Vagabond
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And make them count for at least 60% of the overall score!
I don’t recall reading similar criticism of his skating or his marks. His weaknesses were conveniently ignored. Why? Due to his gender or his country or his coach? (After all Trusova is coached by the evil Eteri- sarcasm of course)
Nathan is a bit different though, because he always had the ability to be artistic, but it was shoved to the side for quads.
I have to admit Nathan Chen did have very significantly developed skating skills when he was a little boy in novice 10 years ago. He was doing edge pulls, spread eagles, footwork in both directions ...
2010.US.Champs.Novice.Nathan.Chen
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There have been "complete skater" ladies champions. Michelle Kwan, who started out as a jumping bean and not particularly artistic, developed into an artist with great skating skills as she grew. Yuna Kim was always a good jumper, her artistry improved as she developed.I prefer more complete skaters, but this judging system doesn’t reward the complete skater.
And on the flip side... is there something stopping complete skaters from upping the difficulty of their jump content?
It is not a Samurai program. Abe no Seimei was a shaman-like historical figure in Japan history. Legends say his father was a human but his mother was a fox demon. In short, he was an exorcist.I'm glad that Yuzuru's samurai program was the gold medal face of the Olympics.
I don’t like the idea of ladies skating being viewed as something that athletes have to get over and done with by school leaving age. Why even bother then. Just skip the sport.
So different to a sport like tennis where there are champions everyone follows for a long time and come to love. Imagine tennis without Williams, Nadal, Federer etc.
Bring back figures
Since we don't know the future, this season she's the skater to beat. If ladies skating competition medalists are the next 15 year old with the skills, that's what it is.
Bring back figures
There have been "complete skater" ladies champions. Michelle Kwan, who started out as a jumping bean and not particularly artistic, developed into an artist with great skating skills as she grew. Yuna Kim was always a good jumper, her artistry improved as she developed.
Trusova, along with the other young jumping phenoms, may very well do the same.
And on the flip side... is there something stopping complete skaters from upping the difficulty of their jump content?
If that happens long-term, my fear is that many (more) skaters will try to starve themselves to have a pre-pubescent girl's body. Obviously eating disorders are already a big problem in the sport but we've seen women win worlds in recent years while not being stick figures. What if the need for multiple quads means this is no longer possible?
This isn't the young skaters' fault (although I do hope their puberty isn't being artificially delayed) and I don't think they should be prevented from doing quads. But I worry.
I agree they are all athletes who set their own agendas and goals. But I also agree with others that program component scores are being inflated for more "athletic" skaters and that is an unjust way to award points, which determines which skaters go home with medals.Since we don't know the future, this season she's the skater to beat. If ladies skating competition medalists are the next 15 year old with the skills, that's what it is. And, the 2022 Olympic medalists may not be any of the current Russian seniors. Nobody knows. But, overall, the women skaters are athletes same as the men. And they're the ones who've decided they can do what the men can do. They've set a new standard in women's skating. Fans may or may not like it, but that's the fan's problem and not the skater. They have a different agenda.
I don't love Trusova's skating per se, but I absolutely admire her. And she's totally adorable.
Sigh. This feels like the same conversations that have been going on re: ladies skating, only now intensified and/or made worse by this quad thing which is not balancing skating (technical plus quality skating skills and artistry).
The ISU has no choice. They must ban all eteri girls and eteri herself from coaching until the investigation into her starving girls is complete
She is still very much pre pubescent (therefore no hips etc) until she has enough body fat to go through it (Puberty), That is required as opposed to muscle. If she can still do quads after that will be amazing as women are typically at such a disadvantage physically with their body changes. Even if they stay very slender, hips an shoulder’s make a difference as we see with Medvedeva. So much harder to rotate. BUT ... You cant take away her amazing accomplishment she has really pushed the envelope for women‘s skating, bravo to her!It's interesting - Trusova is going through a slight growth spurt already, but it hasn't yet had any detrimental affect yet (perhaps maybe on the 4 sal, which doesn't appear to be that stable anymore).
Let's discuss these quad wonder girls AFTER they aren't starved so they don't hit puberty.
The ISU has no choice. They must ban all eteri girls and eteri herself from coaching until the investigation into her starving girls is complete
With skaters being replaced by the next big thing on a regular basis, it is very hard to build any kind of long - term appreciation or continuity for developing stars. The era of a Michelle Kwan has well and truly passed.
Not really - just look at Hanyu, who might arguably be the sports' biggest megastar ever. Only for ladies do we have this issue.
No, where do that 9 points come from? have you looked at the protocol?