U.S. Women [#7]: Make Me a Believer!

I just don't get why people who watch this sport care so much about marketing and stardom. Is it because the actual sport is too boring to discuss.
 
God damn, have you ever read the PBP threads and the long after-analyses?

Everything gets analyzed here, from hair bling to skate brand to edge calls. Marketing is a huge part of every major sport and skating in Oly years is really important to networks that pay gazillions for rights. I’m always interested in that aspect because I spent 40 years in PR - political advocacy not marketing, but I know how the sausage is made.

Go eat something nice to help with that grumpy feeling.
 
Coco said:
It's because we want more people to watch.
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So the actual sport is too boring to watch, because the skating is too boring without cute marketing?

I think it makes perfect sense people don't watch skating, and no marketing will change it 🤷‍♂️

IDK. I doubt I'm offbase here that audience in other individual niche sports discuss who is so very famous and popular and how people can watch those sports more. Not to the extent in skating anyway. And in skating it was deeply irritating with fanyus, and I don't see how it's any better in the opposite direction.
 
On My Own said:
So the actual sport is too boring to watch, because the skating is too boring without cute marketing?

I think it makes perfect sense people don't watch skating, and no marketing will change it 🤷‍♂️

IDK. I doubt I'm offbase here that audience in other individual niche sports discuss who is so very famous and popular and how people can watch those sports more. Not to the extent in skating anyway. And in skating it was deeply irritating with fanyus, and I don't see how it's any better in the opposite direction.
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Some of us watched skating for years and hung out here without ever being annoyed by or noticing fanyus. I was even on skating Twitter back then. Literally had no impact whatsoever.
 
olympic said:
Do you recall when she scored that? I feel bad for her. You can tell that she is a motivated young woman, selects interesting music and is ambitious technically, but her tech is failing her ...
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Unfortunately, Thorngren needed to switch coaches at least six years ago to have any chance. Her jump technique is awful and extremely flawed. It's sad because her choreography last season was sublime.
 
Liu has a pretty decent chance of appealing to a younger generation.

Shriffin is very marketable, and it isn't about being a pretty princess or her love life.
 
jägerbomb said:
Unfortunately, Thorngren needed to switch coaches at least six years ago to have any chance. Her jump technique is awful and extremely flawed. It's sad because her choreography last season was sublime.
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I’ve always wondered who is her coach, was she a figure skater. I guess I should go google her before Karen gets up my @ss.
 
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I’ve always wondered who is her coach, was she a figure skater. I guess I should go google her before Karen gets up my @ss.
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Julia Lautowa was a great skater. She had one of the stand-out performances at 1997 Worlds, at 15, and finished in the top 10. She was looked to as a future champion as that season went on, also having great skates in the Grand Prix earlier that year (2nd at Cup of Russia).

She dealt with injuries and wild inconsistency throughout her career, as well, but now has a daughter who is already showing success on the junior level nationally, at the age of 12.

Here's a memorable Lautowa clip from 2003 Worlds, as she fell on her final position and laughed it off wonderfully.

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Julia Lautowa 2003 LP World Championships

Spectacular choreography, good speed and some good jumps. The ending is the best part!
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Here's her 1997 Worlds free skate, which was a hand-me-down of Butyrskaya's 1993 long program with a lot of the same choreography.

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Julia Lautowa (AUT) - 1997 World Figure Skating Championships, Ladies' Free Skate

Lausanne, SWITZERLAND - 1997 World Figure Skating Championships, Ladies' Free Skate - Julia Lautowa of Austria placed 6th in the Free Skate and ended moving ...
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Anyways, Thorngren isn't going anywhere unless she goes back to complete basics on the jumps. The programs are good (the short is an absolute standout and makes me want Bezic back full-time), but the way she jumps straight up and down for starters on the second triple in her combo, she has no chance at rotating it. The rest of her jumps get tentative and she's already under the microscope for < or even <<. That won't be fixed because she has a 'good day'.
 
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I was totally glued to figure skating then as well, but I don’t remember her …she skated for Switzerland? OK soon as I have a moment, I will watch those videos.
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She only had a narrow window in 96-97 where she placed high enough to make it to the American television broadcasts, so that's understandable. I liked her skating fine, but falling on her ass at 2003 Worlds is probably her most noteworthy moment, which should tell you everything you need to know.

tony said:
Anyways, Thorngren isn't going anywhere unless she goes back to complete basics on the jumps. The programs are good (the short is an absolute standout and makes me want Bezic back full-time), but the way she jumps straight up and down for starters on the second triple in her combo, she has no chance at rotating it. The rest of her jumps get tentative and she's already under the microscope for < or even <<. That won't be fixed because she has a 'good day'.
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Yes, the jumping technique badly needs an overhaul. I think I remember TSL (pre-meltdown) mentioning they were working on that. Honestly, I think she shouldn't even attempt a triple-triple next season and focus on her technique and rotating each jump. She'd struggle in the SP but wouldn't be at a points disadvantage in the LP with axel sequences.
 
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