Russian figure skating news & updates in 2022

[hanca]

I thought this thread is supposed to be about Russian skaters and skating, not about who is killing whom.

 

[Sylvia]

Junior sports couples and dance duets held a training camp in Novogorsk (Oct. 6):

НА КОНТРОЛЕ. Юниорские спортивные пары и танцевальные дуэты провели сбор в Новогорске

На олимпийской базе в Новогорске завершился тренировочный сбор юниорских танцевальных и спортивных пар, которые 4 и 5-го октября представили короткие и произвольные программы. В тренировочном сборе

fsrussia.ru

The composition of the participants of the Russian Grand Prix series - figure skaters of the Russian national team (Sept. 27):

Состав участников российской серии Гран-при – фигуристов сборной России

В конце октября в Москве стартует первый этап российской серии Гран-при. Серия включает 6 турниров, которые пройдут в Москве, Сочи, Казани, Москве, Самаре и Перми. На каждом этапе Гран-при смогут

fsrussia.ru

 

[Karen-W]

Junior sports couples and dance duets held a training camp in Novogorsk (Oct. 6):

НА КОНТРОЛЕ. Юниорские спортивные пары и танцевальные дуэты провели сбор в Новогорске

На олимпийской базе в Новогорске завершился тренировочный сбор юниорских танцевальных и спортивных пар, которые 4 и 5-го октября представили короткие и произвольные программы. В тренировочном сборе

fsrussia.ru

The composition of the participants of the Russian Grand Prix series - figure skaters of the Russian national team (Sept. 27):

Состав участников российской серии Гран-при – фигуристов сборной России

В конце октября в Москве стартует первый этап российской серии Гран-при. Серия включает 6 турниров, которые пройдут в Москве, Сочи, Казани, Москве, Самаре и Перми. На каждом этапе Гран-при смогут

fsrussia.ru

LOL - DavSmo are scheduled to compete in Moscow the same weekend as the US Sectionals Dance Final is being held in Norwood. They better show up in Moscow or Dave Lease is going to double down on his insistence that they're still switching THIS season and will somehow be granted a bye to compete at US Nationals despite zero evidence to support that theory.

And, it looks like Morozov's made the decision to have Annabelle & David Naryzhnyy represent Russia.

ETA - no StepBuk this fall... Maybe DL needs to focus on the Stepanova pregnancy rumors that are out there instead of DavSmo.

 

[SkateSand]

I think Smolkin would be nuts to show up anywhere in Russia as if there is a skater they'd draft, it would be him because of his anti-war social media posts.

 

[Rukia]

I think Smolkin would be nuts to show up anywhere in Russia as if there is a skater they'd draft, it would be him because of his anti-war social media posts.

I seriously doubt they will get anywhere near Russia anytime in the near future. But also I hope they show up at US Nats...as spectators because that would genuinely be hilarious.

 

[Lanja]

I can't decide if it's just a slow news day in Norway or if the situation has gotten so bad that it can't be ignored (we almost never get any FS coverage here) -- NRK, the national broadcaster, has an article currently on the front page about Ice Age. Ilinykh described her routine with Egor Beroev: "I want every woman to wait at the front for her husband, and if she sees this number and it gives her strength...I hope it will inspire and help."

Beroev adds, "We, actors and skaters, what can we do to win? We can raise morale, spread joy and the certainty that we will win, and believe in the future of our country."

 

[TAHbKA]

I can't decide if it's just a slow news day in Norway or if the situation has gotten so bad that it can't be ignored (we almost never get any FS coverage here) -- NRK, the national broadcaster, has an article currently on the front page about Ice Age. Ilinykh described her routine with Egor Beroev: "I want every woman to wait at the front for her husband, and if she sees this number and it gives her strength...I hope it will inspire and help."

Beroev adds, "We, actors and skaters, what can we do to win? We can raise morale, spread joy and the certainty that we will win, and believe in the future of our country."

Oh this paper is totally not reliable. They call Sinitsina/Katsalapov Olympic gold winners

 

[Tesla]

Oh this paper is totally not reliable. They call Sinitsina/Katsalapov Olympic gold winners

Well, technically, they are. They were part of the gold-medal winning team in the team event.

 

[Vagabond]

Well, technically, they are. They were part of the gold-medal winning team in the team event.

 

[On My Own]

Well, technically, they are. They were part of the gold-medal winning team in the team event.

That's the point.

 

[TAHbKA]

Well, technically, they are. They were part of the gold-medal winning team in the team event.

No, technically it's just Katsalapov in 2014

 

[Tesla]

Technically, they are still Olympic gold medalists.

From Olympics.com

ETA I do not agree with it at all and think this should be blank but ROC is still listed as the gold-medal team. I don't think it's right but technically, the article isn't wrong.

 

[barbarafan]

Ukrainians are killing them as well.

Correction: Ukrainians are defending their country against invading forces sent by a raving murderous lunatic who is trying to turn Russia into a cult.

 

[reut]

Correction: Ukrainians are defending their country against invading forces sent by a raving murderous lunatic who is trying to turn Russia into a cult.

I mean it's so simple, just to answer the question: if russians stop invading Ukraine, will Ukrainians continue killing them? And if Ukrainians stop fighting, will russians continue killing them? (Hint: check what happened in Bucha, Izyum, etc) But for some people it's "we don't know everything", "there are loved ones from both sides", "russians can't think differently"

As for Olympic gold I actually thought it was only russia that continued calling them all from that team Olympic champions but apparently it isn't. As for the article and quotes, well, they are more or less the same as in russian article I provided earlier, so don't see why it can't be trusted.

 

[BittyBug]

I don't see how ROC could be team gold medalists if there has yet to be a medal ceremony.

 

[tony]

I don't see how ROC could be team gold medalists if there has yet to be a medal ceremony.

They were gold medalists as soon as the results said 'official' following the event, but there's a note on the women's and team event results that they are provisional.

Of course Russia is going to state they are gold medalists and others are going to interpret it how it best benefits them.

 

[On My Own]

Of course Russia is going to state they are gold medalists and others are going to interpret it how it best benefits them.

https://www.nrk.no/sport/ol-heltens...-vekker-avsky_-_-det-er-motbydelig-1.16130834 this is Norwegian though.

 

[On My Own]

On a different note,

https://twitter.com/x/status/1579810064004939777

Interesting to see that a junior woman wants to train with Eteri... and also doesn't agree with the sanctions.

 

[Tesla]

https://www.nrk.no/sport/ol-heltens...-vekker-avsky_-_-det-er-motbydelig-1.16130834 this is Norwegian though.

Even though it says "provisional," they are still considered gold medalists. Shcherbakova is still considered the women's gold medalist, even though the women's result is provisional. It sucks but the article isn't wrong.

 

[On My Own]

Even though it says "provisional," they are still considered gold medalists. Shcherbakova is still considered the women's gold medalist, even though the women's result is provisional. It sucks but the article isn't wrong.

Shcherbakova's case is different - her OGM isn't in question, because she's first according to the judges, and wasn't being investigated for doping. The results after Sakamoto are in question. Hence why they held a medal ceremony.

The Russian Team OGM had Valieva. Hence why the entire result is in question, including the podium spots and why no medal ceremony was held, and why S/K aren't OGMs unless you add "provisional" next to it.

 

[Tesla]

Shcherbakova's case is different - her OGM isn't in question, because she's first according to the judges, and wasn't being investigated for doping. The results after Sakamoto are in question. Hence why they held a medal ceremony.

The Russian Team OGM had Valieva. Hence why the entire result is in question, including the podium spots and why no medal ceremony was held, and why S/K aren't OGMs unless you add "provisional" next to it.

I completely agree but according to Olympics.com and Wikipedia and probably countless other sources, S/K are considered Olympic gold medalists. The article probably should've omitted that part but it should in no way devalue what it says.

 

[On My Own]

I completely agree but according to Olympics.com and Wikipedia and probably countless other sources, S/K are considered Olympic gold medalists. The article probably should've omitted that part but it should in no way devalue what it says.

To be honest, I'm not certain what you're agreeing with.

The article isn't necessarily reliable, because whoever wrote it couldn't be bothered to fact check. Wikipedia is hardly a source of any kind, and as @tony said there are notes about the Team and Women's results being provisional - even scratching the surface on that would have told them it was because of Kamila (thereby not calling Anna's OGM into question, but definitely calling S/K's into question).

If countless sources claim otherwise, they are wrong. Countless sources can indeed be wrong.

If whoever wrote the article couldn't be bothered to fact check these things, how can we be sure the rest of what they wrote is reliable?

Anyway, I'm sure we'll find out the main contents of the article are reliable or not soon. Or won't in my case, because it's vomit-inducing to learn more about.

 

[airgelaal]

Some of the Russian figure skaters said that they were not given only medals. Everything else, as winners, they received.

 

[Karen-W]

Some of the Russian figure skaters said that they were not given only medals. Everything else, as winners, they received.

Well, yes, because they had a victory ceremony at the arena where they received the exclusive panda bears given to medalists, and I think they also received flowers, which I think was the case for all of the events - there was a venue victory ceremony and then the medal ceremony, usually the next day. I don't know if the BOCOG had other gifts they awarded the medalists - usually the NOCs award money/prizes/additional gifts to their own medalists. I believe that the ROC and Russian government went ahead and awarded the team the gold medalist level money/prizes/gifts, which might be what they are referring to.

 

[airgelaal]

Well, yes, because they had a victory ceremony at the arena where they received the exclusive panda bears given to medalists, and I think they also received flowers, which I think was the case for all of the events - there was a venue victory ceremony and then the medal ceremony, usually the next day. I don't know if the BOCOG had other gifts they awarded the medalists - usually the NOCs award money/prizes/additional gifts to their own medalists. I believe that the ROC and Russian government went ahead and awarded the team the gold medalist level money/prizes/gifts, which might be what they are referring to.

No, from the organizers. I found a video of Kondratyuk, where he shows a box for a medal and a letter from Bach.

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[pointbleu]

I completely agree but according to Olympics.com and Wikipedia and probably countless other sources, S/K are considered Olympic gold medalists. The article probably should've omitted that part but it should in no way devalue what it says.

No offence, but since when does Wikipedia is a reliable source of information? I would go with Olympics.com and that would be enough for your point

 

[Rukia]

No, from the organizers. I found a video of Kondratyuk, where he shows a box for a medal and a letter from Bach.

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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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Yes they were definitely given boxes for the medals. The US team were talking about how they all had empty boxes to take home as well.

 

[TAHbKA]

Technically, they are still Olympic gold medalists.

From Olympics.com

ETA I do not agree with it at all and think this should be blank but ROC is still listed as the gold-medal team. I don't think it's right but technically, the article isn't wrong.

they claim only 3 out of 2014 team are in the ice age, but in fact it's 4 - Volosozhar is also participating. There! I knew the paper was not reliable

 

[Bigbird]

they claim only 3 out of 2014 team are in the ice age, but in fact it's 4 - Volosozhar is also participating. There! I knew the paper was not reliable

And her team actually has a chance of winning the whole thing. LOL.

 

[antmanb]

So Ukrainian born Volosozhar will take part in Ice Age and it's crickets in here about that?