LA County Fires / Palisades Fire

ANL got the evacuation orders, I’m packing bags, chargers, everything.
I am in the yellow in the map above
I was wondering if you were okay with these fires. Please stay safe and I hope you have a home to come back to!
They have one flashlight. 😅 These are professionals in their fifties. I don’t get it…
LOL. So am I. I have one flashlight and I'm not sure if the battery is still working in it, it's been that long since I last used it. I used to have a plug-in, rechargeable lantern but it stopped working, so I got rid of it. Stuff happens, especially when you go years between power outages at night. ;)
 
I was wondering if you were okay with these fires. Please stay safe and I hope you have a home to come back to!

LOL. So am I. I have one flashlight and I'm not sure if the battery is still working in it, it's been that long since I last used it. I used to have a plug-in, rechargeable lantern but it stopped working, so I got rid of it. Stuff happens, especially when you go years between power outages at night. ;)
I guess I’ve had family that had to evacuate multiple times and multiple years because of fires, but even so because of earthquake possibilities I always have had an emergency kit at home and a backpack in my car.

I looked up where my friends are and they are across the 101 freeway (yes we do use “the”) from the Sunset fire by about 10 blocks. So as long as the fire doesn’t cross, I think they’re OK.
 
Tara Lipinski's post just now ("... We finally have found out within the last hour that our home seems to be standing at the moment."):
 
I checked in with my two close friends who live out there and thankfully they are both okay tonight (they did mention that the ash and air quality is horrible right now) but this devastation is just awful and scary. I am so heartbroken for everyone who is being affected or has been affected by these fires. Sending lots of love and prayers to everyone out there. :fragile:

Stay safe @AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)! :(
 
Figure skater Sasha Giammarco and her family have lost their house in Pacific Palisades. :(
Plus apparently everything else, except their passports.

Short excerpts from Sasha's more extensive writing in their GoFundMe:

" ... We are extremely grateful that our family is safe, and our dogs are safe. ...

This is such an extremely difficult and stressful time, so we are grateful if you even consider helping us out to provide enough food and essentials for basic living. Absolutely anything helps, and we are truly thankful.❤️
Hopefully we can get to a better point because I would love to donate and give back to my community if I had the option. This is the city my sibling and I grew up in, almost all of our memories were around the Palisades.❤️

For the rest of our friends and community, we have you in our thoughts and prayers.❤️ "​


A member of Los Angeles FSC, Sasha competed in 2024-25 NQS in Senior Women and at Philippines Nationals in Dec Nov 2024.
In Nov 2023, she competed at Pacific Coast Sectionals in Junior Women.
 
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They have one flashlight. 😅 These are professionals in their fifties. I don’t get it…

Not quite in my 50s, but I just realized over dinner that we're lacking adequate flashlights. Told my husband that he needs to go buy 4 Maglites and extra batteries tomorrow.

We're watching what was coverage of the Hollywood Hills fire when they picked up footage of a home in Studio City fully engulfed and as they're live on air 1 or 2 homes not adjacent but nearby had spot fires break out in their yards from the embers because of the wind. 😱 This is all so horrendous.
 
Do the winds die down at all at night?
No. They actually tend to strengthen at night - the Wikipedia page about Santa Ana winds explains the phenomena -


If the Santa Anas are strong, the usual day-time sea breeze may not arise, or develop weak later in the day because the strong offshore desert winds oppose the on-shore sea breeze. At night, the Santa Ana Winds merge with the land breeze blowing from land to sea and strengthen because the inland desert cools more than the ocean due to differences in the heat capacity and because there is no competing sea breeze.[13][16]
 
There are hurricane strength winds? 😳 No wonder it’s spreading so fast 😳.
This is what happened in Lahaina where there was an actual hurricane moving south of Maui that sent wind gusts to near hurricane force to Lahaina. This turned the fire into a blowtorch which devastated Lahaina.

The winds in LA should die down by tomorrow which will slow the spread of the wildfires and allow air support in fighting the fires.
 
So I told her to get things together when they go back and she said we don’t have any light or candles or just for atmosphere. I told her to go buy flashlights and get together what they can.
What about the flashlight function on their phones?
 

Pics and articles about the fires; LA Times has suspended their pay wall on articles about the fires as you can see in the link above.
 
I can't remember if this has been posted or not, but the Mayor of LA was warned by their Fire Chief last month that the $17.6 million budget cut would "severely limit" the department's capacity to prepare, train and respond to any major event such as an earthquake, wildfire, hazmat incident, etc. My heart breaks for the citizens who have lost their homes and especially the families of the 5 known fatalities. This could have been prevented or at least curtailed.

 
I can't remember if this has been posted or not, but the Mayor of LA was warned by their Fire Chief last month that the $17.6 million budget cut would "severely limit" the department's capacity to prepare, train and respond to any major event such as an earthquake, wildfire, hazmat incident, etc. My heart breaks for the citizens who have lost their homes and especially the families of the 5 known fatalities. This could have been prevented or at least curtailed.

While the budget cut certainly does not look good in hindsight, I think it's quite a leap to assert that this event or its consequences could have been curtailed, much less prevented. It's hard to imagine how any amount of additional money could have helped battle these fires given the conditions. Money would not have prevented the atmospheric river that fueled grass growth last year, or the drought this year that turned that grass into tinder, or the hurricane-force wins that fanned the flames of these fires. But you know what might have made a difference? Serious action on reducing the greenhouse gas emissions that are fueling climate change and the resulting extreme weather conditions. Of course, we've been kicking that can down the road for years and seem quite content to continue to do so, so here we are. We continue to fiddle while our planet burns.
 
While the budget cut certainly does not look good in hindsight, I think it's quite a leap to assert that this event or its consequences could have been curtailed, much less prevented. It's hard to imagine how any amount of additional money could have helped battle these fires given the conditions. Money would not have prevented the atmospheric river that fueled grass growth last year, or the drought this year that turned that grass into tinder, or the hurricane-force wins that fanned the flames of these fires. But you know what might have made a difference? Serious action on reducing the greenhouse gas emissions that are fueling climate change and the resulting extreme weather conditions. Of course, we've been kicking that can down the road for years and seem quite content to continue to do so, so here we are. We continue to fiddle while our planet burns.
I don't know that we want this thread to go too far into PI, but I'll bite since you started it... To blame it on climate change is utter bullshit. There is ZERO reason the water tanks & hydrants were running dry 2 days ago when California did indeed experience higher-than-average rainfall for the last meteorological year, which ended just this past September. That water should have been stored in the reservoirs that the state voted to build 10 years ago which have never been built due to environmental activists. It has been THIRTY years since a water reservoir was built in southern California yet the population of the area has continued to grow unabated. Or how about the lack of willingness to clear out the dead chaparral and undergrowth - an obvious fire mitigation policy that was clearly disregarded when you look at some of the photos pre-fire with flames licking up hillsides covered with vegetation.

The Santa Anas have existed in LA for thousands of years, awful fires have always broken out. The more man encroaches into the hills & canyons that surround the LA basin, the more likely these fires will have a devastating impact on people living there. One of the most devastated areas of Pacific Palisades has just ONE road of ingress/egress and it was so thoroughly congested when the fire struck on Tuesday that people had to abandon their cars & flee on foot from the fire as it spread. Now, let me ask you, why would any city planning department approve a residential development in an area that is so difficult to access that only ONE road can be built for the proposed 3000-4000 new residents? That is absolute MADNESS and unless you can explain to me how climate change affected the logic of the city planners & council who signed off on the project, you can sit your ass down about climate change being the reason for this tragedy.
 

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