I am also impressed, I thought the Queen was the forgiving one and Charles a bitter old man who was out for revenge. (I thought he refused Harry's phone calls?) You know, the whole Diana-story made him look so bad, so cold and selfish. But it seems that this was only mirroring one side of his personality. Is Andrew out of the succession line? Wouldn't this make Harry No 4? And with all these pandemics, maybe Harry ist much more important than he himself ever expected.
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I think any father loves their kids. Usually the true story is not in the press.
A friend of mines mom met Prince Charles and said he was a nice man. A flawed man certainly his marriage to Diana was a disaster and he shouldn’t have married a 19 year old. But at the end of it they were both adults. they both cheated and they both probably had their issues.
The worst part was when they both as adults did interview describing for all to see their marriage problems. It was unfair to their children especially.
Which is why I don’t care for Meghan and Harry’s complaining interviews describing their relationship problems with the royal family.
Especially when they cut of her father for the same thing.
Of course Charles loves his son he walked Meghan down the aisle so I doubt he didn’t want to try to welcome her.
He loves his son and if son wants life overseas sure
but does this mean he wants his son monetizing their titles no.
I heard it was William who made that offer.
Harry and Meghan took themselves out. They didn’t want to play the supporting rule which is what their role was always going to be. Which is fine. No I don’t think Charles actions indicate public role for Harry right now.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if laws come into play about potentially regents etc living in UK unless on state business.
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Yesterday Twitter was analyzing every last aspect of their body language during the walk, looking for flaws. And William's and Kate's too. Let's face it, some people criticize them (and also William and Kate) just for existing.
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Andrew and Harry are both still in, Andrew is after Harry. It’s William, George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry, Archie, Lili, Andrew. So Harry is 5th and Andrew 8th.
Must be strange to be born as 2nd and then slide way down….
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I can see the pros and cons of bringing the kids over for the next week or however long Harry & Meghan remain in the UK post-funeral. On the one hand, yes, putting the kids on a transatlantic flight without a parent would be a huge challenge - if they were flying commercial. But, they're not, so it's a much more manageable proposition, even if it is still not something anyone would relish or look forward to. On the other hand, they were only planning on being away from home one week and both they and the kids must miss each other. I can see them wanting to bring the kids over, especially if there has been even a slight thawing of relations. There will be private gatherings, I'm sure, and opportunities for Archie and Lilibet to interact with their cousins (not just their first cousins, but the rest of them as well).
My guess is we will see the following: Savannah Phillips (age 11), Isla Phillips (age 10), George (age 9), Mia Tindall (age 8), and Charlotte (age 7). IIRC, those are the five who attended the remembrance service for Philip last spring.
The other great-grandchildren (and step-great grandchild) are all considerably younger: Wolfie Mapelli Mozzi (age 5 or 6), Louis (age 4), Lena Tindall (age 4), Archie (age 3), August Brooksbank (age 1), Lucas Tindall (age 1), Lilibet (age 1), and Sienna Mapelli Mozzi (turns 1 on Sunday).
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Someone would be appointed as Regent until he or she hit her majority (I believe 18). Probably one of the uncles.
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Pretty sure it would be Catherine, but I could be wrong. Certainly will NOT be Andrew. Probably not Harry unless he moves back to the UK permanently.
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When Princess Elizabeth became Queen, a Regency Act was created stating that The Duke of Edinburgh would act as Regent if the Queen passed before Charles was of age.
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Even if Harry were to move back to England, I doubt if William would allow him to be Regent and would most probably figure out how to pre-empt that, given the enmity between them.
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I agree. I think Queen Catherine would outrank anyone else to become Regent.
IIRC, the last time there was a minor proclaimed monarch was Edward VI -- son of Henry VIII. His first regent was his uncle -- and it did not end well (for the uncle -- who was beheaded.) A mother hasn't served as regent since the 1320s -- that ended a little better (he wasn't a good regent; her son -- Edward III -- deposed her, but she was well treated)
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Yes, and there was an interesting depiction of Edward VI's reign and his regent on the recent STARZ series Becoming Elizabeth.
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Henry VI mother was regent, right? And a fierce one at that during the War of the Roses. Shakespeare got 2 plays out of it.
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Not to rehash everything, but IIRC they wanted to have a supporting role, and wanted to be basically part-time royals. They were denied, so due to that took themselves out.
I've also heard that Charles is a nice man, and that Camilla is one of the friendliest royals (and that the people who meet her adore her). Since we had so long hearing about all the negatives of them, I think that unless people meet them directly and have those positive experiences, they're going to think negatively about them, which unfortunately is the general population.
My understanding is Phillip being regent was an exception and Margaret went to parliament and said she wanted it this way. I don’t see Harry doing the same:
But given how well the Princess of Wales is regarded by the public and the fact that Harry moved out and all the feelings there I wouldn’t be surprised if the Princess gets chosen
But given how well the Princess of Wales is regarded by the public and the fact that Harry moved out and all the feelings there I wouldn’t be surprised if the Princess gets chosen
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I do think it’s generally a bad idea to name anyone a regent who themselves is in the line of succession. Or maybe I have Richard III and the princes in the tower on my mind. That and a ton of Chinese royal-themed palace dramas.
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I think it's presumptive to start naming a Regent when we have no indication that Charles or William are in ill health. 
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Yeah. The chances of a regency becoming necessary seem quite low. Charles will probably reign for 10-15 years and by then George would be an adult anyway (he's already 9). The likelihood of both Charles and William dying during the next 9 years isn't zero but it's probably not much higher than that.
I saw this video on Twitter of Harry talking about why he and Meghan left England. This has probably been posted here in the past, but I hadn't seen it yet. Pretty sobering hearing his perspective on things, and I can totally understand why he feels the way he does. He brought up a few angles I hadn't thought about before. Just made me feel again that the introduction of Meghan to the royal family was a litmus test of sorts that they failed entirely.
All the kudos and honors currently being paid to the Queen are a pleasant acknowledgment of her personal strength and character, but I still suspect the monarchy may end sooner rather than later.
I saw this video on Twitter of Harry talking about why he and Meghan left England. This has probably been posted here in the past, but I hadn't seen it yet. Pretty sobering hearing his perspective on things, and I can totally understand why he feels the way he does. He brought up a few angles I hadn't thought about before. Just made me feel again that the introduction of Meghan to the royal family was a litmus test of sorts that they failed entirely.
All the kudos and honors currently being paid to the Queen are a pleasant acknowledgment of her personal strength and character, but I still suspect the monarchy may end sooner rather than later.
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There has been a definite link between age of parents death and one's death - referred to inherited longevity. Given that Queen Elizabeth was 96 and Prince Phillip was 99 (I think) at time of their respective death, and King Charles is in his early 70's, I think it's somewhat likely he will rule for 18 or more years. Nothing is certain, but there certainly are studies that confirm the inherited longevity premise.
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There's no way a commoner would be chosen as regent imo. Or a female in our still-paternal society.
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Prince Harry and Andrew Uniform Ruling Is 'Deplorable Double Standards'
Prince Harry has been banned from wearing his military uniform to Queen Elizabeth II's funeral while disgraced Prince Andrew will wear his at a vigil.www.newsweek.com
It's still unsourced rumor.
I am surprised that Newsweek would publish something like this, but I suppose standards have fallen.
I don't have a problem with them saying only working royals (who have active, current military patronages) are wearing uniforms. You can justify that decision. But I think it is a HUGE mistake to make an exception for Andrew and not for Harry, the optics of that are just terrible.
I expect this is some sort of compromise (can you imagine the negotiations behind the scenes???) ... if the Queen's four children do a "vigil of the princes" during the lying in state in London like they did in Edinburgh and all four are in uniform for this brief appearance (I think it's only 15-20 minutes), this allows Andrew to wear his uniform at a time when Harry won't be present. For the funeral procession (there will be two, one when the coffin is moved from Buckingham Palace to lie in state at Westminster Hall, and then again the day of the funeral from Westminster Hall to the Abbey) only working members of the royal family will be in uniform. I expect all of the Queen's children and grandsons, at least, to walk in that, along with Princess Anne's husband and other extended members of the royal family (and maybe granddaughters? traditionally it is only men, but Anne has participated in the processions for the Queen Mother and Prince Philip, so maybe the granddaughters will want to walk, too? And I think they should be allowed to, if they want to. But they didn't for Philip, so who knows?).
I expect this is some sort of compromise (can you imagine the negotiations behind the scenes???) ... if the Queen's four children do a "vigil of the princes" during the lying in state in London like they did in Edinburgh and all four are in uniform for this brief appearance (I think it's only 15-20 minutes), this allows Andrew to wear his uniform at a time when Harry won't be present. For the funeral procession (there will be two, one when the coffin is moved from Buckingham Palace to lie in state at Westminster Hall, and then again the day of the funeral from Westminster Hall to the Abbey) only working members of the royal family will be in uniform. I expect all of the Queen's children and grandsons, at least, to walk in that, along with Princess Anne's husband and other extended members of the royal family (and maybe granddaughters? traditionally it is only men, but Anne has participated in the processions for the Queen Mother and Prince Philip, so maybe the granddaughters will want to walk, too? And I think they should be allowed to, if they want to. But they didn't for Philip, so who knows?).
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Yeah it seems as though Andrew made a pitch because it is his mom that an exception should be made. Harry probably didn’t dare.
I could see Princess Anne having been a terrific regent, she’s too old now though.
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I'm not. Newsweek has become a total rag.
I don't think the issue of gender would be that big an issue now -- especially since monarchs (and regents) would have a lot less power than they used to have. I recall reading an account of the abdication crisis stating that it was proposed that Edward should not be succeeded by the next in line, but by another brother .... who had a son. This was rejected, and he was succeeded by the next in line ... and followed by that next in line's daughter.
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Harry has apparently put out a statement regarding his lack of military dress...thank you Harry. I can't link on my phone. He says his military service is not reflected by a uniform and to please save your thoughts for Her Majesty, not him.
This is paraphrased.
This is paraphrased.
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Me too!
Yes. I am somewhat mystified by people saying this was sudden and unexpected. She was bowing out of appearances for health reasons including ones at her own Jubilee! Just because she was able to make a good show for one brief appearance recently doesn't mean she was in good health.
But that's not the last time we had a Prince Regent. George IV was Prince of Wales and became Prince Regent in 1811 until his father (the actual King) died in 1820 and he became King. I can't imagine Charles III becoming mad and needing William to take over though.
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