2018/19 Russian National Competitions

[oleada]

I kinda like Konkina/Vakhnov

Yes but your taste is notoriously questionable

 

[Jeschke]

Yes but your taste is notoriously questionable

Oh boy...

 

[oleada]

Oh boy...

You know I love me some #teamtrainwreck though.

 

[Tinami Amori]

I kinda like Konkina/Vakhnov

I do to, and much rather see Vakhnov with Konkina given her forms/lines/movements, than with Polischuk. The last competition a year ago when Vakhnov skated with her they did well, but even then my thoughts were that he needs to find a more elegant partner to go further.

I find Polischuk not very "elegant" in movement and lines she crates, and bit vulgar is her appearance and facial expressions.
https://i1.wp.com/www.ice-dance.com...lishchuk-Vakhnov_600.jpg?resize=338,450&ssl=1
https://fsrussia.ru/images/interviyou/ProkatyJunior2017/D16B7425.jpg

Konkina so far is a much better prospect..
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3DMOPNCpFlM/maxresdefault.jpg
https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...-in-the-junior-picture-id1032914008?s=612x612

Well, judges certainly rewarding Konkina/Vakhnov above Polischuk and new guy..

 

[Tinami Amori]

Today's events videos (click on segments back and force if you see a still)
Pairs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kRCmx27O2E

 

[DobrinFan]

Pogo has to skate both of the remaining RC's to make it to nationals, or?

And good luck to Pogo and Gubanova in trying to qualify for nats. Pogo has no choice but to go in this field, if no withdrawals (Trusova/Kostornaya/Vasilieva/Tarakanova):

Preliminary Moscow entry list for Kazan stage https://www.sportvokrug.ru/competitions/4723//participants/

 

[rfisher]

And good luck to Pogo and Gubanova in trying to qualify for nats. Pogo has no choice but to go in this field, if no withdrawals (Trusova/Kostornaya/Vasilieva/Tarakanova):

Preliminary Moscow entry list for Kazan stage https://www.sportvokrug.ru/competitions/4723//participants/

Damn. They"ve already qualifed. They need to rest before the JGPF and let Pogo and Gubanova have a shot.

 

[WillyElliot]

Damn. They"ve already qualifed. They need to rest before the JGPF and let Pogo and Gubanova have a shot.

Exactly. It almost seems unfair to have to qualify for nationals through the Russia Cups when you are competing against the big guns who already have qualified through JGPF. Gubanova doesn't stand a chance of a medal here, and neither does Pogo. How is Nugubanova (sp?) doing wrt to qualifying for Nationals? I was impressed with her in the last RC event. So much talent in Russia. Imagine if the US had this much depth, where a clean program with 3Z-3T might only guarantee you top 10? These girls need to look for another country to represent.

 

[hanca]

What I find unfair is that at some events there can be 5-6 skaters who already qualified (through JGPF or having GP event) and their results still count inti the qualification order, so those trying to qualify are fighting for perhaps 7th place at best at that event. That can take skaters out of nationals. On another event there is no one from those top skaters, so those who are trying to qualify have a huge advantage. It would be so easy to fix this problem, for example introducing the rule that the placements of the skaters who already qualified are not counted into the ranking for the nationals.

Also, at some events there may be just three or four competitors and and the next event there can be twelve. So the fourth from the event with less skaters may score only 120 points and yet be higher in the ranking list than the skater who placed 9th at the more busy event and scored perhaps 190 points.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Today's Russian Cup III had Jr. Boys FS, Jr and Sr. Ladies SP.

Here are videos for Ladies (first in line) and Girls (below) SP today, and Boys (below that).
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheFSRussia/videos

Result page
https://fsrussia.ru/results/1819/3etap/SEG011.HTM
1. Gulyakova
2. Tarusina
3. Sakhanovich
..
8. Panenkova

 

[hanca]

That’s second bad competition for Panenkova. I wonder if she disappears the way Feditchkina did.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Live feed: Russian Cup III (live now, may not work too long after it is finished, but there will be vids later).

Girls and Ladies FS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXW7_-x5cM

 

[Stephanie]

Guliakova makes nationals for sure with two wins. I hope she gets a senior B soon.

 

[her grace]

Final Standings Sr. Ladies Russian Cup III

FPl. Name Nation Points KP PP
1 Anastasia GULYAKOVA SPB 210.11 1 1
2 Anna TARUSINA MOS 203.84 2 2
3 Elizaveta SHILENKO SPB 193.45 4 4
4 Serafima SAKHANOVICH SPB 191.40 3 5
5 Ksenia TSIBINOVA MOS 189.15 7 3
6 Ksenia SINITSYNA MOS 187.61 6 6
7 Aleksandra FOMINA MOS 172.40 5 8
8 Daria PANENKOVA MOS 167.60 8 7
9 Maria SHEVELEVA OMO 127.82 9 10
10 Elizaveta MARTYNOVA SVO 127.65 10 9
11 Valeria NIKULINA PRM 115.24 11 11
12 Veronika MONAT MOB 106.34 12 12

 

[rfisher]

((((((#lipstickgirl))))))) From the JGPF to no nationals in one season. Maybe she'll use LaTuk as her inspiration going forward.

 

[Jeschke]

((((((#lipstickgirl))))))) From the JGPF to no nationals in one season. Maybe she'll use LaTuk as her inspiration going forward.

She skated Grand Prix.
She has her national ticket secure, if she shows up!

 

[Jeschke]

Guliakova makes nationals for sure with two wins. I hope she gets a senior B soon.

Has someone a current standing in ladies and men?

 

[rfisher]

She skated Grand Prix.
She has her national ticket secure, if she shows up!

I totally forgot she got a GP event. But, given her performance in the Russian cup series, I vote her spot at nationals goes to Gubanova.

 

[Jeschke]

I totally forgot she got a GP event. But, given her performance in the Russian cup series, I vote her spot at nationals goes to Gubanova.

Oh I am totally fine with you focusing on 'Gubanova's spot got robbed by Panenkova' instead of Stasia now

 

[DobrinFan]

Has someone a current standing in ladies and men?

I have the men. I can do the ladies later when I get home from SA if no one else does.

 

[Jeschke]

I have the men.

And are u willing to share?

I can do the ladies later when I get home from SA if no one else does.

I don't even have a clue how points are rewarded here.

 

[DobrinFan]

Men

Savosin 26 (qualified)
Milyukov 20 (qualfied)
Lezheev 18 (probably qualified)
Kovalev 14

One event remaining
Murashov 11
Petrov 11
Kokovkin 7
Katichev 5
Vlasenko 4
Shulepov 3
Maslenin 3
Rukhin 2
Vetlugin 1

Already qualified

Lazukin GP
Kolyada GP
Erokhov GP
Dmitriev GP
Voronov GP
Aliev GP
Samarin GP
Gumennik JGPF

Ten spots TBD from Cup series.

 

[Jeschke]

With GP spots for Aliev, Dimitriev, Erokhov, Kolyada, Lazukin, Samarin, Voronov and JGPF for Gumenik (is he old enough?) that leaves 10 spots for men, or?
Do I dare top have still hope for Perkova's toyboy?

 

[Jeschke]

Shulepov 3 (in 10 or 11 place)

You know the important facts

 

[DobrinFan]

With GP spots for Aliev, Dimitriev, Erokhov, Kolyada, Lazukin, Samarin, Voronov and JGPF for Gumenik (is he old enough?) that leaves 10 spots for men, or?
Do I dare top have still hope for Perkova's toyboy?

10 spots

 

[rfisher]

Oh I am totally fine with you focusing on 'Gubanova's spot got robbed by Panenkova' instead of Stasia now

One has to move on to the current situation. Konstantinova will lose her own spot all by herself.

 

[DobrinFan]

I don't even have a clue how points are rewarded here.

I just use the same scale the the ISU uses for GP events, pts up to 10 places.

Gumenik (is he old enough?)

Gumennik is 16 going on 17 (April) although he looks (and skates, IMO) like he is 14/15.

 

[haribobo]

LADIES
Gulyakova 1,1
Shilenko 3, 4
Sakhanovich 5, 4
Scherbakova 1
Nugumanova 2
Vasilieva 2
Tarusina 2
Gubanova 3
Talalykina 3
Gracheva 4
Solovieva 5
Simonova 5
Istomina 6
Tsurskaya 6
Sinitsina 6
Kolomiets 7
Leonova 7
Foamina 7
Ogoreltseva 8
Panenkova 8, 8

GP- Samodurova, Radionova, Zagitova, Medvedeva, Sotskova, Konstantinova, Panenkova, Tsurskaya, Tuktamysheva
JGPF- Scherbakova, Trusova, Kostornaia, Tarakanova

13 spots used above. 5 from the Cup events...

 

[Tinami Amori]

Last Day - Russian Cup III - Here are links to today's (past night's) FS for Ladies and Girls. In Russian (most parts translate in Google)

Programmes (Ladies first 12, then Girls below)
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheFSRussia/videos

FS Results Ladies
https://fsrussia.ru/results/1819/3etap/SEG012.HTM
Ladies Final standings
https://fsrussia.ru/results/1819/3etap/CAT006RS.HTM

FS Results Girls
https://fsrussia.ru/results/1819/3etap/SEG010.HTM
Girls Final Standings
https://fsrussia.ru/results/1819/3etap/CAT005RS.HTM

 

[Tinami Amori]

I totally forgot she got a GP event. But, given her performance in the Russian cup series, I vote her spot at nationals goes to Gubanova.

There are already unofficial whispers questioning Panenkova's participation in GP events "is it worth it for her to go when at the 2 local Russian Cup events, without top contenders, she can't get up past 8th placements, and her nerves are not in place/cries after skates and in K-n-C". Some note that her form decreased since the Test Skate, and her coach Tzareva is not a happy camper..

Test Skate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w8EVM0LORo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ek6MK3QpCA

RC III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_GIhv0tJns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yXX08HG1vM