Its far far worse in ice dance. They come close to dominating the majority of podiums in every event as juniors only to become total non-factors as seniors. At least a number of the men who do great as juniors can contend as seniors. They only don't cause constantly shoot themselves in the foot. In ice dance they're DOA
S&K are silver medal contenders in ice dance.
S&B are top 5 contenders (and a long sot for bronze)
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