From Russia with Love [#35]: Winter 2019

zebraswan said:
I guess you never spent much time in Sedona, AZ, or even Tucson...tons of new age healer types into crystals and whatnot. One of these "spiritual advisors" was convicted of negligent homicide after 3 people died in a sweat lodge at his retreat.

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And while much of Russia might be underdeveloped, it is also not a "third world country." You can hear similar conversations to the one you described if you spend time in the American Bible Belt, for sure.
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Actually Tucson is where I lived for two years. Took a bus to work every day, never encountered a healer :) Anyway, I regret I took the subject this far. My opinion about Russia is not based on the one conversation I mentioned, but this is not the right place to continue this discussion. All I wanted to say is that Adelina paying money to a fortune teller would be considered a pretty common behavior in Russia, not something that indicates mental health issues.
 
dinakt said:
Somebody I know well (in the US), highly educated and rational, regularly goes to "retreats" on the weekends to communicate with her dead child.
Passing through Sedona, we were bombarded by advertising for various psychics. I particularly remember "Archangel Michael" who promised to read my aura and suggest my future path.

I can only think that you have not stayed up nights in the US watching late-night cable TV. That's when the ads happen.
I also know personally Italians and Bulgarians who are superstitious. And educated. So it's everywhere... maybe a bit more in Russia but far from exclusively.
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I was just in Sedona a week ago. What a mistake was made when that gorgeous area was not made a national park; instead, the town is full of touristy trash and yes, a bunch of New Age hooey.

Israel is full of superstitious religious Jews who use amulets and other junk to protect themselves from the evil eye (most are not from Russia, their families came from the Middle East.)

Stevie Wonder wrote this, primarily for his own African-American community, almost 50 years ago:

When you believe in things
That you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way

And Mary Chapin Carpenter wrote this about televangelists almost 30 years ago:

I sat alone in the dark one night
Tuning in by remote
I found a preacher who spoke of the light
But there was brimstone in his throat
He'd show me the way according to him
In return for my personal check
I flipped my channel back to CNN
And I lit another cigarette
I take my chances
Yes, forgiveness doesn't come with a debt
I take my chances
I take my chances ev'ry chance I get
 
hanca said:
Of course you don’t put your shoes on the table. If you walk in those shoes outside, God knows what you have walked through! Some dog s**t and other interesting things... so maybe that will explain why you would die. One never knows what you can catch. The same way like you would never want to lick the pavement and the road.
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New shoes only. LOL. Good thing I didn't think barn gunk from my boots was not a seasoning! That would have bad.
 
Jeschke said:
I can't see a really good attempt here imho but good for her pushing herself and giving a fight!
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Neither can Trankov.. :D (he and Sofia are in "an IG discourse" now.)
  • He posts on her IG account - " << Yes, girl, u can "
  • She replies: "I said from the beginning, it is step by step (in-works)"
  • He replies: and that is why i said "yes U can"..

It's not the quads that will kill figure skating...... it's "social media, 2 fingers and a gadget".. :2faced:
 
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Tinami Amori said:
Oh no she is not...... embarrassed.... :rofl:
Adelina is a drama queen, does not mind speaking to the press about EVERY event in her life, falling in love, falling out of love, boy-friend issues, and other sensations.

There have been at least 5 boyfriend dramas since 2016, that Adelina shared with the world... :D
- In 2016 she started dating a young TV host, Alexandre Molochko.
- then he cheated on her and it was a big drama, and Adel was posting "betrayed" stories on IG.. and gave interviews ...
- then in 2017 she hooked up with a son of a famous pop singer Valeria, Artemii Shulgin...
- then the previous one, Molochko, got dumped by his girlfriend and tried to get back with Adelina.. Adelina tried to sort it out between Molochko and Shulgin, and Shulgin left her for another girl, whom he knew from school and she was in his social league and rank, they are now married.
- then in 2018 Adel got into footballers and hockey players.... and started an affair with Vladimir Tkachev, AkBars hockey team in Kazan. She was flying there very often, more than he was flying to Moscow to see her. That affair went sour, he cheated and left her. She was giving interviews left and right how she is on a verge of a nervous break down, blaming the guy..
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Сотникова рассказала, что находится на грани срыва

Олимпийская чемпионка при этом верит, что ей удастся преодолеть все проблемы
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Also, Adelina was posting "betrayal stories" on IG, and that's when she got the swamie's help, who promised to "entice him back to her with magic".
- that did not work, and the next one is..... a footballer, from "Lokomotiv Moscow Club".. Dmitry Barinov..
... and Adel is giving interviews "she is in love"... :lol:

On her IG Adel posted "my mother is my best friend, but others often betray, i trust very few people". (but she keeps doing it.... :lol:).

In 2018 a guy, who was supposedly Adelina's fan and was giving her a lot of attention, one day burgled her beauty salon business. He walked in while customers were there, sprayed gas into customers' eyes, and grabbed the expensive cosmetic products off the shelves into a bag.. Police came, etc. It made the eve. news, on TV and in print (like TASS..... :lol:)
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Неизвестный ограбил салон красоты олимпийской чемпионки Аделины Сотниковой в Москве

Злоумышленник распылил газ из баллончика и похитил часть косметики
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Назойливый ухажер ограбил салон красоты фигуристки Аделины Сотниковой - Москва 24

Подписывайтесь на наш канал в YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/infomoscow24?sub_confirmation=1 Злоумышленник распылил газ из баллончика и забрал с полок...
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For the record.... she found them and contacted them first. in my experience, too many russian women believe in this stuff..

If one googles in russian "how to make your husband come back to you" or "make your lover marry you" or "how to scare away women who are after your man", "how to make him chose your and leave his mistress" you will get:
  • swami services
  • card reading services
  • ancient methods of "enticement" services
  • prayer you can say or we can say for you services
  • magic you can try yourself
  • herbs and flowers you can put in his food/drink
  • magic methods and words.
  • social and psychological methods/tricks..
Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) posts "prayers to make your husband come back" on youtube...
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Какие молитвы вернут мужа в семью. Священник Игорь Сильченков

Ответы священника на вопросы - http://www.propovedi.su/voprosy-i-otvety Проповеди священника Игоря Сильченкова, настоятеля храма Покрова Пресвятой Богородицы...
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ROC - What to do if your husband cheats with another..
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Как быть, если муж изменяет? (прот. Владимир Головин, г. Болгар)

Фрагмент ответов на вопросы от 16.01.2016 г. Полностью видео можно посмотреть здесь: http://vladimir-golovin.ru/otvety-16-01-2016.html или здесь: http://www....
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(Free) Video with instructions for a ritual "how to make your husband come home (away from mistress)"
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Как вернуть супруга домой? Ритуал по возврату супруга домой

Гости моего канала Будьте добры пожалуйста подпишитесь на мой канал нажмите красную кнопочку под видео со словом подписаться. Молитва: Ла ахамта рафзаим (имя...
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(Free) Video with instructions "how to make him not-able with another woman".
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Заморозить что бы не был с другой. Закрыть парню его орган

измена,отношения,любовь,муж изменяет,приворот,измена мужа,муж изменил,муж,семья,мужская измена,психология,психология мужчин,измены,заговор от измен,мужчина и...
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etc...... :D
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Wow, you didn’t even try to hide your judgmental attitude.
Adelina is a famous and pretty young woman - there’s nothing unusual about her dating a handful of men over the course of several years. She does seem to have an expressive, emotional personality and shares a lot on social media, but that doesn’t make her a drama queen - not in comparison to the lovely forum poster who decided to find a dozen links about witchcraft just to convince us that every soul in Russia still believes in magic.
Also, I personally don’t think it’s right to judge a woman for how many men she chooses to date. Some men date a new woman every month but get little backlash for it. It’s 2020 - insulting a woman for being (in your opinion) “promiscuous” is something we should’ve left behind a century ago.

Perky Shae Lynn said:
I travel to Russia occasionally for work, and my Russian co-workers are not very different than anyone in Toronto for example. It all depends on the person's education, environment, and the host of other factors. I wouldn't speak of a "majority" anywhere, not in Russia, not in Canada, not in the U.S. There are cultural trends and differences; but it's impossible to paint a whole country with the same brush. Internet changed everything, people watch YouTube everywhere, same TV shows, etc. - the "borders" are greatly diminished.

p.s. It's a bad idea to take anything @Tinami Amori posts as an indication of how Russians think, or what they believe.
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This. In general, I’ve heard some people in Russia are superstitious, but I know some people in the USA are superstitious too. I don’t think broad generalizations about a particular race can ever be accurate. Plus with the rise of social media, cultures are becoming more and more diffused.
 
PRlady said:
I was just in Sedona a week ago. What a mistake was made when that gorgeous area was not made a national park; instead, the town is full of touristy trash and yes, a bunch of New Age hooey.
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I love Sedona! We have been several times and stay in a neat motel with swimming pool/hottub/barbeque just a few miles out of town (agree that it's full of touristy trash). We go for hikes and drives and spend very little time in the town proper, other than to get groceries and such.

No way anyone is ever going to get me to take on of those pink tours to see the sites of healing energy or the vortexes (or whatever).
 
Interview with Lisa Tuktamysheva on learning the quad in ten days, the development of women's skating and other things.

English version:
www.ifsmagazine.com

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva: A Victorious Defeat – International Figure Skating

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva talks quads, triple Axels, the current state of ladies skating and why nationals was a “victorious defeat” for her personally.
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Russian version:
www.fsrussia.ru

Елизавета Туктамышева: «Если хочешь быть в тренде, быть в лидерах фигурного катания, то должен развиваться и идти на четверные прыжки»

17 декабря Елизавета Туктамышева отметила 23-летие, а через 10 дней на чемпионате России в Красноярске впервые замахнулась на четверной тулуп. Перед началом сезона Лиза усложнила обе программы. В
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Mad for Skating said:
Wow, you didn’t even try to hide your judgmental attitude.
Adelina is a famous and pretty young woman - there’s nothing unusual about her dating a handful of men over the course of several years. She does seem to have an expressive, emotional personality and shares a lot on social media, but that doesn’t make her a drama queen - not in comparison to the lovely forum poster who decided to find a dozen links about witchcraft just to convince us that every soul in Russia still believes in magic.
Also, I personally don’t think it’s right to judge a woman for how many men she chooses to date. Some men date a new woman every month but get little backlash for it. It’s 2020 - insulting a woman for being (in your opinion) “promiscuous” is something we should’ve left behind a century ago.



This. In general, I’ve heard some people in Russia are superstitious, but I know some people in the USA are superstitious too. I don’t think broad generalizations about a particular race can ever be accurate. Plus with the rise of social media, cultures are becoming more and more diffused.
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And you are judgment free? Glad that is cleared up.
 
Tinami Amori said:
Anastasia Gulyakova - 3A on ice (rink practice with Mishin)

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Well, she has already posted link to a pretty decent 3A a few years ago and it still isn’t in her program.
 
babayaga said:
All I wanted to say is that Adelina paying money to a fortune teller would be considered a pretty common behavior in Russia, not something that indicates mental health issues.
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I’ve gone to a psychic before (just to say that lol). It was all in good fun. Cost $100 for the whole tarot and hand reading. But $100 is a far cry from 34K. Imagine if she spent that money on a legitimate therapist which sounded like was what she needed.
 
Alexandra Ilina summarizes here in a short article (Long-Program.com) an interview recently published in Russia.

It is an interview of a Russian newspaper (rsport.ria.ru) with the prominent Armenian top coach and former figure skater Rafael Harutjunjan. An excerpt from the German summary:

Harutjunjan does not want girls in the age of children to oust figure skaters like Alina Zagitova from competitions. He can't understand that - especially today, when she runs so beautifully - she is virtually asked to give up (ultimately without a chance for medal places). More and more younger girls are moving up and displacing the adult runners. "I want to see the adult Kostornaya, I don't want her to be displaced by young girls". Because after a short time this younger girl will be replaced by a younger girl and then we will not see any adult runners. It would be interesting to follow the development of the younger ones, but in a fixed age group. There must be a different approach already during training. "In the women's competitions I want to see runners like Tuktamysheva," said the coach, mentioning her enormous achievement that she had learned the quadruple Toeloop at her age.

The link and the headline of the remarkably detailed interview in the Russian newspaper:
"Harutyunyan: It's a shame that a girl beats beautiful Zagitova out of the national team"

Harutjunjan's concluding remark:
"But people are not mature enough to understand the seriousness of this problem. I think one day they will understand. I'm sure you'll live to see it."
 
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The weird thing about this debate to me is that Shcherbakova and Kostornaya are both in my opinion more artistic than Zagitova, certainly not less artistic than Medvedeva (who I love) and realistically, probably two of the most artistic skaters that we've seen in the sport ever. And I like Trusova's style as a contrast, although it's not conventionally "artistic" and does have some awkward moments. The glut of incredibly gifted Russian skaters is sort of an unprecedented situation in the sport, I don't know that we have ever seen anything quite like this before. I don't think anyone knows how to deal with it, even the Russian Federation.
 
I am getting tired of hearing from Raf. Nobody has pushed Alina out or forced her to stop. She wanted a break, it's completely normal after everything she has done. Almost all skaters in her position would have taken a break. The point of competing is not just to enter competitions that you know you can win...otherwise there would be almost nobody left. Either she will decide that she misses competing, and figure out ways she can improve technically, or she will move on because she's over it. That's not the fault of the younger competitors.

I definitely wouldn't want to watch a depleted senior field just because the younger skaters became too good. Just leave things the way they are.
 
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