"On Edge" - Olympic Channel's docuseries featuring 6 teams from Ice Academy of Montreal

I don't really care about their personnal life. I want to see more of the construction of their program and how they navigate between the rules and their artistry. I want to learn more about them as skaters, and how an ice dance athlete do on a daily/weekly basis. Maybe they were not authorized to show this much. But the reality tv side of this show gets me bored.
 
I don't really care about their personnal life. I want to see more of the construction of their program and how they navigate between the rules and their artistry. I want to learn more about them as skaters, and how an ice dance athlete do on a daily/weekly basis. Maybe they were not authorized to show this much. But the reality tv side of this show gets me bored.
Yeah I kinda agree.
 
I don't really care about their personnal life. I want to see more of the construction of their program and how they navigate between the rules and their artistry. I want to learn more about them as skaters, and how an ice dance athlete do on a daily/weekly basis. Maybe they were not authorized to show this much. But the reality tv side of this show gets me bored.
I agree with you but I don’t think we uber skating fans are the target audience for this show. I suspect this is just the 2021 version of “up close and personal” fluff that is designed to create a connection with more casual viewers.
 
Ha at you describing that noise as music. :lol:
Ha at describing Ellish's music as noise. Could that be any more "get off my lawn"? :lol:

I am not a fan of her music mostly because I don't like that sort of breathy singing, but it's far from noise. I just think there are other singers who do that style better.

the program is going to play over extremely well with the target audience: the people who are going to be most active in sharing content across different platforms.
I thought the target audience was the judges though. I mean they are the most important audience if your goal is to get a good score.
 
I thought the target audience was the judges though. I mean they are the most important audience if your goal is to get a good score.
Please. You have an entire season of 'street dance rhythms' and you think the skaters or the people trying to make money for they sport are out there most concerned with what a panel of judges personally thinks?

Eilish is huge for the target viewing audience and the actual audience that will pour money into skating at lower levels, but sure, if you think Carmen and Don Quixote are gonna make pre-teens teens all over the world want to follow the sport...

Many of the skating choices these days are snoozy, slow, safe covers of hit songs. You think anyone likes them? :lol:
 
Please. You have an entire season of 'street dance rhythms' and you think the skaters or the people trying to make money for they sport are out there most concerned with what a panel of judges personally thinks?

Eilish is huge for the target viewing audience and the actual audience that will pour money into skating at lower levels, but sure, if you think Carmen and Don Quixote are gonna make pre-teens teens all over the world want to follow the sport...

Many of the skating choices these days are snoozy, slow, safe covers of hit songs. You think anyone likes them? :lol:
You are making a lot of assumptions here. (As usual) In my personal life, I listen to alternative music and punk rock. So, sure, because I think that you can't turn off the judges as they give the scores that could make the difference between an Olympic medal or no medal, obvious that means I must love slow, safe covers and Don Quixote. Sure. :lol:
 
You are making a lot of assumptions here. (As usual) In my personal life, I listen to alternative music and punk rock. So, sure, because I think that you can't turn off the judges as they give the scores that could make the difference between an Olympic medal or no medal, obvious that means I must love slow, safe covers and Don Quixote. Sure. :lol:
Oh here we go. I didn't make any assumptions about what music you listen to nor do I care. Your argument was that the skaters pick their music to impress the judges first and foremost.

Eilish is huge for the target viewing audience and the actual audience that will pour money into skating at lower levels, but sure, if you think Carmen and Don Quixote are gonna make pre-teens teens all over the world want to follow the sport...
You're not a pre-teen.

My argument remains that most skaters don't give a shit about the personal tastes of judges.
 
i like this 5th episode on finlandia, esp. for showing the tension for the spanish teams vying for the one olympic spot.

i have a wish that post-olys there will be a kind of director's cut of each of the episodes so we get to see more!
Yes, I'm looking forward to next week's episode!
 
i like this 5th episode on finlandia, esp. for showing the tension for the spanish teams vying for the one olympic spot.
Sara and Kirill got the role typically assigned to the eeeeevil Russians in NBC fluffs :lol:

i have a wish that post-olys there will be a kind of director's cut of each of the episodes so we get to see more!
Definitely!

Gabi seems like a lot of fun.
 
i like this 5th episode on finlandia, esp. for showing the tension for the spanish teams vying for the one olympic spot.

i have a wish that post-olys there will be a kind of director's cut of each of the episodes so we get to see more!
I'm really curious how the remaining episodes are going to be structured. We're almost halfway through the show (they announced that there would be twelve episodes total), and the Grand Prix season hasn't started yet. They have seven episodes left to showcase the Grand Prixs, Nationals, and Europeans. Plus, we're not even technically done with Finlandia since we're basically just in Finland, the competition isn't started yet. There needs to be an episode dedicated to Europeans, there's definitely going to be a US Championships episode, probably an episode taking during place during Spanish Championships where half the episode is in Spain and the other half covers the teams training during the December period. They're probably going to have to merge some of the Grand Prixs together, likely IdF and Rostelecom since there's only one featured team at each competition.

Basically, it's been really slow paced through the first five episodes, and there's still a lot of the season left.

Episode 6 - Remaining half of Finlandia, Skate America?
Episode 7 - Finish Skate America/Skate Canada
Episode 8 - Grand Prix Italy
Episode 9 - NHK Trophy
Episode 10 - IdF/Rostelecom
Episode 10 - Spanish Nationals/December training after Grand Prix Final Cancellation
Episode 11 - US Nationals, a dash of Canadian Nationals
Episode 12 - Europeans
 
I would be surprised if they covered all those events. IIRC, the "Tessa & Scott" show only went through to the GPF.
I think they'll have to go up to Europeans, otherwise it's essentially left on a cliffhanger in terms of whether Olivia and Adrian make the Olympic team. It would be a poor writing decision to build up this tension for them and have no payoff. For what it's worth, there are two weeks between when Europeans ends and episode 12 is set to air, which should be enough time to edit the episode, since they're only 10-15 minutes long. The Tessa and Scott Show had 45 minute episodes, and it wouldn't have made sense to continue all the way to Canadian Nationals, where V/M were all but guaranteed to win. Building up to Grand Prix Final was a good story decision since that's by far the biggest competition of the fall season.
 
I think they will show only the parts of the GP events that impact the skaters they are featuring. And they may consolidate some of the competitions because of that.
 
Is this really supposed to continue all season? I feel like IAM would see this as a potential distraction. Although there used to be a documentary called 16 Days of Glory that followed athletes at the Olympics and highlighted pivotal events, including the Battle of the Brians in 1988. So good. And more than 15 minutes.
 
Oh here we go. I didn't make any assumptions about what music you listen to nor do I care. Your argument was that the skaters pick their music to impress the judges first and foremost.


You're not a pre-teen.

My argument remains that most skaters don't give a shit about the personal tastes of judges.
I would think skaters do in fact choose their music to impress the judges. If not first and foremost, then it would weigh in to the music choice equally. That would only be logical.
 
I don't remember hearing that for when Tessa and Scott came back. But maybe I missed something. I do remember that Marie-France and Patrice already had an agreement with V/M from back around 2014, before Romain and P/C moved to Montreal, that they would coach them if they decided to come back to competition.
I thought they had already promised v/m if they wanted to come back they would coach them before P/C were big.
 
I thought they had already promised v/m if they wanted to come back they would coach them before P/C were big.
That’s what @RoseRed said. But P/C weren’t aware of that until 2016 (there’d really not have been any reason to bring it up in 2014, I doubt any of the parties thought that P/C would so quickly be in a position where V/M returning would be a threat).
 
So Calgary Olympics 16 Days of Glory is actually on the Olympics channel. Battle of the Brians is at this link and Battle of the Carmens is at this link. The BoB segment is about 25 minutes. It's a good dose of nostalgia. I was shocked at how much press was backstage. The interviews are all post-event, which makes sense. Similarly, I can't see I.AM being okay with the cameras being backstage before a big event, so I wouldn't think the On Edge crew would be interviewing them at nationals or Olympics. Fascinating how different the current approach is.... 16 Days is a classic, retrospective documentary while On Edge is documentary, but also there to drum up publicity and excitement for the upcoming Olympics.
 
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I love Romain Haguenaer in this show!

I can't see Episode 5 :wuzrobbed YouTube tells me that one unavailable video is hidded.
 
I can't see Episode 5 :wuzrobbed YouTube tells me that one unavailable video is hidded.
5th episode is available to watch here (videos are uploaded on this page weekly before the YT channel):
ETA: Aah, happy memories of walking around Helsinki! :)
 
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I can't find the question about licensing music. Skaters don't have to license music for competition purposes. But licenses would be required for copyrighted music to appear in anything commercial (i.e., selling a vid of the documentary, putting it in a tv show or movie).

But I think they substituted the Billie Ellish music in episode 4 so the video wouldn't get an automatic takedown from YouTube. i.e., better safe than sorry.
 
5th episode is available to watch here (videos are uploaded on this page weekly before the YT channel):

Thank you so much!

So far only Romain has managed to pronouce Kirill Khaliavin's name correctly :lol:
 
By far my favorite episode with P/C going into the thought process of their RD and how they relate to it. :cheer:

It always happens, where right as I'm in deep into the episode, it ends. These Olympic Channel people know how to keep you hooked and waiting for the next one. :lol:
 
Episode 6 is up:
They don't have any of the actual music the skaters use, but did keep Smart/Diaz's clashing swords :lol:
This episode is quite a bit longer than all the previous ones except for episode 1. I think that made for a better episode, and the highlight was definitely seeing how cute Olivia and Adrian's reaction is to scoring one point higher than Sara and Kiril. Even if you aren't fans of Smart/Diaz, it's heartwarming to see how happy they are and it's just adorable.

Also, this was the first mention of Sinitsina/Katsalapov in the whole series, but there is no mention of the fact that they beat Papadakis/Cizeron at 2020 Euros. S/K are just called "medal contenders" and Romain makes it clear that he wants his three main medal contenders (P/C, H/D, and C/B) to be far above them. No mention of G/P as other medal contenders. Curious to see how they will continue to portray S/K and G/P. S/K will probably get some focus at NHK Trophy where Madi and Evan were only like 0.5 points behind them in the rhythm dance, H/D and C/B haven't competed against G/P this season yet, they might not get mentioned at all.

We still have the issue of the general slow-paced nature of this show. Next week will almost certainly be an episode about Skate America, and since C/B and H/D are competing directly against each other, I think it will get a sole episode like Finlandia Trophy did. F-B/S and S/D were also at Skate America so they have four of the six featured couples. Skate Canada has 2 featured couples, GP Italy has 2 featured couples, NHK has 2, IdF has 1, and Rostelecom has 1. As such, it'll probably be easier to recap IdF and Rostelecom since there are fewer teams there, so they can all get grouped together.

Predictions:
Episode 7 - Skate America
Episode 8 - Skate Canada, GP Italy
Episode 9 - NHK, IdF, Rostelecom
Episode 10 - French and British Championships, primary focus on Spanish Nationals
Episode 11 - US Championships with a dash of Canadian Championships
Episode 12 - Europeans
 

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