Chinese skating news & social media updates pt. 5, 2023 onwards

[raruki]

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JIN Shuxian(12 years old) landed a tremendous 3lz+3t in the national novice championship.
The distance of the 3lz is HUGE! The overseas training in Korea seems to have paid off.

 

[On My Own]

Have nationals competitions begun in China? https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BQ4y14744/ Just saw this for Yudong, he's against junior men.

 

[Gris]

Have nationals competitions begun in China? https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BQ4y14744/ Just saw this for Yudong, he's against junior men.

Yes, Junior Nationals started yesterday - thread in the Kiss & Cry section started by @crzesk8dad .

And Novice Nationals concluded a few days ago - Novice A medallists:

Novice A Dance

1 Zhixuan Li / Shanyu Deng 110.41 PD1 PD2 FD
2 Ziyue Yang / Yifan Liao 94.12 PD1 PD2 FD
3 Yutong Wang / Pintian Wang 86.50 PD1 PD2 FD

Novice A Boys

1 Jiarui Li 132.35 SP FS
2 Ruiyang Zhang 115.82 SP FS
3 Zichen Ma 114.20 SP FS

Novice A Pairs

1 Yiqing Zhang / Yongzheng Chen 80.81 SP FS
2 Ziyang Lin / Enci Lin 58.92 SP FS

Novice A Girls

1 Ariel Guo (HKG) 141.34 SP FS
2 Shuxian Jin 141.30 SP FS
3 Yihan Wang (Harbin) 132.48 SP FS

All individual videos are posted by 缇可张 on Bilibili.

 

[On My Own]

I love this Xinjiang ID team skating to Indian music - peak inclusion/territorial claim propaganda.

【23-24全青】穆妮热 罗合曼/阿卜杜瓦日斯 穆太力普｜第十一名(35.73) 2023全国青年锦标赛冰舞韵律舞 花样滑冰_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

https://weibo.com/l/wblive/p/show/1022:2321324970560588480566, 视频播放量 14581、弹幕量 27、点赞数 352、投硬币枚数 8、收藏人数 144、转发人数 47, 视频作者 薄荷山茶hydrangea, 作者简介 id和薄荷茶没关系～，相关视频：【24-25JGP③】王一涵携一代宗师问鼎冠军(129.32) 青年组大奖赛泰国站女单自由滑，【22-23俄罗斯挑战杯】顶级整活·俄罗斯经典节目cos串烧 Matvey VETLUGIN(14.91) 2023俄罗斯挑战杯表演滑比赛...

www.bilibili.com

 

[raruki]

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【23-24全青】田桐赫｜冠军(140.14) 2023全国青年锦标赛男单自由滑 花样滑冰_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

https://weibo.com/l/wblive/p/show/1022:2321324970560588480566, 视频播放量 13909、弹幕量 32、点赞数 285、投硬币枚数 11、收藏人数 77、转发人数 37, 视频作者 薄荷山茶hydrangea, 作者简介 id和薄荷茶没关系～，相关视频：【23-24】短道花滑重出江湖 跳跃+竞速接力赛 第一频道杯元素战，【23-24CS②】马琳琳｜第一名 Ilia MALININ(100.87) 2023秋季经典赛男单短节目...

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TIAN Tonghe is a true talent. He now consecutively lands 4 clean programs in a season. Congrats on his WJC and WYO spot!

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姜智敖 教练贾曙光 男单自由滑 2023/2024赛季全国花样滑冰青年锦标赛_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

https://weibo.com/u/7725475508 教练贾曙光感恩clean开了个好头3Lz+3T 3F+2T 3F 3Lo 3Lz 2A+1Eu+3S TES 62.45 PCS 62.94 TSS 127.19 总分 185.30, 视频播放量 405、弹幕量 0、点赞数 10、投硬币枚数 0、收藏人数 2、转发人数 0, 视频作者 缇可张, 作者简介 主要收集了我国花样滑冰小女单们的比赛视频，有时候会剪点花滑脑洞放上来，相关视频：金书贤 年龄最小 难度最高 全锦女单第四名 教练王佳磊 2022-2023赛季全国花样滑冰锦标赛，梁嘉熙 女单短节目...

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JIANG Zhiao is also pleasing to watch(coached by JIA Shuguang), nice SS.

 

[raruki]

2018-2019全国花样滑冰少年系列赛暨U系列少年比赛第一站：田桐赫的自由滑_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

https://weibo.com/tv/v/jEWhgtelE?fid=1034:4292636610068731, 视频播放量 2197、弹幕量 11、点赞数 37、投硬币枚数 2、收藏人数 19、转发人数 13, 视频作者 沐浴草, 作者简介 ，相关视频：【田桐赫】花滑俱乐部联赛呼伦贝尔站FS，田桐赫 小蜜蜂 教练安龙鹤 成年组男单短节目 2021全国花样滑冰大奖赛，田桐赫 小蜜蜂 男单第二名 2022年花样滑冰JGP中国参赛运动员选拔赛，田桐赫 小蜜蜂...

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Fun-fact: Chinese fans called Tian “little bee” because he wore a bee-liked custom in a competition.

 

[On My Own]

I really do like Tonghe, but not sold on Zhiao.

BTW, I recently came across this boy again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csEzrDIrLEU

Who for me was the most promising junior - but I think he had a growth spurt and retired. Those are Jerermy Abbott-like steps, truly stunning to watch from a junior.

Fun-fact: Chinese fans called Tian “little bee” because he wore a bee-liked custom in a competition.

You should compile all the junior nicknames!

 

[Gris]

Junior Nationals medallists:

Dance

1 Yufei Lin / Zijian Gao 153.70 RD FD
2 Xuantong Li / Xinkang Wang 153.11 RD FD
3 Tong Liu / Quanshuo Ge 137.78 RD FD

Men

1 Tonghe Tian 214.07 SP FS
2 Yudong Chen 207.98 SP FS
3 Wenbao Han 204.56 SP FS

Women

1 Shiqi Gao 184.91 SP FS
2 Ruotang Li 179.64 SP FS
3 Yihan Wang (Beijing) 173.40 SP FS

(All videos posted by 缇可张 on Bilibili)

According to the selection criteria, skaters for Junior Worlds (sans pairs) and Youth Winter Olympics should be:

JWC: Tonghe Tian, Yudong Chen; Shiqi Gao, Ruotang Li; Yufei Lin / Zijian Gao
YOG: Tonghe Tian; Shiqi Gao; and Tong Liu / Quanshuo Ge if CHN ends up with a spot in dance

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I love this Xinjiang ID team skating to Indian music

【23-24全青】穆妮热 罗合曼/阿卜杜瓦日斯 穆太力普｜第十一名(35.73) 2023全国青年锦标赛冰舞韵律舞 花样滑冰_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

https://weibo.com/l/wblive/p/show/1022:2321324970560588480566, 视频播放量 14581、弹幕量 27、点赞数 352、投硬币枚数 8、收藏人数 144、转发人数 47, 视频作者 薄荷山茶hydrangea, 作者简介 id和薄荷茶没关系～，相关视频：【24-25JGP③】王一涵携一代宗师问鼎冠军(129.32) 青年组大奖赛泰国站女单自由滑，【22-23俄罗斯挑战杯】顶级整活·俄罗斯经典节目cos串烧 Matvey VETLUGIN(14.91) 2023俄罗斯挑战杯表演滑比赛...

www.bilibili.com

I think they qualified for the National Winter Games.

 

[crzesk8dad]

I think they qualified for the National Winter Games.

Gris, do you know what the criteria is for selection into the NWGs?

 

[On My Own]

Gris, do you know what the criteria is for selection into the NWGs?

She posted a grid that was supposed to tally the points for qualification, which consisted of two national competitions and two international competitions. But it stopped getting updated.

I think they qualified for the National Winter Games.

Good for them!

Wasn't there a Hong Kong team that was trying to as well?

 

[coralline]

Wasn't there a Hong Kong team that was trying to as well?

Yes，the Hong Kong ID team is in Senior this season, but they are very young and will try to represent HK in JGP next season.

 

[On My Own]

1 Tonghe Tian 214.07 SP FS

Huh, go Tonghe. Has he at least been landing 3As in practice? This is very promising otherwise.

 

[Gris]

Gris, do you know what the criteria is for selection into the NWGs?

Skaters can earn points from 2 Inter-club Leagues, Nationals and 2 international assignments (GP/JGP) and the best 3 results will count. There are 18 spots for Junior Singles and 8 spots for Junior Dance. The official table hasn't been updated - a fan (komorebi-if) on Weibo has compiled a tentative list of the Junior NWG entries (unofficial):

Junior Men (18): https://weibo.com/6290293780/NuqDC3Ock (first pic)

Tonghe Tian, Qihan (Jayden) Zhao, Yudong Chen, Yihe Sun, Ziyi Li, Zexuan Wang, Zhile Yu, Yingrui Li, Boren Lu, Bofeng Wang, Simon Sun (HKG), Mingda Li, Yihan Ren, Yinbo Dong, Chit Wang Chow (HKG), Yuchen Liu, Jingtong Yang, Junda Li

Junior Women (18): https://weibo.com/6290293780/NuqDC3Ock (second pic)

Yihan Wang (Beijing), Shiqi Gao, Ruotang Li, Wandi Xu, Megan Wong (HKG), Jiaxin Shi, Zijun Zhou, Hengxin Jin, Xuanyu Liu, Tsz Ching Chan (HKG), Yun Xue (HKG), Chloe Desiree Leung (HKG), Xinyao Liu, Yiyun Wen, Xiyao Yang, Yaxuan Zhu, Ziye Li, Ziyue Yang

Junior Dance (8): https://weibo.com/6290293780/NulO22zKi

Yufei Lin / Zijian Gao, Xuantong Li / Xinkang Wang, Xin'ai Ding / Hanchong Zheng, Shanjie Yin / Shirui Yang, Tong Liu / Quanshuo Ge, Yuxi Gao / Suyang Li, Xintong Qu / Zhihong Liu, Munire Rahman / Abduwaris Mutellip

ETA: I just checked and the table for Senior qualifications is up-to-date now.

 

[On My Own]

Tonghe Tian, Qihan (Jayden) Zhao, Yudong Chen, Yihe Sun, Ziyi Li, Zexuan Wang, Zhile Yu, Yingrui Li, Boren Lu, Bofeng Wang, Simon Sun (HKG), Mingda Li, Yihan Ren, Yinbo Dong, Chit Wang Chow (HKG), Yuchen Liu, Jingtong Yang, Junda Li

Interesting that Yudong is skating entirely in juniors this season - for sure expected senior national events, at least. So I guess we should be expecting David and Juwen (or whoever does well at nationals as was the selection criteria) to appear at 4CC?

Also, why does Qihan have an English name? Is he someone who's switched?

ETA:

ETA: I just checked and the table for Senior qualifications is up-to-date now.

See now Han Wenbao, somehow, is in senior NWG, even though he won bronze in junior nationals... (3rd highest in the men's table, second being Boyang and first being David)

 

[Gris]

Also, why does Qihan have an English name? Is he someone who's switched?

@crzesk8dad posted in the competition thread that Qihan aka Jayden has been training in Irvine with Sean Rabbitt since early 2023 and I guess that's why he also goes by an English name?

His SP at Junior Nationals: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rc411B7U4/ (Sean Rabbitt was with him in the K&C)

ETA:

See now Han Wenbao, somehow, is in senior NWG, even though he won bronze in junior nationals... (3rd highest in the men's table, second being Boyang and first being David)

Yihan Wang from Harbin is on the qualification list for Senior NWG and she just won the bronze medal in Novice Nationals

 

[On My Own]

His SP at Junior Nationals: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rc411B7U4/ (Sean Rabbitt was with him in the K&C)

Hey these junior boys have top tier costumes. Good to see, tbh, I remember when they wore hand-me-downs ? Very happy to see CFSA actively investing in skating.

 

[On My Own]

@Gris is there a well known reason as to why there are no Pairs in Junior NWG?

ETA: I just checked and the table for Senior qualifications is up-to-date now.

The ones who caught my eye for each discipline:

Women:
Tong Ruichen, An Xiangyi, Zhu Yi (Beverly), Chen Hongyi

Men:
Dai "Daiwei" (David), Jin Boyang, Han Wenbao, Xu Juwen, Jiang Zhiao since he's been talked about in seniors for some inexplicable reason again, Peng Zhiming

Pairs:
Peng Cheng/Wang Lei, Zhang Siyang/Yang Yongchao, Yang Yixi/Deng Shunyang, Wang Yuchen/Zhu Lei ETA: oh how could I forget currently in 8th

Ice Dance:
Chen Xizi/Xing Jianing, Shi Shang/Wu Nan, Wang Shiyue/Liu Xinyu

 

[Gris]

@Gris is there a well known reason as to why there are no Pairs in Junior NWG?

Not enough entries, I suppose. Junior age-eligible pairs team now compete in Seniors domestically.

 

[shirleyfryeburg]

Junior Nationals medallists:

Dance

1 Yufei Lin / Zijian Gao 153.70 RD FD
2 Xuantong Li / Xinkang Wang 153.11 RD FD
3 Tong Liu / Quanshuo Ge 137.78 RD FD

Men

1 Tonghe Tian 214.07 SP FS
2 Yudong Chen 207.98 SP FS
3 Wenbao Han 204.56 SP FS

Women

1 Shiqi Gao 184.91 SP FS
2 Ruotang Li 179.64 SP FS
3 Yihan Wang (Beijing) 173.40 SP FS

(All videos posted by 缇可张 on Bilibili)

According to the selection criteria, skaters for Junior Worlds (sans pairs) and Youth Winter Olympics should be:

JWC: Tonghe Tian, Yudong Chen; Shiqi Gao, Ruotang Li; Yufei Lin / Zijian Gao
YOG: Tonghe Tian; Shiqi Gao; and Tong Liu / Quanshuo Ge if CHN ends up with a spot in dance

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I think they qualified for the National Winter Games.

Does China actually get a spot in dance?

 

[On My Own]

Does China actually get a spot in dance?

I think they do?

Junior Worlds: Priority given to skaters in the Top 50 on ISU Season's Ranking. The other entries for Men, Women and Dance will be selected based on the results of the Junior Nationals (Nov. 19-27), the other entries for Pairs will be selected based on the results of the Senior Nationals (Dec. 21-24).

Last season, IIRC Li/Wang didn't qualify for the FD, so I would guess there's only one spot.

3 Wenbao Han 204.56 SP FS

So I just watched him, and I feel like I wouldn't have minded him beating Yudong? Wenbao has a very drab SP, but gave a fantastic performance in the LP, and his Lutz is the best jump between the top 3. Yudong has the BV over him so I get why he beat him (barely!), but I wouldn't say there was much quality to him overall. Would have given Wenbao higher PCS than him at least.

Good to see Shiqi being the top junior girl! I think her jumps really need some work though... It's strange to see some of the Chinese girls not being good jumpers, because that's always been THE thing for Chinese singles skaters, and I hope they can work with some of those fantastic jump coaches in the future.

So now I'm curious which of Li/Wang and Lin/Gao will go, because both have tech mins ? I didn't watch the skating, so don't know if the placement's fair for me or not, but I do think Li/Wang are the better team...

 

[shirleyfryeburg]

I think they do?


Last season, IIRC Li/Wang didn't qualify for the FD, so I would guess there's only one spot.



So I just watched him, and I feel like I wouldn't have minded him beating Yudong? Wenbao has a very drab SP, but gave a fantastic performance in the LP, and his Lutz is the best jump between the top 3. Yudong has the BV over him so I get why he beat him (barely!), but I wouldn't say there was much quality to him overall. Would have given Wenbao higher PCS than him at least.

Good to see Shiqi being the top junior girl! I think her jumps really need some work though... It's strange to see some of the Chinese girls not being good jumpers, because that's always been THE thing for Chinese singles skaters, and I hope they can work with some of those fantastic jump coaches in the future.

So now I'm curious which of Li/Wang and Lin/Gao will go, because both have tech mins ? I didn't watch the skating, so don't know if the placement's fair for me or not, but I do think Li/Wang are the better team...

I believe Lin/Gao will go because they have better ranking and placed 1st at this competition. I believe it's a one shot thing this year. They will only look at this one competition.

 

[crzesk8dad]

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[Gris]

Junior Men (18): https://weibo.com/6290293780/NuqDC3Ock (first pic)

Tonghe Tian, Qihan (Jayden) Zhao, Yudong Chen, Yihe Sun, Ziyi Li, Zexuan Wang, Zhile Yu, Yingrui Li, Boren Lu, Bofeng Wang, Simon Sun (HKG), Mingda Li, Yihan Ren, Yinbo Dong, Chit Wang Chow (HKG), Yuchen Liu, Jingtong Yang, Junda Li Yingchun Guo

排名信息

The official ranking has been updated - the table compiled by komorebi-if on Weibo is mostly correct except that the last place qualifier in Junior Men should be Yingchun Guo.

 

[raruki]

IMG China has made a mini-documentary about Li/Wang's Mongolia-inspired FD (English subtitles are included.)

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[Kateri]

I found this little "famous people!" interview/article about Yang Yongchao and Zhang Siyang in a Chinese learner's magazine: https://photos.app.goo.gl/YQytNDRMAW6XQT3Q6

I'm not a Chinese learner, though, so I have no idea what it says!

 

[Gris]

I found this little "famous people!" interview/article about Yang Yongchao and Zhang Siyang in a Chinese learner's magazine: https://photos.app.goo.gl/YQytNDRMAW6XQT3Q6

I'm not a Chinese learner, though, so I have no idea what it says!

The text in the purple block says: “Siyang Zhang and Yongchao Yang are two famous pair skaters who won the gold medal at 2022-23 Chinese Nationals.”

The dialogue below:

Q: Do you train every day?
Yongchao: We train for many hours a day. We’re very busy.

Q: Siyang, what do you do in your free time?
Siyang: We like reading, swimming and playing badminton.

Q: Let’s talk about the history of winter sports in China!
Yongchao: Winter sports have had a long history in China. The first pair of skates appeared in 1745 during the reign of Emperor Qianlong.

Great find!

 

[On My Own]

The first pair of skates appeared in 1745 during the reign of Emperor Qianlong.

Well that's cool. /pun

 

[On My Own]

Good result for Jin. The protocols also show he can do well with just one or two quads and focuses on going clean.

 

[On My Own]

@kosjenka well your post got featured here haha

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4976631093399318

 

[kosjenka]

@kosjenka well your post got featured here haha

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4976631093399318

I am sure this is from the group of girls from China that attended the competition. They are so sweet. You can see them in my live stream video.