From Russia with love [#28]: Autumn to Winter 2017

hanca said:
So you admit that your original statement was illogical? :)
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The only mistake I admit to is not calling your comments “obtuse” the first time. Let me fix that:

- There is no equivalency between an observation that an actor/performer wearing a “jewish costume” or a “holocaust costume” looks strange when making a Sign of the Cross once “on stage”, and your idiotic interpretation that it means I am asking the performer to switch religions.

- And there is even less equivalency and more idiocy in your comment “does that mean one must become a prostitute if skating to Moulin Rouge”… besides the fact that there are no prostitutes in Moulin Rouge.. :D

Maofan7 said:
Yulia Lipnitskaya does not wish to return to figure skating and is preparing to go to university
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Eyyyyyes! :D "is preparing to go to university"
 
Tinami Amori said:
The only mistake I admit to is not calling your comments “obtuse” the first time. Let me fix that:

- There is no equivalency between an observation that an actor/performer wearing a “jewish costume” or a “holocaust costume” looks strange when making a Sign of the Cross once “on stage”, and your idiotic interpretation that it means I am asking the performer to switch religions.

- And there is even less equivalency and more idiocy in your comment “does that mean one must become a prostitute if skating to Moulin Rouge”… besides the fact that there are no prostitutes in Moulin Rouge.. :D
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Skaters are like actors. They perform and outside the program they are whatever they are. Just because they chose to skate to Jewish music, they don’t come home and start celebrating Jewish festivities. I would find it creepy if a Christian person was praying in a different religion only because they skate to a music from a different culture.
 
hanca said:
Skaters are like actors. They perform and outside the program they are whatever they are. Just because they chose to skate to Jewish music, they don’t come home and start celebrating Jewish festivities. I would find it creepy if a Christian person was praying in a different religion only because they skate to a music from a different culture.
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Are you really dumb, or passive aggressive?.... :D Out of what bodily cavity did you pull out a suggestion of "going home and celebrating jewish holidays" and "christian having to pray in a different religion"...;)
 
Tinami Amori said:
The only mistake I admit to is not calling your comments “obtuse” the first time. Let me fix that:

- There is no equivalency between an observation that an actor/performer wearing a “jewish costume” or a “holocaust costume” looks strange when making a Sign of the Cross once “on stage”, and your idiotic interpretation that it means I am asking the performer to switch religions.
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She is "on stage" when the music starts. Before the start of her program, she has every right to prepare for the skate the way she wants. And if she wants to make the Sign of the Cross to feel more comfortable, it's her decision. It's before the "act" begins, nobody has to watch it.
 
hanca said:
Something about the pot calling the kettle black comes to my mind.
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You're nuts..... :D but i forgive you. Read this.... at least there will be some logic to your comments: https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/s/schopenhauer/arthur/controversy/chapter3.html

Tinza said:
She is "on stage" when the music starts. Before the start of her program, she has every right to prepare for the skate the way she wants. And if she wants to make the Sign of the Cross to feel more comfortable, it's her decision. It's before the "act" begins, nobody has to watch it.
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Well, that is a consideration for sure. Yet a lot of skaters get into the act "as soon as they enter the ice" especially ice dancers. But it a matter of one's view.... true.
 
I must say I find it offensive, but I also find any other showing of a belief outside a church/synagogue/mosque offensive.
And yes, I am the kind of person who found the Aboriginal dance offensive and the Indian dance or pair routine by Olympic gold winners.
And I also am not ok with this season's music choices by Peter Liebers and Nicole Schott who are both doing "Schindler's List". At least she is Polish. But it shows some blindness to history and responsibility as a Getman citizen.
I am sure both chose it because they just like the very emotional music. Which is tasteless, in my opinoon, but I can also understand that they had a different education than me who is around 20 years older.
 
hanca said:
Well, yould you suggest the skaters change their beliefs and become Jewish only because they chose Jewish music to skate to? Where is it going to end? Should Ashley become a prostitute because she decided to skate to Moulin Rouge? Should everyone skate to the music from their own country so that they don’t offend anyone?
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Be glad it's just limited to countries and not galaxies! I would hate for a lady to skate like this, and some critic call her a Patok! http://oi66.tinypic.com/209p0cx.jpg
 
Opinion re: JGP/Russian ladies.
Samodurova got 1st place in Zagreb. No 2nd event assigned yet.

In order for her to get 2nd event, one of the two girls who have not yet skated and are assigned 1 event each of the remaining 2 events must be cancelled in favor of Samodurova.

Which of the 2 remaining girls do you think is stronger and should keep her spot. Both have very different styles, but good technically.

Alena Kostornaya – for Gdansk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNpyjicfljE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNZoG-bmRM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVlFcippwk

Victoria Vasilyeva – for Bolzano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeqTxfAYiB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKmUuab6Dw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdyilWsIkQI
 
sus2850 said:
I must say I find it offensive, but I also find any other showing of a belief outside a church/synagogue/mosque offensive.
And yes, I am the kind of person who found the Aboriginal dance offensive and the Indian dance or pair routine by Olympic gold winners.
And I also am not ok with this season's music choices by Peter Liebers and Nicole Schott who are both doing "Schindler's List". At least she is Polish. But it shows some blindness to history and responsibility as a Getman citizen.
I am sure both chose it because they just like the very emotional music. Which is tasteless, in my opinoon, but I can also understand that they had a different education than me who is around 20 years older.
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It sounds like you want the skaters to be tied down to wherever they live and whatever they practice- religious or non- religious. It's your opinion and choice but I also see some ignorance. The Indian dances you mentioned had nothing to do with religion or beliefs. They were just dances. Next, will you be offended because a non-Russian skated to The Nutcracker or Sleeping beauty? What's wrong with a German skating to Schindler list? Are you suggesting that every German - even today- thinks like Hitler? That is unfair.

The world does not need more division today. It needs more understanding of those who are different from us, and more cultural exchange. Skating and many arts can close the gaps. JMO.
 
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Sometimes this thread gets a little :slinkaway

But, then there is this:
AYS said:
Plushenko has become one of my favorite instagram follows because of his many charming videos of him and his son, learning skating, dance, and all kinds of other things. He really is adorable and they are adorable together.
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:)
 
sus2850 said:
I must say I find it offensive, but I also find any other showing of a belief outside a church/synagogue/mosque offensive.
And yes, I am the kind of person who found the Aboriginal dance offensive and the Indian dance or pair routine by Olympic gold winners.
And I also am not ok with this season's music choices by Peter Liebers and Nicole Schott who are both doing "Schindler's List". At least she is Polish. But it shows some blindness to history and responsibility as a Getman citizen.
I am sure both chose it because they just like the very emotional music. Which is tasteless, in my opinoon, but I can also understand that they had a different education than me who is around 20 years older.
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Hava Naglia is just a folk song, like Kalinka or Arirang, no? I never knew it was supposed to be religious.
 
Anna Yanovskaya hopes to compete at the 2022 Olympics

She now performs with Ádám Lukács and will be performing for Hungary after acquiring citizenship last month

"Yes, we did not get to the Olympic Games in Korea, but it does not change anything for us. There are a lot of important competitions ahead. We hope we will go to the next Olympic Games in 2022. With Hungarian citizenship, I began to live a bit easier in terms of visas, very happy about it "- said Yanovskaya
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Daena said:
Kustarova said she questioned pair's work ethics and when she voiced her complaints, Elena asked for some time-out, which dragged on for a week, after that Kustarova showed them the door.
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Remember this is why Zhulin kicked I/K to the curb back in 2011 he said they had terrible work habits. People like to talk about Nikita being the problem with that team but they both were at fault and it seems neither of them has learned anything over the years.
 
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