Royalty Thread #8.....A Pregnant Pause

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If this child shares a birthday with Charlotte, the press will probably create a rivalry while the little one is still in the cradle. :lol: Of course, they'll probably do that anyway.
 
Lorac said:
I reckon she's already had it and is enjoying toying with the media in not announcing 😊. If so good for her. Regardless I can only assume she is sitting with her feet up and just enjoying chilling out.
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When you are that pregnant, there is no chilling out. There is no comfortable position....and just when you find one, a tiny foot kicks your bladder.

From the Daily Mail linked above:

Buckingham Palace will confirm when Meghan is in labour and the baby's sex and weight when it is born, and the couple will pose for photographs a few days later
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I was wondering: Since Meghan has not given up her American Citizen, the baby will be an American citizen (as well as British). So does that mean we in the USA will have a prince/princess? Will we get a place for crown jewels and stuff.

I just love the jewels.:summer:
 
The Duchess of Sussex has not yet had her baby. Reportedly, an announcement will be made sometime after she goes into labor. There has still been no indication of whether the DoS will try for a home birth, and if so, which local hospital might be on standby. The birth will likely be announced sometime after it occurs. But no photo-op will be scheduled within hours of the birth.

The media will have to wait for at least a day or two post-birth, according to the Sussexes' understandable desire to celebrate as a family first. Only one photographer, one print reporter, and one broadcast reporter (of their selection) will be allowed into Windsor Castle for the photo op, and the resulting photos and video will be shared with other media outlets. An Instagram photo will also surely be posted by the Sussexes. Their offspring will most certainly not bear royal titles, nor ever be charged with carrying out royal duties [royal title means HRH Prince/Princess]. As Harry is a Duke, his children are entitled to be known as Lord/Lady, and an eldest or only boy could be called Earl of Dumbarton.

I think the Sussexes are wise in the way they are trying to manage the heavy interest by not having royal fans and the media piling up outside of a hospital for days, blocking streets and hospital entrances, which disrupts other patients and their guests. The media has been allowed to set up positions along the Long Walk to Windsor Castle. And a number of royal reporters and media outlets are already in Windsor. Fans have been speculating for months on the baby's gender and possible names ...

Meanwhile, a number of Sussex friends and many members of the royal family have been visiting the Sussexes in their new home at Frogmore Cottage. Her Majesty, the Queen was among recent visitors:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/roya...-queen-frogmore-cottage-due-date-prince-harry

Latest GMA report featuring royal reporter Omid Scobie who is known to have Sussex contacts:
https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1123200316659265537
https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/royalbaby

ETA:
Daily Fail has been quite exploitative toward Meghan, but they usually have good pictures. Her half bro Tom Jr recently sold yet another group of old family photos to DF, which were quite intrusive showing Meghan's Mom holding her newborn 'Flower' in the hospital about a day after birth, along with other photos of young Meghan with her Mom, and her maternal grandmother, Jeanette. There are plenty of sites to check for Baby Sussex updates, including Omid Scobie and Chris Ship (royal reporter) Twitters, and blogs like Meghan's Mirror and Mad About Meghan. Plus BBC news alerts...
 
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Wyliefan said:
If this child shares a birthday with Charlotte, the press will probably create a rivalry while the little one is still in the cradle. :lol: Of course, they'll probably do that anyway.
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No 'probably' about that, so let's pray not! :drama: Baby Sussex already escaped being born on either the Queen's or Prince Louis' birthdays. She or He also should try to escape being born on Princess Charlotte's birthday! Sweet, feisty Charlotte deserves her own royally special day all to herself, as does the Sussex little lamb, who apparently is having a fine time chillin' inside Mom Meghan, and just hasn't yet made up it's mind about coming out into this crazy world (albeit there will be nurturing protection galore, amidst the natural delights of historic Windsor Home Park).

Sharing again this cute Sussex baby gif:
https://twitter.com/KatherineEliza/status/1102369517420888064
 
The anti-Meghan world on Twitter and Instagram has gone completely off the rails.

It goes something like this. All of this together, from the same posters, so it makes as little sense as it appears:

Meghan is at Kensington Palace under armed guard until the baby is born at which time she will be arrested for treason and (they hope) locked in the Tower of London like Anne Boleyn. Except that the baby will not be born because there is NO BABY! But the treason charge is because the baby, born by a surrogate is not Harry's baby. Or hers. (Me to one: well, if the baby is not biologically related to either of them, that wouldn't be surrogacy, that would be adoption--rest assured, it was explained to me that is not true!). There is no baby because the surrogate backed out at the last minute (unclear if this was before conception or recently) and they are "looking for a surrogate who will have a baby soon" to cover their mess. (Again, that wouldn't be surrogacy, that would be adoption). Once the baby is born, Meghan will be arrested. She is definitely not pregnant, but they are delaying the arrest until she births the baby, that doesn't exist because she is not pregnant. And royal children must be "born of the body" of the person also born of the royal family. Another rational poster pointed out that male members of the family don't bear children directly from their bodies ever. But apparently in an anomaly of nature, they do. Except Harry. Because of the surrogate. Who does not exist. If the baby is not born of the body of the person born to the royal family, it is treason. Hence Meghan's impending arrest to become the first prisoner in the Tower of London since 1952 (I just looked it up).

*I've been reading all of this because, well, I like a good train wreck now and then.
 
You can avoid all this by focusing on non-British royals ;)

I realize that people are super-interested in the BRF, but Meghan's husband is 6th in line to the throne. She's the equivalent of Princess Marie of Denmark, and how many people come up with Q-anon stuff about Marie?

Exactly.
 
aftershocks said:
The Duchess of Sussex has not yet had her baby. Reportedly, an announcement will be made sometime after she goes into labor. There has still been no indication of whether the DoS will try for a home birth, and if so, which local hospital might be on standby. The birth will likely be announced sometime after it occurs. But no photo-op will be scheduled within hours of the birth.
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I love the fact that you KNOW she hasn't had the baby yet. But you surely know if she is having a home birth or not. A lot of us speculate about the royal family. But you know, either because you have a direct pipeline or because you are clairvoyant. Either way, bravo!

The media will have to wait for at least a day or two post-birth, according to the Sussexes' understandable desire to celebrate as a family first. Only one photographer, one print reporter, and one broadcast reporter (of their selection) will be allowed into Windsor Castle for the photo op, and the resulting photos and video will be shared with other media outlets. An Instagram photo will also surely be posted by the Sussexes. Their offspring will most certainly not bear royal titles, nor ever be charged with carrying out royal duties [royal title means HRH Prince/Princess]. As Harry is a Duke, his children are entitled to be known as Lord/Lady, and an eldest or only boy could be called Earl of Dumbarton.
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Thank you for telling us what we've read a hundred times already.
 
PDilemma said:
The anti-Meghan world on Twitter and Instagram has gone completely off the rails.

It goes something like this. All of this together, from the same posters, so it makes as little sense as it appears:

Meghan is at Kensington Palace under armed guard until the baby is born at which time she will be arrested for treason and (they hope) locked in the Tower of London like Anne Boleyn. Except that the baby will not be born because there is NO BABY! But the treason charge is because the baby, born by a surrogate is not Harry's baby. Or hers. (Me to one: well, if the baby is not biologically related to either of them, that wouldn't be surrogacy, that would be adoption--rest assured, it was explained to me that is not true!). There is no baby because the surrogate backed out at the last minute (unclear if this was before conception or recently) and they are "looking for a surrogate who will have a baby soon" to cover their mess. (Again, that wouldn't be surrogacy, that would be adoption). Once the baby is born, Meghan will be arrested. She is definitely not pregnant, but they are delaying the arrest until she births the baby, that doesn't exist because she is not pregnant. And royal children must be "born of the body" of the person also born of the royal family. Another rational poster pointed out that male members of the family don't bear children directly from their bodies ever. But apparently in an anomaly of nature, they do. Except Harry. Because of the surrogate. Who does not exist. If the baby is not born of the body of the person born to the royal family, it is treason. Hence Meghan's impending arrest to become the first prisoner in the Tower of London since 1952 (I just looked it up).

*I've been reading all of this because, well, I like a good train wreck now and then.
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Last I checked Meghan was also undergoing sex reassignment surgery because shes actually a man and the pregnancy is to cover up for this emergency sex reassignment surgery. Also the BRF wants the US to pay for this surgery bc Meghan is still an American citizen.
 
taf2002 said:
I love the fact that you KNOW she hasn't had the baby yet. But you surely know if she is having a home birth or not. A lot of us speculate about the royal family. But you know, either because you have a direct pipeline or because you are clairvoyant. Either way, bravo!

Thank you for telling us what we've read a hundred times already.
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Yes @taf2002, thank you for your pile-on, just because. :blah: Trivial complaints by you, and the first part of your assessment re my reference to a home birth is your misreading, since I said there's been 'no indication of whether Meghan will try for a home birth.' Despite no confirmation, royal reporters have contended that the Duchess of Sussex may prefer a home birth, even though it just as easily may not happen, if it's not found to be feasible. Many royal reporters do actually have real insider sources.

https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1123597357877288961
https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1123617313251581952

kittyjake5 said:
You may be right😮
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Read Chris Ship's Twitter posts above.

As well, the always reliable Omid Scobie:
https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1123597957272567809
 
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aftershocks said:
Yes @taf2002, thank you for your pile-on, just because. :blah: Trivial complaints by you, and the first part of your assessment re my reference to a home birth is your misreading, since I said there's been 'no indication of whether Meghan will try for a home birth.' Despite no confirmation, royal reporters have contended that the Duchess of Sussex may prefer a home birth, even though it just as easily may not happen, if it's not found to be feasible. Many royal reporters do actually have real insider sources.

https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1123597357877288961



Read Chris Ship's Twitter post above.

As well, the always reliable Omid Scobie:
https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1123597957272567809
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My "pile-on" is because you said "she has not yet had her baby". You don't seem to know the difference between "I know for a fact" & "it may be". And not just in this one post. I just don't believe that you are one of the insiders with knowledge. Those posts just rub me the wrong way. On the other side your posts with articles & photos are very informative & helpful.
 
I've always done my homework via a lot of background reading and thorough checking of more than one online resource. I don't pretend to know everything. I'm just obviously interested and I've been following news about the British royal family for decades. Still, I never followed the British royals as closely as I have been since November 2016. And even then, I would not win any awards for the most well-informed royalist. The most obsessed and knowledgeable fans live on an entirely different forum than this one. ;) Sure there's rampant speculation that Meghan has had the baby, but reliable sources continue to tell us otherwise. There's every indication that the public will be informed at some point after Meghan goes into labor. And once the baby is born, gender and other stats will be provided. But nothing more until the photo-op at Windsor Castle is scheduled. It also pays to keep in mind that events are always in flux.

There's no telling how long it might take, after the baby arrives, for chosen names to be revealed. I was viewing a video the other day where it was indicated QE-II took a month before revealing Prince Charles' given names. It was a few days to a week before some other royal babies' monikers surfaced.

I've been following the royals closely over the past two-and-a-half years, especially the unexpected courtship, romance and marriage of Meghan and Harry. Daily Fail is simply not one of the best sources to rely on. In fact, it's one of the worst, despite some good pictures and often some juicy leads. But it's mostly a tabloid that makes it's bread-and-butter off of underhanded practices, including click-bait headlines. I tend to stay away, but I admit being tempted to take a peek on occasion, mainly for the photos.
 
canbelto said:
Last I checked Meghan was also undergoing sex reassignment surgery because shes actually a man and the pregnancy is to cover up for this emergency sex reassignment surgery. Also the BRF wants the US to pay for this surgery bc Meghan is still an American citizen.
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OK - that is soooo funny. Or Meghan is carrying Michelle and Irina's love child.
 
Royal reporters on Twitter are saying they were told the baby has not been born yet, this trip has been planned for ages and can't be postponed (it's to coincide with the one year count down to the next Invictus games), and Harry's schedule/plans will be adjusted as needed, including cancelling the trip if it comes to that. (And even if the baby is born by then, he could take a couple of days, especially for something as important to him as Invictus. It's hardly like Meghan will be on her own in a fifth floor walk up with no one to help.)
 
canbelto said:
Last I checked Meghan was also undergoing sex reassignment surgery because shes actually a man and the pregnancy is to cover up for this emergency sex reassignment surgery. Also the BRF wants the US to pay for this surgery bc Meghan is still an American citizen.
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Well, that's never going to happen. We don't have universal healthcare.
 
Skittl1321 said:
canbelto said:
Last I checked Meghan was also undergoing sex reassignment surgery because shes actually a man and the pregnancy is to cover up for this emergency sex reassignment surgery. Also the BRF wants the US to pay for this surgery bc Meghan is still an American citizen.[/QUOTE]

Well, that's never going to happen. We don't have universal healthcare.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony
Definition of irony

1a: the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning
b: a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony
c: an ironic expression or utterance
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:COP:
 
MLIS said:
Royal reporters on Twitter are saying they were told the baby has not been born yet, this trip has been planned for ages and can't be postponed (it's to coincide with the one year count down to the next Invictus games), and Harry's schedule/plans will be adjusted as needed, including cancelling the trip if it comes to that. (And even if the baby is born by then, he could take a couple of days, especially for something as important to him as Invictus. It's hardly like Meghan will be on her own in a fifth floor walk up with no one to help.)
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Yes, and I already linked the more reliable royal reporters' Twitter messages regarding Harry's planned trip, Meghan's ongoing pregnancy, and the continued birth speculation in my earlier post #706. Here again:
https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1123597357877288961
https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1123617313251581952
https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1123597957272567809
and additionally,
https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1123592210308579331

As I noted earlier, events at a time like this, are always in flux. Harry's attendance at the recent Anzac Day service at Westminster Abbey, joining the Duchess of Cambridge, was penciled in at the last moment, due to Baby Sussex's impending arrival, and the obvious difficulty in determining exactly when he/she is going to feel ready to leave its current comfy abode. ;) As already stated, the Netherlands trip was previously planned, so they apparently see no reason to cancel it at this time. Here's the latest Sussex update in article form, by Chris Ship of ITV News:

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-05-01...-to-abandon-invictus-event-at-moments-notice/
"As a former Army soldier, the Invictus Games means a lot to Harry and he clearly wants to go – if he can.
So will he – given his wife will be nearly two weeks overdue by the time of the trip?"

Obviously, Meghan could go into labor at any point over the next few days, so perhaps the Sussexes are anticipating that the baby will have arrived prior to May 8. The Sussexes and their medical team know a lot more than any observers looking on and speculating from the outside, including the best informed royal reporters.

On a lighter note, Lainey Gossip is rooting for Baby Sussex to burst forth on May 4: :p
https://www.laineygossip.com/predicting-that-baby-sussex-will-be-born-on-may-4th/54543
 
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Of course Letizia looks fabulous - doesn't she always? - but it's certainly a more toned down look for her, as befits the circumstances.

The Princess of Asturias and Infanta Sofia are always well dressed, too.
 
canbelto said:
Last I checked Meghan was also undergoing sex reassignment surgery because shes actually a man and the pregnancy is to cover up for this emergency sex reassignment surgery. Also the BRF wants the US to pay for this surgery bc Meghan is still an American citizen.
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I'm sure they will have to delay that, too, until after the baby she is not pregnant with is born as they won't do the surgery on a pregnant person who is not really pregnant.

I may have told someone on IG that it's time to move off of Cray Cray Avenue and stop believing everything on the internet is true. I suspect I will be blocked from that page.
 
ITV's latest special feature on royal baby fever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iFGstWrFU8
This is unsurprisingly largely another fluff piece (aside from the focus on reforming gender-biased legislation in the U.K., and the investigation and debunking of the 'doula' rumors). I noticed that in his observations, Robert Lacey, forgot to mention that Meghan can also trace her ancestry all the way back to King Edward III, on her father's side:
https://www.americanancestors.org/uploadedfiles/content/features/meghan-markle-chart.pdf
The above genealogy chart clearly shows the close ancestral/ genealogical connection between Meghan and Harry.

And as a Youtube commenter on the above-linked ITV video also notes:
"Dear old Queen [Sophia] Charlotte [of Great Britain] keeps being forgotten in all this discussion but she was real and of the 18th century. And of course Queen Philippa of Hainault [who wed King Edward III]. Modern Britons deny [or are unaware] of their existence today... Denial denial denial. An attempt to distance one’s self from the reality no one wants to admit..."

https://erinlawless.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/englands-black-queens/
The last observation in this blog post (written in early 2013 when Kate was pregnant with Prince George) is stretching it in terms of statistical realities re biology and genetics. However, in the case of Meghan & Harry, the possibilities appear much stronger, yet probably still unlikely regarding a full-on 'brown' complexion for their baby's skin. But skin color isn't that significant when it comes to analyzing DNA differences. DNA technology has proven that skin color variances in terms of biology is not the most significant nor defining marker humans have socially, culturally and politically made it out to be. Sadly, skin color differences have been used for centuries to blatantly categorize and set groups of humans apart from each other.
 
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