The Dance Hall 6: We're All Off Our Rockers 2018-2019

[Lara111]

Is it still looking unlikely for Christina to go to the Olympics? He may be playing a better long game if so....

that would be strange since Kolesnik is an Ukranian and does not have a US passport

 

[Debbie S]

I believe Vadim can't even apply for a green card until he is 18, so his citizenship will take a while. It also sounds like Christina won't have hers by 2022, either. I'm sure Igor will pick up a few int'l teams over the quad, plus he has Min/Eaton (as long as Daniel can get Korean citizenship by then). But he clearly would rather promote N/K and C/P right now. It does seem that he view N/K as his team of the future...although if this interview was done at the GPF, it makes sense he'd talk all about them, since they competed there.

 

[Andora]

that would be strange since Kolesnik is an Ukranian and does not have a US passport

I've paid exactly zero attention to his other team, so I had no idea.

Poor Igor. Dancers everywhere, but not enough passports between them.

 

[MarieM]

Ah and Zhulin did his own politiks interviews. I love russians. They always deliver

 

[Bigbird]

Ah and Zhulin did his own politiks interviews. I love russians. They always deliver

Well, somebody needs to show Kustarova/Alexeeva how it's done right?

 

[MarieM]

Well, somebody needs to show Kustarova/Alexeeva how it's done right?

Someone should, but IMO Kustarova did it well with Lena.

 

[Ka3sha]

Ah and Zhulin did his own politiks interviews. I love russians. They always deliver

Vaitsekhovskaya’s interview with Zhulin (translated by FS-gossips)
https://fs-gossips.com/alexander-zh...o-be-as-close-as-possible-to-the-french-pair/

 

[Bigbird]

Vaitsekhovskaya’s interview with Zhulin (translated by FS-gossips)
https://fs-gossips.com/alexander-zh...o-be-as-close-as-possible-to-the-french-pair/

Let's break this down, what's he really saying? Was it necessary to give this interview now? Is he really hating on my baby Rika? I mean, I know it's politics, but there are limits right, wow.

 

[PRlady]

That was fascinating. Other than that Russian tendency to credit Asian skaters with genetic advantage, which is sort of racist, everything he says is a professional opinion worth reading.

Interesting that Elena and Nikita clearly haven’t buried the hatchet.

 

[VGThuy]

I was actually agreeing with what he was saying all-around, even understanding the Rika being colorless is coming from even if I disagree with that. However, he said the Japanese have soft knees by nature. Um...did he do a anatomical study on that to verify that statement?

 

[Enchanted]

I’m afraid the way some of these coaches run their mouths makes them and their skaters look bad. IMO, it’s always a bad idea to speak negatively of other skaters or their coaches. That kind of a politicking just doesn’t work. The trash talk will only cast a shadow over their own teams. It makes them look weak because their coach needs to talk them up.

The fact these comments appear like a cuckoo clock every season is rather tiresome.

 

[VGThuy]

I remember reading that Zhulin's group at 2016-17 Skate America were video recording the Shibs the whole time. I wonder if they came to the conclusion that the Shibs' knees were just genetic in nature.

 

[RoseRed]

That was fascinating. Other than that Russian tendency to credit Asian skaters with genetic advantage, which is sort of racist, everything he says is a professional opinion worth reading.

Interesting that Elena and Nikita clearly haven’t buried the hatchet.

Elena has said in an interview that she's cheering for Nikita and Vika this season. And Nikita helped with one of her clinics with Yulia. I wouldn't assume there's still bad blood. Maybe just that training together would be distracting. Also I seem to remember Zhulin saying something similar before, that B/S and S/K didn't train together.

 

[mjb52]

His comments about the music for S & K are interesting - I know some people think the two pieces don't go together; for me, I think they are an interesting contrast and the problem I see is that the transition between the two is very awkward. It's probably a bit late now but I wish the edit could be smoothed out a bit. I also agree a lot with the comments above - I generally like the bluntness of Russian coaches and enjoy some of their more out there statements but lately some of their comments have been going a bit far for me. I wish they would be more careful about how they talk about other countries skaters in particular. I did mostly like this though other than that.

 

[Shayii]

Vaitsekhovskaya’s interview with Zhulin (translated by FS-gossips)
https://fs-gossips.com/alexander-zh...o-be-as-close-as-possible-to-the-french-pair/

Katsalapov’s former partner Elena Ilinykh trains at your skating rink in a pair with your dancer Dmitri Soloviev. Doesn’t this bring discomfort to your work with the main pair?

– Lena with Dima and Nikita with Vika skate on different ice. This was done on purpose, moreover, it was previously discussed with Dima.

Wait, what?! When did this happen?

 

[Bigbird]

Wait, what?! When did this happen?

Sometime in October I think based on his social media, I think.

Ilinykh & Soloviev

 

[Debbie S]

Wait, what?! When did this happen?

Sometime in October I think based on his social media, I think.

I think it was said they are training for shows, not comps. Although I suppose that is subject to change at any time....

 

[Shayii]

Thanks to the both of you. I had no idea.

 

[Bigbird]

I think it was said they are training for shows, not comps. Although I suppose that is subject to change at any time....

I think they may be using this medium to get a feel for each other as they seem quite serious about forming a pair. Otherwise Zhulin wouldn't have even made mention of them.

EDIT: But as they say only time will tell.

 

[barbarafan]

Let's break this down, what's he really saying? Was it necessary to give this interview now? Is he really hating on my baby Rika? I mean, I know it's politics, but there are limits right, wow.

I thought he really admired Rika's beauty and skating skills on the ice. He also pointed out that Alina's skating skills were not the greatest.

 

[Bigbird]

I thought he really admired Rika's beauty and skating skills on the ice. He also pointed out that Alina's skating skills were not the greatest.

Thanks for that. I just needed to know if he was human.

EDIT: Imagine Russia having not three but four quality senior teams in S/B, S/K, Z/G and I/S? Not to mention their promising juniors coming up. Let me not get ahead of myself but a girl can dream, right?

 

[mjb52]

Thanks for that. I just needed to know if he was human.

EDIT: Imagine Russia having not three but four quality senior teams in S/B, S/K, Z/G and I/S? Not to mention their promising juniors coming up. Let me not get ahead of myself but a girl can dream, right?

I was just thinking about this on the way to work! On the one hand, I'm excited by the potential return of Illinykh, who I love, but on the other hand, it's almost a bit stressful because there are already so many teams that I love and I hate thinking about some of them falling by the wayside as happens in the super crowded ladies field!

 

[taz'smum]

I was just thinking about this on the way to work! On the one hand, I'm excited by the potential return of Illinykh, who I love, but on the other hand, it's almost a bit stressful because there are already so many teams that I love and I hate thinking about some of them falling by the wayside as happens in the super crowded ladies field!

Dima will be 30 before next season, that is a bit late to be starting again with a new partner!
That's the age in dance when most teams retire.

 

[kittysk8ts]

His comments about the music for S & K are interesting - I know some people think the two pieces don't go together; for me, I think they are an interesting contrast and the problem I see is that the transition between the two is very awkward. It's probably a bit late now but I wish the edit could be smoothed out a bit. I also agree a lot with the comments above - I generally like the bluntness of Russian coaches and enjoy some of their more out there statements but lately some of their comments have been going a bit far for me. I wish they would be more careful about how they talk about other countries skaters in particular. I did mostly like this though other than that.

I have to take great care in recognizing that some comments may not translate well, when reading these interviews. Lol. In general, I find Zhulin's comments fair.

 

[Bigbird]

Dima will be 30 before next season, that is a bit late to be starting again with a new partner!
That's the age in dance when most teams retire.

If she were a junior or relative unknown and she didn't have that first season with Zhiganshin (who was adequate but not an ideal match), I'd say nonsense. If this wasn't the age that ice dancers really come into their prime I'd also be more than a little sceptical. Given also that they have three seasons to make their mark and the road blocks he's endured in this last quad with injury and the meldonium scandal, I'd say do your thing the ice is slippery have no regrets, never let it be said that you never gave it your best shot.

 

[starrynight]

I think I read something though that Elena and Lipnitskaya have skating clinics booked a fair bit into the future?

 

[Bigbird]

I think I read something though that Elena and Lipnitskaya have skating clinics booked a fair bit into the future?

That is true, I think till next summer based on an interview that was done this summer. They also have a Japanese engagement, hopefully this could bring in some much needed extra cash.

 

[VGThuy]

A fellow FSUer tweeted that all of Igor's teams have one person with citizenship problems. What is this? The 90s-to-mid 2000s?

 

[Bigbird]

A fellow FSUer tweeted that all of Igor's teams have one person with citizenship problems. What is this? The 90s-to-mid 2000s?

It's ruff business even putting together a quality ice dance team and its even ruffer keeping them together. Poor Igor.

 

[Lara111]

Its easier to control and motivate people with citizenship problems.