the only, and therefore Top Score, it is counted fully.

2. Their last international competition from 2024 was Worlds, in which they earned 185.40. This is from the first list, so would be factored by .95, or 176.13.

Compared to Ghilardi/Ambrosini:

1. Diamond Spin 193.33 -- the top score from the second list, but the highest score, so not factored
2. Lombardia 192.47
3. Finlandia GP 181.59
4. GPF 181.52
5. GPdF: 176.62
6. John Nicks 172.61

Top 2 scores determine Euros spots, Top 3 scores determine Worlds spots, but one has to be earned after Nationals.

I think G/A have it wrapped up, unless Beccardi/Ambrosini really hit it out of the park at an Italian event before they stopped so far this season.

 

[RoseRed]

Beccardi/Guarise were 2nd to Pavlova/Sviachenko/in the Shanghai Trophy in October. Their combined score was 178.35.

https://results.isu.org/results/season2425/sht2024/index.htm

Here's the link to Andrea82's post in the Italian news thread:

https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/italian-figure-skating-news-updates.104247/post-6701470

If I understood the requirements correctly:

1. Shanghai Trophy would be from the 2nd list -- includes "Other International competitions in ISU calendar," but since it's the only, and therefore Top Score, it is counted fully.

2. Their last international competition from 2024 was Worlds, in which they earned 185.40. This is from the first list, so would be factored by .95, or 176.13.

Compared to Ghilardi/Ambrosini:

1. Diamond Spin 193.33 -- the top score from the second list, but the highest score, so not factored
2. Lombardia 192.47
3. Finlandia GP 181.59
4. GPF 181.52
5. GPdF: 176.62
6. John Nicks 172.61

Top 2 scores determine Euros spots, Top 3 scores determine Worlds spots, but one has to be earned after Nationals.

I think G/A have it wrapped up, unless Beccardi/Ambrosini really hit it out of the park at an Italian event before they stopped so far this season.

Yeah, I agree. If B/G were ready for Nationals, it would be unlikely but not impossible for them to make up the ~30 point gap by outscoring G/A at both Nats and Euros. But since they aren't on the entry list, it seems like it's basically already decided.

 

[Karen-W]

Beccardi/Guarise were 2nd to Pavlova/Sviachenko/in the Shanghai Trophy in October. Their combined score was 178.35.

https://results.isu.org/results/season2425/sht2024/index.htm

Here's the link to Andrea82's post in the Italian news thread:

https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/italian-figure-skating-news-updates.104247/post-6701470

If I understood the requirements correctly:

1. Shanghai Trophy would be from the 2nd list -- includes "Other International competitions in ISU calendar," but since it's the only, and therefore Top Score, it is counted fully.

2. Their last international competition from 2024 was Worlds, in which they earned 185.40. This is from the first list, so would be factored by .95, or 176.13.

Compared to Ghilardi/Ambrosini:

1. Diamond Spin 193.33 -- the top score from the second list, but the highest score, so not factored
2. Lombardia 192.47
3. Finlandia GP 181.59
4. GPF 181.52
5. GPdF: 176.62
6. John Nicks 172.61

Top 2 scores determine Euros spots, Top 3 scores determine Worlds spots, but one has to be earned after Nationals.

I think G/A have it wrapped up, unless Beccardi/AmbrosiniGuarise really hit it out of the park at an Italian event before they stopped so far this season.

What about Bavarian Open or Challenge Cup? Theoretically, they could compete at both of those and score much higher (which would offset the Shanghai Trophy score), plus use their Euros score. GhiAmbro have been on a pretty severe downward trend the last 6 weeks, plus they're dealing with injury themselves per the reporting from the GPF.

I don't know that the math is in BecGuar's favor, but like I said, if I was the FISG, I'd be really concerned about GhiAmbro being able to put together two clean programs in one competition. It almost never happens.

 

[farahfan]

What about Bavarian Open or Challenge Cup? Theoretically, they could compete at both of those and score much higher (which would offset the Shanghai Trophy score), plus use their Euros score. GhiAmbro have been on a pretty severe downward trend the last 6 weeks, plus they're dealing with injury themselves per the reporting from the GPF.

I don't know that the math is in BecGuar's favor, but like I said, if I was the FISG, I'd be really concerned about GhiAmbro being able to put together two clean programs in one competition. It almost never happens.

Maybe six competitions was a bit much for G/A? They originally had seven planned. So looking to see if B/G come out strong after the break. I believe the Bavarian Cup entries are due Dec 20.
I was also thinking about ChanHowe and if they'll reset over the break. Lucky for them nationals are in January. Was thinking about Kovalev too but they have been stuck in the 150s this first half of the season.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Maybe, but based on B/G’s Worlds score, with Worlds inflation, G/A were close to that score in their first two GP’s, and that was injured.

G/A took a chance on GPF instead of passing to heal/rest. I’m not sure it would be worth it for B/G to push, especially since there are three spots for Euros.

 

[Karen-W]

Maybe, but based on B/G’s Worlds score, with Worlds inflation, G/A were close to that score in their first two GP’s, and that was injured.

G/A took a chance on GPF instead of passing to heal/rest. I’m not sure it would be worth it for B/G to push, especially since there are three spots for Euros.

I can see that approach. They're certainly getting the 3rd Euros spot over Caldara/Maglio. Possibly just enter themselves in Challenge Cup to have a better score that can possibly be used should GhiAmbro wind up injured again later in the season & at least put themselves in the 1st Alt spot for the Worlds team selection by wiping out that really bad Shanghai Trophy score.

 

[Karen-W]

Was thinking about Kovalev too but they have been stuck in the 150s this first half of the season.

Les Kovs have been in really rough shape this fall. I can't imagine they won't be sent to Euros & Worlds, despite their really poor showings. Faula/Belle have had one good competition - Golden Spin - but the rest of the season, they were scoring in the 125-135 range, which is where they'd been scoring last season (they did manage to get the Euros TES min, so there's that, lol).

 

[Sylvia]

ISU Season Best total scores as of December 10, 2024: https://results.isu.org/isujsstat/sb2024-25/sbtspto.htm

Top 24 teams currently have scores of 170+:

1	Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nikita VOLODIN	GER	ISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 2024	20/09/2024	218.44	S
2	Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA	JPN	ISU GP Skate America 2024	19/10/2024	214.23	S
3	Anastasiia METELKINA / Luka BERULAVA	GEO	ISU GP NHK Trophy 2024	09/11/2024	213.05	S
4	Sara CONTI / Niccolo MACII	ITA	ISU GP Cup of China 2024	23/11/2024	211.05	S
5	Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK / Maxime DESCHAMPS	CAN	ISU GP Finlandia Trophy 2024	17/11/2024	207.44	S
6	Ellie KAM / Danny O'SHEA	USA	ISU GP Skate America 2024	19/10/2024	201.73	S
7	Maria PAVLOVA / Alexei SVIATCHENKO	HUN	ISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2024	15/09/2024	196.67	S
8	Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI	ITA	ISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2024	15/09/2024	192.47	S
9	Alisa EFIMOVA / Misha MITROFANOV	USA	ISU GP Skate America 2024 (int'l debut season)	19/10/2024	191.51	S
10	Ekaterina GEYNISH / Dmitrii CHIGIREV	UZB	ISU GP Skate Canada Int'l 2024 (debut season for UZB)	26/10/2024	189.65	S
11	Lia PEREIRA / Trennt MICHAUD	CAN	ISU GP Cup of China 2024	23/11/2024	188.74	S
12	Annika HOCKE / Robert KUNKEL	GER	ISU GP NHK Trophy 2024	09/11/2024	188.54	S
13	Anastasia GOLUBEVA / Hektor GIOTOPOULOS MOORE	AUS	ISU GP Skate Canada International 2024	26/10/2024	186.14	S
14	Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Michal WOZNIAK	POL	ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2024 (GP debut season)	07/12/2024	185.50	S
15	Anastasia VAIPAN-LAW / Luke DIGBY	GBR	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024	22/11/2024	182.37	S
16	Kelly Ann LAURIN / Loucas ETHIER	CAN	ISU GP Finlandia Trophy 2024	17/11/2024	178.57	S
17	Daria DANILOVA / Michel TSIBA	NED	ISU GP NHK Trophy 2024	09/11/2024	178.37	S
18	Emily CHAN / Spencer Akira HOWE	USA	ISU GP Skate Canada International 2024	26/10/2024	178.31	S
19	Jiaxuan ZHANG / Yihang HUANG	CHN	ISU Grand Prix Final 2024/25 (JR debut season)	07/12/2024	176.09	J
20	Katie MCBEATH / Daniil PARKMAN	USA	ISU CS John Nicks International Pairs Competition 2024 (int'l debut season)	04/09/2024	173.37	S
21	Yuna NAGAOKA / Sumitada MORIGUCHI	JPN	ISU GP NHK Trophy 2024	09/11/2024	172.47	S
22	Fiona BOMBARDIER / Benjamin MIMAR	CAN	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024 (3rd in debut)	22/11/2024	170.51	S
23	Audrey SHIN / Balazs NAGY	USA	ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2024 (3rd in debut)	07/12/2024	170.21	S
24	Oxana VOUILLAMOZ / Tom BOUVART	SUI	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024 (4th in CS debut)	22/11/2024	170.09	S

Senior pairs currently with ISU SB scores that made their international debuts this season:

36	Gabriella IZZO / Luc MAIERHOFER	AUT	ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2024	07/12/2024	150.60	S
37	Nica DIGERNESS / Mark SADUSKY	USA	ISU CS John Nicks International Pairs Competition 2024	04/09/2024	147.72	S
41	Tae Ok RYOM / Kum Chol HAN	PRK	ISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2024	15/09/2024	143.63	S
54	Brooke MCINTOSH / Marco ZANDRON	ESP	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024	22/11/2024	129.90	S
56	Julia Sylvia GUNNARSDOTTIR / Manuel PIAZZA	ISL	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024	22/11/2024	129.35	S
64	Tilda ALTERYD / Noel-Antoine PIERRE	FRA	ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2024	07/12/2024	118.67	S

 

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ISU Season Best total scores as of December 10, 2024: https://results.isu.org/isujsstat/sb2024-25/sbtspto.htm

Top 24 teams currently have scores of 170+:

1	Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nikita VOLODIN	GER	ISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 2024	20/09/2024	218.44	S
2	Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA	JPN	ISU GP Skate America 2024	19/10/2024	214.23	S
3	Anastasiia METELKINA / Luka BERULAVA	GEO	ISU GP NHK Trophy 2024	09/11/2024	213.05	S
4	Sara CONTI / Niccolo MACII	ITA	ISU GP Cup of China 2024	23/11/2024	211.05	S
5	Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK / Maxime DESCHAMPS	CAN	ISU GP Finlandia Trophy 2024	17/11/2024	207.44	S
6	Ellie KAM / Danny O'SHEA	USA	ISU GP Skate America 2024	19/10/2024	201.73	S
7	Maria PAVLOVA / Alexei SVIATCHENKO	HUN	ISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2024	15/09/2024	196.67	S
8	Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI	ITA	ISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2024	15/09/2024	192.47	S
9	Alisa EFIMOVA / Misha MITROFANOV	USA	ISU GP Skate America 2024 (int'l debut season)	19/10/2024	191.51	S
10	Ekaterina GEYNISH / Dmitrii CHIGIREV	UZB	ISU GP Skate Canada Int'l 2024 (debut season for UZB)	26/10/2024	189.65	S
11	Lia PEREIRA / Trennt MICHAUD	CAN	ISU GP Cup of China 2024	23/11/2024	188.74	S
12	Annika HOCKE / Robert KUNKEL	GER	ISU GP NHK Trophy 2024	09/11/2024	188.54	S
13	Anastasia GOLUBEVA / Hektor GIOTOPOULOS MOORE	AUS	ISU GP Skate Canada International 2024	26/10/2024	186.14	S
14	Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Michal WOZNIAK	POL	ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2024 (GP debut season)	07/12/2024	185.50	S
15	Anastasia VAIPAN-LAW / Luke DIGBY	GBR	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024	22/11/2024	182.37	S
16	Kelly Ann LAURIN / Loucas ETHIER	CAN	ISU GP Finlandia Trophy 2024	17/11/2024	178.57	S
17	Daria DANILOVA / Michel TSIBA	NED	ISU GP NHK Trophy 2024	09/11/2024	178.37	S
18	Emily CHAN / Spencer Akira HOWE	USA	ISU GP Skate Canada International 2024	26/10/2024	178.31	S
19	Jiaxuan ZHANG / Yihang HUANG	CHN	ISU Grand Prix Final 2024/25 (JR debut season)	07/12/2024	176.09	J
20	Katie MCBEATH / Daniil PARKMAN	USA	ISU CS John Nicks International Pairs Competition 2024 (int'l debut season)	04/09/2024	173.37	S
21	Yuna NAGAOKA / Sumitada MORIGUCHI	JPN	ISU GP NHK Trophy 2024	09/11/2024	172.47	S
22	Fiona BOMBARDIER / Benjamin MIMAR	CAN	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024 (3rd in debut)	22/11/2024	170.51	S
23	Audrey SHIN / Balazs NAGY	USA	ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2024 (3rd in debut)	07/12/2024	170.21	S
24	Oxana VOUILLAMOZ / Tom BOUVART	SUI	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024 (4th in CS debut)	22/11/2024	170.09	S

Senior pairs currently with ISU SB scores that made their international debuts this season:

36	Gabriella IZZO / Luc MAIERHOFER	AUT	ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2024	07/12/2024	150.60	S
37	Nica DIGERNESS / Mark SADUSKY	USA	ISU CS John Nicks International Pairs Competition 2024	04/09/2024	147.72	S
41	Tae Ok RYOM / Kum Chol HAN	PRK	ISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2024	15/09/2024	143.63	S
54	Brooke MCINTOSH / Marco ZANDRON	ESP	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024	22/11/2024	129.90	S
56	Julia Sylvia GUNNARSDOTTIR / Manuel PIAZZA	ISL	ISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 2024	22/11/2024	129.35	S
64	Tilda ALTERYD / Noel-Antoine PIERRE	FRA	ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2024	07/12/2024	118.67	S

If it was the end of the season now, would the top 24 teams be guaranteed two Grand Prix’s next season