Just call me Harry. (Everything Harry & Meghan)

[clairecloutier]

A new interview/profile of Meghan in New York magazine:

Meghan of Montecito

She’s left the Firm behind. Harry’s found a polo team in Santa Barbara. The kids are doing great. Now she’s ready for her own next act.

www.thecut.com

 

[Winnipeg]

Are they continually bringing up their royal past to earn a living? Can they put it behind them and move on?

 

[marbri]

Are they continually bringing up their royal past to earn a living? Can they put it behind them and move on?

The reality is without their royal past there isn't much of interest?

This is where I stopped reading:
"She stands and smiles with the perfect level of warmth, the gleam of her teeth rivaled only by the shininess of her blowout. "

 

[puglover]

Meghan is beautiful, the camera loves her, and she certainly has access to some very interesting women. Serena Williams being huge example number one. I would personally rather hear about Serena and her struggles and experiences than more about Meghan's issues with being royal. If Meghan could get over herself she could maybe position herself as the new Oprah, providing a platform for others to tell their stories. That could be far more interesting.

 

[overedge]

Isn't that what she's trying to do with her podcast? (ads for which keep popping up on my YouTube feed, even though I would sooner stick my head under water for an hour than listen to it)

 

[overedge]

The reality is without their royal past there isn't much of interest?

This is where I stopped reading:
"She stands and smiles with the perfect level of warmth, the gleam of her teeth rivaled only by the shininess of her blowout. "

Plus, nothing says "I relate to ordinary people and want to help them live better lives" better than posing for a glamour photograph in a ballgown

 

[puglover]

Isn't that what she's trying to do with her podcast? (ads for which keep popping up on my YouTube feed, even though I would sooner stick my head under water for an hour than listen to it)

I guess, but what I heard seemed to focus far more on Meghan's treatment than Serena's. Just my opinion, but Serena is the star here with amazing talent and I would much rather hear her stories, which the Duchess of Sussex's podcast seemed to miss.

 

[MacMadame]

Personally, I thought the author of the piece was pretty weird and injected her weirdness into the entire piece.

 

[manhn]

I listen to podcasts during my runs and hers has been added. Can’t wait to listen to Mariah Carey!

The intro is long but when Serena is interviewed, it’s about Serena. Lots of podcasts involve the host chit chatting with their co-hosts or whomever before they introduce the guest or topic or whatever.

 

[Husky]

Personally, I thought the author of the piece was pretty weird and injected her weirdness into the entire piece.

I am happy that this writing style is not common. I have never read an article like this before and thought: maye it's a cultural thing. You know what it reminds me of? A marketing text for a new high-profile fragrance.

BTW looks like some South-Africans are upset about the Mandela reference. They created a hashtag #VoetsekMeghan (Go away Meghan).

 

[taf2002]

BTW looks like some South-Africans are upset about the Mandela reference. They created a hashtag #VoetsekMeghan (Go away Meghan).

Yes, that was a strange comment from her.

 

[Husky]

DailyMail says it's not true. They have a personal feud with her and check everything she says.

Mystery over Meghan's Mandela claims as star insists he NEVER met her

EXCLUSIVE: Dr John Kani believes Meghan has made 'a faux pas' after she used an interview to suggest her royal wedding sparked celebrations in South Africa reminiscent of Mandela's release.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Husky]

Ahhh, I think this is the interaction she meant. She spiced it up a bit:

Video of the encouter with the composer of The Lion King: "Lebo M can be heard saying: 'Everyone in South Africa has heard of Meghan Markle' when they met at the movie premiere".

South African composer doesn't remember discussing Mandela with Meghan

EXCLUSIVE: Lebohang Morake, whose professional name is 'Lebo M', said he spoke to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex for 'less than a minute' at the West End launch of the film in 2019.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[MacMadame]

You know what it reminds me of? A marketing text for a new high-profile fragrance.

That's a perfect description!

 

[MsZem]

It reminded me of 1950s-style tabloid journalism, or perhaps the time IceAlisa posted highlights from the Joyce Carol Oates figure skating novel.

I lasted about two paragraphs.

 

[MacMadame]

It reminded me of 1950s-style tabloid journalism, or perhaps the time IceAlisa posted highlights from the Joyce Carol Oates figure skating novel.

I lasted about two paragraphs.

Oh, wasn't there a figure skating "journalist" who used to write like that?

 

[clairecloutier]

Yeah, I felt that the author was very much writing the piece with the knowledge that there are maybe 3 major audiences when it comes to Meghan: 1) The haters, who think she's a conniving phony, 2) The fans, and 3) Those who are neutral/positive, and interested in her as a cultural icon. I felt like the author wrote very carefully, making sure to throw bones/bits to each audience, knowing that all of them would be reading, and wanting to remain "neutral" in her journalistic viewpoint.

 

[Husky]

I finally read through the whole thing (had only read the first 1/3 at first), had a look at the author's twitter account, and think now that it's tongue in cheek with some sarcasm hidden esp. the last sentence. But I am no native speaker.

 

[once_upon]

I dont want to do thread drift in the RIP Queen thread, so here are my thoughts. Whatever Meghan and Harry decide what to do, it will be Meghan's fault.

I realize that Archie and Lizabet are in the States. There are many people who believe young children should not be subjected to funerals as it is traumatic. I am not one of them, however I respect others thoughts/actions.

As a pediatric nurse who attended many funerals for children I cared for, I saw families who dealt with these decisions. Some families felt it was extremely important to have children (cousins, siblings, etc) there, some felt it was extremely important to protect the children.

I myself was criticized for having our 2 year old at his great grandmothers funeral. And I mean horrible things said to me.

We know that Diana's funeral AND the very public and probably the fact that Harry was required to follow certain protocol (like walking behind his mother's casket in full view of the world) affected him deeply. That experience will color his view on how he wants his children to be involved in the very, very public protocols.

Whatever they choose to do, we know Meghan will bear the greatest blame/hatred for it.

 

[miffy]

Very young royals don’t seem to go to funerals. I’d be surprised if any of the younger children go. They didn’t go to Prince Philip’s. The youngest one there was Edward’s son James, who was probably around 13 then.

 

[becca]

I dont want to do thread drift in the RIP Queen thread, so here are my thoughts. Whatever Meghan and Harry decide what to do, it will be Meghan's fault.

I realize that Archie and Lizabet are in the States. There are many people who believe young children should not be subjected to funerals as it is traumatic. I am not one of them, however I respect others thoughts/actions.

As a pediatric nurse who attended many funerals for children I cared for, I saw families who dealt with these decisions. Some families felt it was extremely important to have children (cousins, siblings, etc) there, some felt it was extremely important to protect the children.

I myself was criticized for having our 2 year old at his great grandmothers funeral. And I mean horrible things said to me.

We know that Diana's funeral AND the very public and probably the fact that Harry was required to follow certain protocol (like walking behind his mother's casket in full view of the world) affected him deeply. That experience will color his view on how he wants his children to be involved in the very, very public protocols.

Whatever they choose to do, we know Meghan will bear the greatest blame/hatred for it.

I don’t think funerals are bad things for kids to attend at all because well death is a part of life kids need to learn about.

But a royal funeral is a completely different beast and I don’t blame them from not having very young royals attend.

Prince Harry was older and a mother is different than a great Grandparent.

I do wonder if Prince George may attend the Queens

 

[MLIS]

The British royals typically don’t bring young children to ceremonial events, although there were several of the older great-grandchildren at the memorial service for Philip (not his funeral, but the larger service held more recently, which was more like a regular church service). I would think Archie and Lilibet would still be considered too young (Louis, the Cambridges’ youngest, was not at the service for Philip and he’s older than Archie). I wouldn’t be shocked to see George attend as part of the direct line of succession, he is starting to take on royal duties, but I would be surprised to see him walk in the procession behind the coffin … yes, William and Harry did for their mother, but they were older and it was a different time. I don’t see William putting him through that.

I don’t imagine any of the younger children will attend. You’re right, though, that Meghan in particular will be criticized whatever she does. Once_upon was criticized for bringing her young child to a family funeral. I got yelled at for NOT bringing my young child to her grandmother’s funeral, an event we knew she would find upsetting and confusing. You can’t win, and that’s true of Meghan more than most.

 

[becca]

The British royals typically don’t bring young children to ceremonial events, although there were several of the older great-grandchildren at the memorial service for Philip (not his funeral, but the larger service held more recently, which was more like a regular church service). I would think Archie and Lilibet would still be considered too young (Louis, the Cambridges’ youngest, was not at the service for Philip and he’s older than Archie). I wouldn’t be shocked to see George attend as part of the direct line of succession, he is starting to take on royal duties, but I would be surprised to see him walk in the procession behind the coffin … yes, William and Harry did for their mother, but they were older and it was a different time. I don’t see William putting him through that.

I don’t imagine any of the younger children will attend. You’re right, though, that Meghan in particular will be criticized whatever she does. Once_upon was criticized for bringing her young child to a family funeral. I got yelled at for NOT bringing my young child to her grandmother’s funeral, an event we knew she would find upsetting and confusing. You can’t win, and that’s true of Meghan more than most.

I think if George does walk behind the coffin it’s really not as big of a deal as a child walking behind their mom. The Queen was 96 years old they were all prepared.

 

[MLIS]

I think if George does walk behind the coffin it’s really not as big of a deal as a child walking behind their mom. The Queen was 96 years old they were all prepared.

True, but it’s also a long, stressful walk with a lot of scrutiny. The way William and Kate have shielded their children until now makes me think it unlikely they would make him do it. There will be plenty of mourners from multiple generations to follow the coffin. No need for an eight year old to do it.

 

[becca]

True, but it’s also a long, stressful walk with a lot of scrutiny. The way William and Kate have shielded their children until now makes me think it unlikely they would make him do it. There will be plenty of mourners from multiple generations to follow the coffin. No need for an eight year old to do it.

Absolutely true what ever they decide. He is eight I wouldn’t be surprised if he is at the funeral in some capacity he was at Prince Phillips memorial.

It’s not the same scenario as Princess Diana. I am sure Kate and William were preparing George for the idea. Diana had so much life left

 

[Parsley Sage]

I would think that Prince George (who just turned 9) and possibly the daughters of Peter Phillips would be the only great grandchildren present at the funeral.

 

[Mugs]

I think most rational people would understand that having two children under the age of four travel twelve plus hours on a transatlantic flight without either parent would, in and of itself, be traumatic for the children (even if a trusted nanny or M's mother travelled with them). And why drag two very young children to the funeral of a great grandmother they never had a close relationship with? With all the other family drama and stress swirling around, hopefully they leave the kiddos home to enjoy their normal routines. JMO.

I'm curious to see what children do attend the funeral. I think George definitely will, and quite possibly Charlotte. I'm not sure how old Zara's children are but if they're mature enough will probably also attend.

 

[ballettmaus]

I think most rational people would understand that having two children under the age of four travel twelve plus hours on a transatlantic flight without either parent would, in and of itself, be traumatic for the children (even if a trusted nanny or M's mother travelled with them). And why drag two very young children to the funeral of a great grandmother they never had a close relationship with? With all the other family drama and stress swirling around, hopefully they leave the kiddos home to enjoy their normal routines. JMO.

Plus, we've all seen how difficult it was for Louis to sit through the jubilee celebrations. I don't think anyone wants that at or for a funeral (where the whole world is watching). I feel like having to spend energy on keeping your child calm takes away from the ability to grieve and remember.

Children deal with loss in their own way anyway, so I generally think it's fine if children as young as Archie and Lili (and Louis) don't attend a funeral.

 

[millyskate]

Literally nobody has been criticising Meghan for not going to Scotland and I can't imagine anyone will criticize their choice regarding children attending the funeral or not aside from maybe the daily mail.
Charles extended an olive branch to them in his opening speech and they turned up with Kate and William to meet crowds where they were greeted well by the public.

There's no reason to generate unnecessary drama imo. Harry and Meghan don't get criticised when they do neutral things.

 

[skategal]

Now that he is King, I think Charles may not be as hard-nosed towards Harry as some expected.

He made a point to say that he loved Harry and Meghan in his speech and I’m sure he was behind William, Kate, Harry and Meghan appearing together as a united front.

I’m impressed.