The Dance Hall 10: The Saitama Samba 2022-2023

[sap5]

lilah & lewis as mfd & hageneuer in the kiss and cry with p&c at 2015 worlds

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1,710 likes, 71 comments - lewisgibson4 on October 31, 2022: "This Halloween we pay tribute to one of the most iconic and emotional Kiss & Cry memories with our fabulous coaches and training mates. Gabby and Guillaume’s first world title was one to remember!! Happy Halloween 🎃 . . . ...

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(with harris & chan playing p&c)

This is excellent. Above and beyond.

 

[Rhumba d’Amour]

They should listen to me and do an entirely character driven piece as United Airlines flight attendants during the era of bad passenger behavior, with the choreographic step being them working together to duct tape a passenger to a seat. Or one of them is the flight attendant and the other is a passenger who gets progressively more drunk during the flight.

Interesting concept, but I think Hawayek and Baker have claimed that kind of physical comedy as their territory

 

[sk9tingfan]

@SkatingScores has identified a glitch in the IJS software which is underscoring GOE associated wuth the following elements. The ISU should hire her stat!


1. All Step Seqs in RD
2. CiSt in FD
3. One-Foot Turns

https://twitter.com/SkatingScores/status/1587125575252168706

 

[chantilly]

@SkatingScores has identified a glitch in the IJS software which is underscoring GOE associated wuth the following elements. The ISU should hire her stat!


1. All Step Seqs in RD
2. CiSt in FD
3. One-Foot Turns

https://twitter.com/SkatingScores/status/1587125575252168706

Whuuuuut?!!!!!

 

[sk9tingfan]

Whuuuuut?!!!!!

Yeah. @SkatingScores creates some of most valuable and fascinating figure skating scoring analyses.

 

[Karen-W]

@SkatingScores has identified a glitch in the IJS software which is underscoring GOE associated wuth the following elements. The ISU should hire her stat!


1. All Step Seqs in RD
2. CiSt in FD
3. One-Foot Turns

https://twitter.com/SkatingScores/status/1587125575252168706

They actually identified the error as something that occurred at Japan Sectionals, so it's possible the glitch is in the JSF software but not in the ISU's overall software.

 

[sk9tingfan]

They actually identified the error as something that occurred at Japan Sectionals, so it's possible the glitch is in the JSF software but not in the ISU's overall software.

They still should hire her.

 

[her grace]

If they're thinking long-term, I don't think skating for France would have given them a better chance in the long run, although it might have given them more chances to compete at Euros, if they were able to turn around the internal politics.

Thanks for the thoughts on L/LG. I suppose a lot of their future will turn on whether Gilles/Poirier and/or Fournier-Beaudry/Sorenson stick around to the next Olympics. If either retires, then they're in the fight for an Olympic spot. If not, they might not get a post-season until the Olympic year when they'd presumably go to 4CC.

 

[RoseRed]

They actually identified the error as something that occurred at Japan Sectionals, so it's possible the glitch is in the JSF software but not in the ISU's overall software.

Just with a quick look at the SC protocols, it seems like the ISU is not making that mistake (which is a relief).

 

[muffinplus]

I am extremely confused by Gilles & Poirier's RD and how it fits the theme...it sounds more like Broadway musical theatre rather than anything latin. Surprised they didn't get hit with any violations?

 

[chantilly]

I am extremely confused by Gilles & Poirier's RD and how it fits the theme...it sounds more like Broadway musical theatre rather than anything latin. Surprised they didn't get hit with any violations?

It is not remotely close to a Broadway musical sound
It does have some sound for some jazz and r and b/ soul flavour however.

 

[muffinplus]

It is not remotely close to a Broadway musical sound
It does have some sound for some jazz and r and b/ soul flavour however.

Are you saying there are no jazz broadway musicals?... I mean it's more Broadway musical sounding than it is Latin....but if you don't agree ... that's not really the point...it's just not Latin sounding in any way... people say Chock and Bates' RD is not Latin but it is waayy more Latin than G&P's There is ZERO latin anything in there, other than the drum beat in the slow section. It was just extremely confusing watching itand trying to figure out the relationship between this year's theme and what that RD was.

 

[leilaofpaper]

I mean they’ve categorised the first song under Cha Cha - and aren’t the dance steps the more important part of it? They definitely do elements of the cha cha. You could do ballroom style dance to not typically ballroom music, so why not the same for these Latin themes?

 

[Impromptu]

I mean they’ve categorised the first song under Cha Cha - and aren’t the dance steps the more important part of it? They definitely do elements of the cha cha. You could do ballroom style dance to not typically ballroom music, so why not the same for these Latin themes?

Seems to be what these contestants on "Strictly Come Dancing" did... a cha cha to the same piece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYXch_AZrWQ

 

[Belsornia]

Is there any news on Mazingue/Gaidajenko of Estonia? They haven’t competed yet this season and I don’t recall seeing them on any start lists either.

 

[muffinplus]

I mean they’ve categorised the first song under Cha Cha - and aren’t the dance steps the more important part of it? They definitely do elements of the cha cha. You could do ballroom style dance to not typically ballroom music, so why not the same for these Latin themes?

I didn’t say they should only be doing typical ballroom music. Just saying the music they picked has nothing Latin to it at all.

 

[Andrea82]

Is there any news on Mazingue/Gaidajenko of Estonia? They haven’t competed yet this season and I don’t recall seeing them on any start lists either.

IIRC they appeared in Finlandia Trophy entry list at first and then withdrew a couple of weeks later.

 

[Belsornia]

IIRC they appeared in Finlandia Trophy entry list at first and then withdrew a couple of weeks later.

Whatever’s keeping them out of competition (injury?), hoping they’ll be back at Golden Spin or for the second half of the season.

 

[lauravvv]

I didn’t say they should only be doing typical ballroom music. Just saying the music they picked has nothing Latin to it at all.

I have watched quite many episodes of Dancing with the Stars (not just the US version) and also dancesport competitions, so I know that even professional latin and ballroom dancers often use music that seemingly has nothing to do with the dance they are doing, except the rhythm. So why wouldn't ice dancers be allowed the same?

 

[chantilly]

Agreed^ It’s all about the steps they are doing.
The music does NOT have to be Latin.

 

[muffinplus]

I have watched quite many episodes of Dancing with the Stars (not just the US version) and also dancesport competitions, so I know that even professional latin and ballroom dancers often use music that seemingly has nothing to do with the dance they are doing, except the rhythm. So why wouldn't ice dancers be allowed the same?

"The music must be selected in accordance with the designated rhythm(s) and/or theme(s), and with the specified tempo when applicable."

OK then. I am sure I wasn't the only who was a bit WTF over that program...Music doesn't matter? TBH that seems a bit... nonsensical... well to me anyways.

 

[Peepsquick]

Agreed^ It’s all about the steps they are doing.
The music does NOT have to be Latin.

But this season, in Ice Dance, we have neither the music nor the steps!

 

[Bigbird]

But this season, in Ice Dance, we have neither the music nor the steps!

Well its not as though V/M or W/P were coming back this season. So whom did we expect latin from Nikita? If S/D came back this season the latin swag would be really hot. But we have what we have.

 

[sap5]

Just saw Muramoto/Takahashi's FD, and it makes me irrationally angry. Why is Marina making them skate to this tired warhorse at the beginning of the quad? This is the time for something fresh and exciting! What a waste.

 

[Debbie S]

Just saw Muramoto/Takahashi's FD, and it makes me irrationally angry. Why is Marina making them skate to this tired warhorse at the beginning of the quad? This is the time for something fresh and exciting! What a waste.

I would have liked for KanaDai to have skated to something more original, but I don't hate POTO. I think it is actually a good vehicle for them.

 

[VGThuy]

Plus, it’s Marina. If Dai and Kana want to skate to something “original”, they’re going to have to do a Shibs and start coming up with their own themes (and music and outsource the original choreography before Marina edits it). Since Dai is still relatively new to ice dance, they’re probably choosing certain pieces for the FD with that in mind.

 

[clairecloutier]

I think Kana/Daisuke are doing a decent job with POTO, but yeah, it wouldn't have been my first choice for them. Neither of their programs this season are as much to my taste as last year's programs. P.S. There's nothing wrong with the current programs; they just aren't as interesting to me.

 

[VGThuy]

Dai himself also wasn’t above warhorses when he worked with Morosov. We just didn’t mind them so much back then because it was Dai and he could sell almost anything back then.

 

[On My Own]

Dai himself also wasn’t above warhorses when he worked with Morosov. We just didn’t mind them so much back then because it was Dai and he could sell almost anything back then.

OK, but just as a reminder Moulin Rouge! wasn't a warhorse back then! So don't count it!

Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 35 is also technically not a warhorse The rest you can keep.

 

[sap5]

I would have liked for KanaDai to have skated to something more original, but I don't hate POTO. I think it is actually a good vehicle for them.

Why do you think it's a good vehicle for them?