What is Italy doing right produce so many interesting pair teams?
Filippo: For sure, the absence of Russian pairs this year has helped all those countries that usually don't stand out so much - but it wasn't so obvious [to be able to take advantage of it]: you have to be ready at the right moment, because there are many other good pairs. What is happening with the Italian movement is that we started to like pairs more as a discipline, but also Ondřej brought a big plus, when he retired and started coaching. He is really able to convey his passion, and his team with Franca Bianconi is growing a great pairs school - of which we are one of the pillars.
Niccolò: The country should also help. In Russia, the ice is paid for by the country, and coaches by the federation. In Northern Italy, even if we are professional skaters, we still have to pay for everything, and we'll keep doing it till the end of our careers. If we decide to go to a competition, we have to finance ourselves and our coach. In some other countries it's even worse, because you also have to pay the coach for every working day that he misses to come with you.
It's clear that there are a lot of shortcomings, but it doesn't look like anyone is working to fix them. Everyone always complains that there is no money: let's find it, let's do something! If you always keep doing the same things, you can't complain if the result doesn't change.
More Italian skating news! An interview with Conti/Maccii from Absolute Skating:
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They talk about quite a few things here--definitely worth a read. Especially now that they are poised to perhaps become European champions! Also, from this interview, it sounds like they are off-ice partners as well.
ETA: Of note--in the paragraph below, there is some discussion of funding, which was also touched upon in a recent Absolute Skating interview with Deniss Vasiljevs (see OES News thread).
That's odd, I thought all Italian skaters did this as a matter of course.Also, Conti and Macii are not (yet) in an armed force group unlike Grassl (police agent), Rizzo (prison guard), Frangipani (police agent), Ghilardi/Ambrosini (both prison guards), Guignard/Fabbri (prison guards), Gutmann (police), Beccari (prison guard) and Guarise (police agent). Being enrolled in police/military group brings with that the monthly salary attached to the position (which is not anything huge but it is still something).
I'll say it.
If he really thinks that Eteri wasn't in on the doping he's a moron. Is he hoping for the same training if he does think Eteri was in on the doping? Should we be asking him about his vitamins today?
IMHO, he's a dope but not on dope. YMMV.Well he's not on yet.
Dude, when you're in a hole, stop digging. That's crowd's reaction to Daniel was tellingMore from Grassl
Daniel Grassl: “I made the best decision that could be made for my career: I went to the academy of Eteri Tutberidze, because she is one of the best coaches in the world.”Italian figure skater Daniel Grassl, in an interview after a short program at the European Championships, explained the transition to the team of Eteri Tutberidze and commented on his performance in the short program.fs-gossips.com
And they didn't show his coaches when he was announced and his name was on screen
There are so many coaches listed under "former coaches" in his bio that the name after Olga Ganicheva isn't even full
That’s not uncommon. 4 from the same camp and then 2 from the same camp. See most Montreal ice dance profiles, where they list almost the entire IAM teams in some cases.There are so many coaches listed under "former coaches" in his bio that the name after Olga Ganicheva isn't even full
Not so add - happy to add some context. These are called "police sports groups" or "military sports group".That's odd, I thought all Italian skaters did this as a matter of course.
Also the number of spots per sports are already pre-determined and they are often subject of behind the scenes negotiations between federations (hence, as you said, the need of the help of the federation).Not so add - happy to add some context. These are called "police sports groups" or "military sports group".
Athletes can join the police/army by applying to public tenders (not sure of to translate this one), meaning public recruitment processes, where you are evaluated by certain criterias and eventually a ranking is established. Depending how many spots are available in this public tender, you might need to end up first/top 5 or 10 etc. to join.
Criterias vary for each police/army group, but it's usually a mix of sports achievements you had so far, and the potential to grow that you have in the future (also based on certain criterias).
From what I heard, it's not that easy to join these groups, you probably need help from the federation or at least your team as well, plus, these public tenders only happen once in a while. So it could be once a year, once every 2 years etc.
I know many skaters had to try multiple times before getting in.
Hope this helped!
Kostner joined Fiamme Azzurre in 2005. Faiella/Scali were enrolled by Police in 2009.Kostner was before Faiella?
How naive can you get?On her role in Valieva's case: "Ci sono dei sospetti. Però, signori, quanti sospetti abbiamo in ogni campo? Sospettato non significa colpevole. Il giorno in cui dovesse arrivare una pronuncia, è evidente come la signora Tutberidze non potrà più allenare nessuno e non potrà più entrare in una pista di ghiaccio, quindi il problema non si porrà”. = "There are some suspects. But, how many suspicions do we have in each field? Suspected doesn't mean guilty. The day a ruling arrives, it is evident that Mrs. Tutberidze will no longer be able to train anyone and she will no longer be able to enter an ice rink, so the problem will not arise”