RPDR Season 13

I could do without the inner saboteur nonsense that's popped up the last few seasons.
She's always had that MO, though. Some queens come to the competition without any family or life baggage, have a plan, and just want to get through it and rock it, because why shouldn't they be confident? But we are treated to the build up of so much drama, the constant planned 'let's have a deep discussion during makeup time prior to the runway', 'let's pull out a sob story on the runway when things don't go well because it might save me', producer twists or Rupaul running from one side of the room to the other to spill some gossip, and then let it all blow up only so she can save the day and bring everyone together.

In the first season, it was a final 3 or final 4 podcast/radio interview in which Ru tried to pull out all kinds of inner feelings, and it stayed that kind of method for a while. I totally get that the LGBTQ community as a whole has generally had some kind of rough period in their upbringing or even throughout their coming to terms with who they are as young adults, but IMO not everyone has to have a sob story narrative nor do actions need to be taken to try to draw emotions out that didn't necessarily need to be there. But it's not only RPDR -- look at The Voice and American Idol. Almost every contestant featured has some long dramatic history to get the audience emotionally involved.
 
She's always had that MO, though. Some queens come to the competition without any family or life baggage, have a plan, and just want to get through it and rock it, because why shouldn't they be confident? But we are treated to the build up of so much drama, the constant planned 'let's have a deep discussion during makeup time prior to the runway', 'let's pull out a sob story on the runway when things don't go well because it might save me', producer twists or Rupaul running from one side of the room to the other to spill some gossip, and then let it all blow up only so she can save the day and bring everyone together.

In the first season, it was a final 3 or final 4 podcast/radio interview in which Ru tried to pull out all kinds of inner feelings, and it stayed that kind of method for a while. I totally get that the LGBTQ community as a whole has generally had some kind of rough period in their upbringing or even throughout their coming to terms with who they are as young adults, but IMO not everyone has to have a sob story narrative nor do actions need to be taken to try to draw emotions out that didn't necessarily need to be there. But it's not only RPDR -- look at The Voice and American Idol. Almost every contestant featured has some long dramatic history to get the audience emotionally involved.
Not everyone has a sob story, but I actually really love when they share a little bit about who they are. Some are lucky to have amazing family members who are very supportive of them.
 
The more I think about it, the more it seems a generational thing with Ru’s experience getting farther and farther from that of the contestants. When Ru started, being gay was universally hard and being a drag queen was harder, even without factoring for skin color. Everyone had to have a pretty compelling story. Now, if kids are lucky, they might grow up in an area where sexual preference is just that and drag is fairly mainstream. Totally different life experience.
 
Reddit and the fans are going so hard on Kandy that World of Wonder has been posting social media messages like, "If you can't love our queens, STFU" and "kindness is cool" -- multiple messages since the show aired. Of course, fans are calling out their hypocrisy.

Kandy is loud and stirs the pot. She's going to get a lot of air time for that reason alone, especially since the rest (outside Tina and Tamisha) are relatively quiet. I do find the alliance between her, Tina and Gottmik odd, because each seems super confident in their own way and you'd think they'd be competitive with each other.

There have been excellent seasons/finales where the top 4 were finalists: Season 6 (Bianca, Adore, Courtney), 8 (Bob, Kim and Naomi), and even last season (Jaida, Gigi, Crystal).

It does feel like they're setting up Kandy for a redemption arc or they're going to keep her for a long time like Silky Nutmeg Ganache. The biggest issue fans have outside her attitude her runways have been among the worst/sloppiest.

Production has the dilemma of crafting 90+30 minute episodes to keep the plot moving. There are many COVID restrictions in place so challenges that have been more entertaining in the past (roast challenges with live audiences, mentor challenges with A-list guests, big dance numbers with backup dancers) need to be scaled back.

The show is in a dilemma as it's now in what I call "Emmy bait/cash cow" mode but lacking some of the razzle dazzle mentioned above. A scandal (like the Sherry Pie one last season) or reports of heavy bullying are taken VERY seriously because they can derail that.
 
Completely unrelated, Joey Jay was also a figure skater. For some reason, the show doesn't want his real name out there so I'm going not to name him, but he competed.
 
Completely unrelated, Joey Jay was also a figure skater. For some reason, the show doesn't want his real name out there so I'm going not to name him, but he competed.
There are plenty of articles about him, even talking about having been a skater, that share his real name.

Reddit and the fans are going so hard on Kandy that World of Wonder has been posting social media messages like, "If you can't love our queens, STFU" and "kindness is cool" -- multiple messages since the show aired. Of course, fans are calling out their hypocrisy.

The show is in a dilemma as it's now in what I call "Emmy bait/cash cow" mode but lacking some of the razzle dazzle mentioned above. A scandal (like the Sherry Pie one last season) or reports of heavy bullying are taken VERY seriously because they can derail that.
But that's just it - WOW and no doubt Rupaul to some extent are building up these opinions by airing what they choose to air. Does it need to be all the best and most positive of everyone? No. Is it their fault that fandom and social media and the belief that everyone is so important behind their mysterious user names these days makes people act so extra? No. But they were aware of this kind of behavior for many seasons now, they contribute to it by doing the most with production, and then they are telling everyone to cool down? More and more, it seems like people get the hypocrisy.

I have no doubt that Kandy likely makes it to the end, and I really, really think that we might be seeing so much of the Tamisha feud because she may be the one to send her packing - which would surely melt down the internet.
 
The hypocrisy of WOW is that it has taken 13 seasons for them to finally speak up about the bullying of fans. This has been going on for years. Jeremi (aka Phi Phi O’Hara) and Nina Bonina Brown called them out on social media for it. Granted, there is a certain amount of confidence that is required to be a drag queen, especially on a reality show. But WOW has done very little to foster sportsmanship, humility, or just genuine human kindness. The way this season was set up, there are queens in the “winner’s circle “ who genuinely believe that they are better than the others.

As far as Kandy goes, all of the flaws that she sees in others are the same ones she has. And honestly, I would have had her in the bottom this week over any of them except La La Ri. She’s managed to get by only because someone else’s work was less bad than her. Except for the first lip sync, I’m not seeing any greatness in her. Her losing her temper and threatening to hit folks after someone told her what she thought about her, after she’s been doing that same thing for weeks, totally turned me off of Kandy. I liked her until she went off on Aja. I guess she doesn’t known that promoters and club owners watch the show. It to Phi Phi years to get bookings after Season 4 aired. She talked about it. Not very shrewd of Kandy.
 
Lala Ri presented one of the worst costumes ever, not even Jiggly Caliente Rupocalipse was that bad!

I don't like that lately the 'comedy' tone in the lipsync is what has been the decisive factor for one to shantay and the other to sashay and not even when the drag queen is left semi nude and giving bare chest

Tamisha vs Kandy is giving the life the show needs but in the end is giving the benefit to Tamisha and all the negativity to Kandy, yes she is loud and over-condifent, delusional most of the times, but she could really save many of her thoughts to her knowing that happened in past seasons; it's like if she never watched the show and how the program needs a villain.

Ok Kandy that might help you staying long enough in the show but once it ends guess what? the toxicity, hate and all the bad things that have started to come for her will stay way beyond the show, look at other drags who ended up quiting drag, so? does it worth it to have media exposure based on negativity and villain edit?

If somebody like Tamisha with what Kandy called (as shade-irony) 500 years in drag is saying something to you, you should be wise enough to hear and learn. How many like Kandy Tamisha have seen during her career come, conquer for a bit and disappear?
 
Ok Kandy that might help you staying long enough in the show but once it ends guess what? the toxicity, hate and all the bad things that have started to come for her will stay way beyond the show, look at other drags who ended up quiting drag, so? does it worth it to have media exposure based on negativity and villain edit?

If somebody like Tamisha with what Kandy called (as shade-irony) 500 years in drag is saying something to you, you should be wise enough to hear and learn. How many like Kandy Tamisha have seen during her career come, conquer for a bit and disappear?
I have no doubt that there are queens who have grown up on this show and felt the extra bit of attitude is going to work to their advantage - think Bianca Del Rio. The drag culture in general is very bitchy and back-and-forth with 'I'm better than you attitudes' that spill into constant social media wars even at the most basic hometown levels. After all, 95%+ of the queens are really gay men that have a feeling of empowerment by being in drag and playing a different character.

Of course they all think in their minds that their sassiness and bluntness are going to be universally loved because they have no idea how the show will be edited or how everything will play out. I'm sure Kandy thought that she was going to be 'that bitch' that everyone loved for telling it how it is even though, like you said, she's had countless other examples that skew the much opposite direction in terms of being a favorite.
 
I have no doubt that Kandy likely makes it to the end, and I really, really think that we might be seeing so much of the Tamisha feud because she may be the one to send her packing - which would surely melt down the internet.
Welp, that happened a lot sooner than I expected. And they want fans to calm down now?
 
Well the Kandy vs Tamisha saga lasted too little.

In the end we understood why Tamisha was always this kind of in her head and thinking about something distracting her, not as an excuse but maybe she rushed her participation? she should have waited 1-2 years or so and with 'rona situation this was better, to wait, heal completely and give the 100% she is capable of. For me it's kind of bittersweet because you can see all the goods and experience with her but her time on this season always lacked some spark, that extra, that 110% that you can understand why was missing.

Very eager to look her at some All Stars, she deserves. Imagine a Kandy-Tamisha 2.0 in AS7 or 8???

I'm tired with Tina McBurner, same colors, same 'style' I don't get why they praised her and put in the HIGH today. Denali should have been High, not safe.

Elliott incredible with the dancing skills but just meh with her runway. Olivia Lux surely deserved the win today, her smile its to die for!

Gottmik... didn't like her approach in the runway. Same with Uttica Queen who I fear could be next to sashay away.

And Kandy got the lesson she needed to calm down and could bring her back to earth.
 
Well the Kandy vs Tamisha saga lasted too little.

In the end we understood why Tamisha was always this kind of in her head and thinking about something distracting her, not as an excuse but maybe she rushed her participation? she should have waited 1-2 years or so and with 'rona situation this was better, to wait, heal completely and give the 100% she is capable of. For me it's kind of bittersweet because you can see all the goods and experience with her but her time on this season always lacked some spark, that extra, that 110% that you can understand why was missing.

Very eager to look her at some All Stars, she deserves. Imagine a Kandy-Tamisha 2.0 in AS7 or 8???

I'm tired with Tina McBurner, same colors, same 'style' I don't get why they praised her and put in the HIGH today. Denali should have been High, not safe.

Elliott incredible with the dancing skills but just meh with her runway. Olivia Lux surely deserved the win today, her smile its to die for!

Gottmik... didn't like her approach in the runway. Same with Uttica Queen who I fear could be next to sashay away.

And Kandy got the lesson she needed to calm down and could bring her back to earth.

I was surprised by Gottmik! It would have been funny if she had wore a full leotard, but to come out practically nude? Utica is turning into a caricature, definitely. Very over the top, I can't wait to see her on "Snatched". Tina hasn't grown at all, but wow, that disco number! I don't really have an early favorite yet, none of them quite stand out from the pack for me. Olivia deserved that win!
 
Kandy Muse has week after week has had one of the worse, if not the worse runways and she is still there. I guess They value obnoxious Behaviour
Even prior to Silky, WoW has made sure its most obnoxious/controversial/shady queens stay front and center. Snatch Game seems to be the formula’s cutoff point. Fortunately for my sanity, contestants with little more than shade on their side seem to leave in 8th to 5th place, leaving the audience with a palatable final 4. I hope the same is true this time.
 
This week’s episode was so over-produced that I was really disgusted by the outcome. There are so many things that I didn’t like I don’t think I can list them all. But the biggest one was that Utica wasn’t in the bottom with Kandy. Even she was shocked that she wasn’t in the bottom. Utica’s runway was worse and so was her performance in the challenge. Personally, I think that manipulated Tamisha and Kandy to be in the bottom together.

Side note about Kandy....did anyone else notice that Kandy’s runway dress was an almost identical dupe to one Aja wore in the Lady Gaga tribute runway?

I‘m over Gotmik. How many times have we heard the judges say fir the girls to stop relying on their bodies? But they keep giving her a pass. Just saying.

How did Tina end up in the top? Aren’t they tired of the Ronald McDonald ketchup and mustard looks yet? Red, orange, and yellow all mean caution and stop. I’m begging her to stop. Please!

The newly dubbed mean girls aren’t on the level of Rolaskatox, or even the Heathers from season 3. They don’t have near the talent. I didn’t care for them personally, either, but I could at least respect their drag. These girls leave me wanting.

I can’t wait for Tamisha to get a shot at AS after getting to heal completely. Just knowing the extent of her physical limitations makes me respect her even more. I know that it was hard on her. It’s a tough competition when you have every thing in your favor. Competing under her limitations during a pandemic is a lot. The producers know that. Catering to some of these other clowns instead of the one who should have been shown some grace pissed me off.

Also, for those who don’t know, Kandy made the comments to Elliott because of some racist microaggressions that apparently occurred. The producers didn’t show us any of that, again, manipulating things. She has deleted her social media, from my understanding, and she is being referred to “Elliott with 3 K’s.” The reunion is going to be a sh*t show. I’m reserving judgment until I see it. I wonder if will be addressed.

Loved Olivia. She deserved the win. I would have Denali in the top over Tina. After last week, I quit caring about who wins. But I’m about a week away from not watching any more.
 
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Well... THAT was interesting. Can someone please tell me how Kandy was funny or how she played well with Ross? Am I missing something? I thought she was flatter than flat. Maybe not ElioTT flat, but flat. And the faux fur over the body suit??? Didn’t they rip Vanjie a new one every time she dressed up a body suit? Sorry, I’m really over her.
 
I didn’t think Kandy was bad at all in the challenge and thought she looked good enough this week that she was not in any danger.

Elliott continues to be the surprise for me. From being so supportive of Denali during her own lip sync, to constantly being the odd one out and not having the overall experience she wanted, to this strong lip sync, I’m rooting for her although I’m not sure how much longer she can hold up. The cast really is strong this year!

I think Symone is probably a front-runner, and probably Gottmik as well. Olivia seems destined for the 5th or 6th place prize as a fave/fan-fave.
 
I didn’t think Kandy was bad at all in the challenge and thought she looked good enough this week that she was not in any danger.

Elliott continues to be the surprise for me. From being so supportive of Denali during her own lip sync, to constantly being the odd one out and not having the overall experience she wanted, to this strong lip sync, I’m rooting for her although I’m not sure how much longer she can hold up. The cast really is strong this year!

I think Symone is probably a front-runner, and probably Gottmik as well. Olivia seems destined for the 5th or 6th place prize as a fave/fan-fave.
Elliott is starting to surprise me too! Olivia is blowing me out of the water, I wasn't sure if she could pull it off but wow!!
 
I did not like the improv Bossie Rossie challenge, somehow these challenges are underwhelming when we look back to past seasons even if you compare with the current UK Version that is having a much much better challenges and runways overall. I'm liking UK more than US S13

Denali & Rose deserved better, not just be safe (Again) they are tempting the territory of Jan (Season 12)

Gottmik is getting Gottmeh, sorry I recognize her makeup work but what else? at least she showed in the Reading challenge that there is someting more.

Olivia won for a second week in a row though I'm a bit confused, based on the runway she gave me Kandy Muse vibes with the ponytail or whatever that is called. She has a lovely personality and smile but don't think this week she was THAT good.

Same with Kandy, though I get it, after last week attrocious looks anything safe this week would make her look better. She changed a bit her attitude and that's nice.

The Tina-Elliott conversation and them coming to peace showing their human and vulnerable side was a good thing. Nice to see Tina is not 'that' villain, so that helps her cause against the fandom. Still I need more from her looks, McDonalds resemblence still bugs me.

Symone: stop relying on that body girl! though she oozes confidence, you can't deny she has qualities but I want to see her more in drag, 'traditional' one? don't know how to explain it, but every week is legs, legs, semi naked, well she must step up because Olivia is taking momentum though I see Symone in top 4 but not Miss Lux.

Elliott deserved the win in the lipsync, Lala should have gone 2 episodes ago

Now I'm craving a Denali vs Elliott lipsync!!
 
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I think Denali should have won the night. Olivia was cute but nothing special, and I wasn't feeling her acting assignment the way others were.

Something about Tina just turns me off. Can't stand Kandy.
 
I think Denali should have won the night. Olivia was cute but nothing special, and I wasn't feeling her acting assignment the way others were.

Something about Tina just turns me off. Can't stand Kandy.
Tina looks like someone you don't want to trust too much.
 
Watching both US and UK versions at the moment here in Australia (we have it on Stan).

I am enjoying both. I do think the UK challenge doing RuRuVision was more enjoyable than Bossy Rossy.
 
I cannot take much more of Kandy. Or Tina. Or Gottmik. There is one star left this season-- Symone. Everyone else is fodder for me.

In terms of UK Season 2, Bimini Bon-Boulash has stepped it up over the break. I can see her challenging Lawrence Cheney now.
 

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