U.S. Pairs 2017 - News & Updates, Part VII

[Sylvia]

FWIW, I saw Chris Knierim land 2 triple Salchows at the end of the final practice before the FS in Lake Placid (they looked "clean" to me ).

Pairs Scoretracker updated after Skate America: https://unseenskaters.wordpress.com/scoretracker/current-pairs-scores/

 

[Cleo1782]

FWIW, I saw Chris Knierim land 2 triple Salchows at the end of the final practice before the FS in Lake Placid (they looked "clean" to me ).

Pairs Scoretracker updated after Skate America: https://unseenskaters.wordpress.com/scoretracker/current-pairs-scores/

Would you give it positive GOE? Because then we have to debate clean

 

[eurodance2001]

If only this can appear from now on in competition..

https://instagram.com/p/BcFq7IAhFTk/

 

[LilJen]

This is false. Junior pairs are not allowed to do triples in the short program. The years alternate like this: double loop or double axel, double flip or double axel, and double lutz. On the year of required double lutz, they are not allowed to do a double axel. No triple jumps are allowed in junior short programs ever.

Oh, okay. I guess I must have been confusing it with the throw jumps. Those are also a specific takeoff each year, right? But it can be either a double or a triple?

 

[Cleo1782]

Oh, okay. I guess I must have been confusing it with the throw jumps. Those are also a specific takeoff each year, right? But it can be either a double or a triple?

Juniors can do any throw triple they want in the long, but in the short they are required to do a double or triple loop throw this year. I believe it sometimes alternates with a sal, but I could be wrong.

 

[oleada]

Juniors can do any throw triple they want in the long, but in the short they are required to do a double or triple loop throw this year. I believe it sometimes alternates with a sal, but I could be wrong.

Salchow, Loop and Toe Loop IIRC

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

If only this can appear from now on in competition..

https://instagram.com/p/BcFq7IAhFTk/

Oh Thank Goodness. You @Sylvia and @clairecloutier have me all giddy!

Id appreciate a phone call tho next time with such news.

 

[eurodance2001]

Oh Thank Goodness. You @Sylvia and @clairecloutier have me all giddy!

Id appreciate a phone call tho next time with such news.

You got it; you’re on speed dial now.. anytime a nice looking American pair guy lands a triple with flow and a nice landing position I’ll give you a call..

 

[olympic]

Actually, how easy he makes that look

ETA - soft knees means the possibility of better SBS spins, their other weak element?

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

^^^^ I know, and also Im like how can such change have occurred in 3 days.......

 

[kwanfan1818]

Actually, how easy he makes that look

Seriously. I though that was an easy double.

 

[TanithandBenFan]

I've seen a lot of our pairs skaters do nice triples on their own in practice. It's when they try to do them SBS and in competition that's the problem.

 

[AxelAnnie]

I've seen a lot of our pairs skaters do nice triples on their own in practice. It's when they try to do them SBS and in competition that's the problem.

I get that it is hard...........but I also think it has become a mind game. It can not be harder than many of the lifts that must be coordinated to the millisecond

 

[Sylvia]

Would you give it positive GOE? Because then we have to debate clean

Yes. The 3sals I saw Chris Knierim land in practice looked like the "effortless" one linked in his home rink clip posted above.

I've seen a lot of our pairs skaters do nice triples on their own in practice. It's when they try to do them SBS and in competition that's the problem.

Yes, of course. There usually is so much negativity in this thread about the U.S. pairs' sbs jumping woes that I just wanted to mention the actual triples that I saw Chris Knierim land in practice in Lake Placid. Landing the sbs triples in competition is as much, if not more, a mental challenge for many of our pair skaters, and Chris has stated he needs to "do a lot of reps" in order to increase his chances of success in competition. In the practices I saw, Stellato & Bartholomay both looked very solid on their sbs triples (aside from Deanna's flukey 3S fall in the FS) and Haven Denney appears to have improved her consistency on the 3S, too.

ETA:

This photo I took is dark but here was a cute moment with Deanna & Alexa during the autograph session on Sunday: https://twitter.com/SylviaUnseen/status/936279412579778560

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

^^^ When did these autograph sessions start? The last 2 SAs I was at I never saw this..

Also, are only US skaters doing autographs?

 

[TanithandBenFan]

^^^ When did these autograph sessions start? The last 2 SAs I was at I never saw this..

Also, are only US skaters doing autographs?

They've been held for at least a few years now. It's always only Team USA skaters.

 

[Sylvia]

USFS organized 2 team autograph sessions at Skate America this year but it's easy to miss them on the concourse. I happened to come across the men/pairs (1st photo) in the early afternoon on Sunday and I never saw the dance/ladies (2nd photo): https://www.instagram.com/p/BcIGb_zFpjU/?hl=en&taken-by=usfigureskating
The 3 pairs sat in the middle of the long table - shots from 2 angles:
https://twitter.com/USFigureSkating/status/934847184335450112/photo/2
https://twitter.com/USFigureSkating/status/934847184335450112/photo/3

According to USFS' Twitter timeline, the dance/ladies signed autographs in the late afternoon on Friday (day before they competed): https://twitter.com/USFigureSkating/status/934187824714342401

 

[Lanie]

^^^ When did these autograph sessions start? The last 2 SAs I was at I never saw this..

Also, are only US skaters doing autographs?

They did them at 2011 Skate America.

I got Ricky Dornbush's autograph for @Wyliefan, and my stepmom got Meryl and Charlie's (she was so excited).

 

[Wyliefan]

I still have that autograph. That was so sweet of you, @Lanie.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

They've been held for at least a few years now. It's always only Team USA skaters.

Wow..I had to go bumrush them all...... Julia Sebestyen, Angela MANY times, Alissa, Miki, Brian Joubert, Peter T, Tan, Ben..... I had to wear my track suit and sneaks so I could crush any little kids that got in front of me down the hallways..

But don't get me wrong I would bumrush the stands too..... ahhhh seems like yesterday... Josee Chouinard, Kevin VDP, Brooke Castile... I have NO shame....



But don't even get me started on "the Katarina Witt incident"

 

[TanithandBenFan]

Wow..I had to go bumrush them all...... Julia Sebestyen, Angela MANY times, Alissa, Miki, Brian Joubert, Peter T, Tan, Ben..... I had to wear my track suit and sneaks so I could crush any little kids that got in front of me down the hallways..

But don't get me wrong I would bumrush the stands too..... ahhhh seems like yesterday... Josee Chouinard, Kevin VDP, Brooke Castile... I have NO shame....



But don't even get me started on "the Katarina Witt incident"

At my first SA in 2004 I spotted Joubert all the way across the arena and took off like a crazy person to get a photo with him.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

At my first SA in 2004 I spotted Joubert all the way across the arena and took off like a crazy person to get a photo with him.

THAT was my first SA!!!!!! And where I got to crush all over Nikodinov

 

[Sylvia]

... Brooke Castile ...

At Skate America she looked fantastic (like she just stopped competing yesterday): https://twitter.com/BrookeCastile/status/934901227573448705

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

^^^ Agreed!!!!

 

[Sylvia]

Happy to see Tarah Kayne & Danny O'Shea back competing again! (Their last full competition was NHK Trophy just over a year ago). They reportedly scored 56.38 in their Golden Spin SP & are in 3rd place behind 2 RUS pairs - here's their "All I Ask of You" (choreo. by Massimo Scali): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXAxEjRRB9A

 

[olympic]

Happy to see Tarah Kayne & Danny O'Shea back competing again! (Their last full competition was NHK Trophy just over a year ago). They reportedly scored 56.38 in their Golden Spin SP & are in 3rd place behind 2 RUS pairs - here's their "All I Ask of You" (choreo. by Massimo Scali): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXAxEjRRB9A

I had a chance to watch it. It was a decent re-entry into competitive skating. She fell on the SBS 3S, but landed the throw triple jump. I think they got the 3 twist off as well

 

[haribobo]

I liked K/O's program, I think. I was actually having a seizure from the MTV music video like camera work, but their skating helped me through it. BTW, they got the elusive << call on the 3twist. But the Nationals callers don't seem to have that button so they probably won't need to worry too much.

http://sharp-jackson-2e11d8.bitballoon.com/Pairs_SP_Scores.pdf

 

[TanithandBenFan]

I don't think I've ever seen a Josh Groban/Emmy Rossum duet of All I Ask of You so they must've had that specially cut.

 

[pairskatingfan]

The underrotation error on the twist didn't seem too egregious, surprised they got called downgrade, they must be looking at the takeoff and landing of the twist together. Despite their mistakes it is a good program and good fit for them.

 

[shan]

I liked K/O's program, I think. I was actually having a seizure from the MTV music video like camera work, but their skating helped me through it. BTW, they got the elusive << call on the 3twist. But the Nationals callers don't seem to have that button so they probably won't need to worry too much.

http://sharp-jackson-2e11d8.bitballoon.com/Pairs_SP_Scores.pdf

Yeah the camera work made me crazy, just crazy. But I'm so glad to see Tarah and Danny competing again!